In my book they did win, they won a huge amount of respect. The rest of the world has been playing this game for hundreds of years, we are new to it! Great bunch of guys with real heart.
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A people free to choose will always choose peace. 
Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak
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