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Originally Posted by CFrance
You're welcome. But I stand by my statement that many times on here the poor have been either accused of being lazy or the statement has been made that any poor person could pull himself up out of poverty if he would only work hard enough. And that is what I object to. Even in this thread alone, see posts 31 and 36, and the suggestion of post 41.
There is such a thing as generational poverty. And I do not believe that the majority of the poor are gaming the system.
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Allow me to bore you a bit. You mention generational poverty and there is a study done at Yale which concludes on generational poverty....
"In summary, these points are made from this chapter:
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Education is key in getting out and
staying out of generational poverty
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Being in poverty is rarely about
a lack of intelligence or ability
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Individuals stay in poverty because t
hey do not see "choice", or if they
do, they do not know how to access proper resources or people to get
them to the point of actually
"choosing" to organize themselves,
complete assignments, behave respectfully, plan for the future, and
communicate in conventional register.
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Schools are really the only places
where students can learn about the
choices and rules of the middle class or have access to people who
are willing and able to help them."
http://www.yale.edu/21c/arkansas/pdf/payne_ch4.pdf
On the thread concerning INCOME EQUALITY there is a discussion on
"redistribution of wealth" which I oppose on so many levels, but as you mention here...it is either the poor do not want to work, OR the rich are keeping them down.
In that thread on raising the minimum wage and redistributing the wealth, I tried with no success to make the point that instead of bashing the rich, maligning the poor, why are we not addressing the real problem....education.
This link which I left there and doubt anyone read makes a valid and current point that unemployment and education are tied together intrinsically.
"Indeed, the unemployment rate confirms that, tracking almost exactly to education. Those without a high school degree, for example, had an 11 percent unemployment rate in 2013. Those with BAs, meanwhile, had just a 4 percent unemployment rate."
The real reason for income inequality - Opinion - The Boston Globe
"The upshot: If you don’t have skills, it’s tough to find work."
In addition, I linked to the below......AND THIS IS FROM TODAYS NEWS although you would be hard pressed to find it.
"Senators have introduced two bills in the past few weeks that could make make it easier for students to pay for college and manage debt. Both bills would trim red tape from some frustrating features of the federal financial aid system. And both bills are bipartisan, with heavyweight Republican sponsors and interest from the House of Representatives.
It might seem like this could add up to something rare — real lawmaking! But don't get too excited. As much as members of Congress love to talk about helping students pay for college, these proposals are likely to get stuck, like everything else, in Congressional dysfunction, partisanship, and protocol.
That's even though the legislation is trying to solve what almost everyone agrees is a problem: the system of federal grants and loans for college is far too complicated."
Why two bipartisan bills to make college affordable are going nowhere in Congress - Vox
Perhaps to validate your point....it seems that most simply want to ridicule either the rich or the poor instead of really trying to solve the problem.
IN my simple mind, the only contrary opinion to this would be those who do not want to work to get a future and I agree with you, it only applies to the minority.
It, to me anyway, gets very old (to me anyway) hearing that the only way to solve this is to take money from people who earned it and give it away.