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Originally Posted by senior citizen

Very often some of the debaters on this forum remind me of Roman Catholic "apologists" such as one cousin we have in N.J. who totally denies any clergy abuse of children ever occurred. She totally believes the kids were all making it up. Now, we were all raised Roman Catholic, however, after reading dozens of books....many written by priests themselves who had left their orders during the height of the scandal, any intelligent person can only come to the conclusion that it did happen......based on the recollections of what went on in the seminaries....who looked the other way, how these pedophile priests got away with it all, by befriending fatherless boys.......not just in our country, but in Europe, Mexico and elsewhere..........

The Boston Globe did great investigative work on their "local cases" and guess where many of those pedophile priests were sent? To Vermont of course. This state is often misrepresented as a bunch of yokels, when in fact, it is comprised of a myriad of creative, free thinking, intelligent people.....who have clear insight into what really is going on in a given situation .

Unless one has their head in the sand, there is some truth to every rumor or innuendo. Apologists will deny everything and anything that has a sordid root. When we read this in the newspaper earlier June.......I couldn't believe this guy. See below:

""Archbishop Robert J. Carlson claimed to be uncertain that he knew sexual abuse of a child by a priest constituted a crime when he was auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, according to a deposition released Monday (June 9).

During the deposition taken last month, attorney Jeff Anderson asked Carlson whether he knew it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a child.

"I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not," Carlson replied. "I understand today it’s a crime."

Anderson went on to ask Carlson whether he knew in 1984, when he was an auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, that it was crime for a priest to engage in sex with a child.

"I’m not sure if I did or didn’t," Carlson said.

Yet according to documents released Monday (June 9) by the law firm Jeff Anderson & Associates in St. Paul, Carlson showed clear knowledge that sexual abuse was a crime when discussing incidents with church officials during his time in Minnesota.

In a 1984 document, for example, Carlson wrote to the then-archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis — John R. Roach — about one victim of sexual abuse and mentioned that the statute of limitations for filing a claim would not expire for more than two years. He also wrote that the parents of the victim were considering reporting the incident to the police.""

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It's the same thing with the tidbits read in "Leisureville" or else intuitively "felt" within a certain atmosphere of a place..........very difficult to believe that it is not going on.............no matter what all the apologists claim.

To each his own, but truly, they should keep it private. Even T.O.T.V. was advertising a motel room with a pole dancing pole........picture of it right next to the bed............I reported that and whoosh, it disappeared. Kind of suspicious goings on. It was a very very shabby looking motel room.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it all out. Obviously society has changed since we were "courting" however, people shouldn't flaunt their private lives in the squares.........and just maybe shouldn't become inebriated in the squares.


P.S. MANY THANKS TO ALL THOSE WHO P.M.'D ME.........APPRECIATE IT.








　

TOTV didn't advertise the hotel room.....it was a random ad from Google I believe, that popped up. Many of the ads come up as a result of searches done by posters.

Apologist? Don't think so. There are scandals all over this country, the world. Leisureville just took something and ran with it. Honestly, I can't agree with your logic senior. In 8 years, the friends I've made are absolutely not like people portrayed in Leisureville and are not at all like the two who threw good judgment out the window that night on the square.

There are immoral priests, ministers, youth pastors, teachers. They need to be dealt with by the authorities, and if not and one feels strongly about helping to resolve these horrific events, then get involved in some way to get justice.

The Villages is a community of over 100,000 residents and whether you or anyone else believes it or not, their lives are lived with little drama or notariaty.

Why is the negative more appealing I wonder?