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Originally Posted by rubicon
"It makes no sense in avoiding war it can only help advantage the enemy"
Niccolo Machiavelli
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I do not think I have a problem with our taking our time now.
This is so complicated at this time. This is NOT a war on a country. This is a war on a movement and involves so many countries. Syria, Iraq, Iran, Russia, Turkey....all of them are players...not supporting cast. Each will use any circumstance to turn on the USA. PLEASE keep any eye on Russia and Iran as this progresses. Also keep an eye on what happens in Syria as we arm "somebody"....that is what scares me....who is "somebody" and what is their goal.
We are committed to doing this with no ground troops and bombing always has collateral damage so pray that any collateral damage is minimized and is to the right people.
My criticism is the timing of all of this. Our lack of interest for a few years even though we were warned a number of times about what is and could happen, is going to cost lives and money I am afraid.
I still have this bugaboo on the border because this kind of war is about sneaking around.....and we are certainly not sneak proof. This enemy likes to make videos and I sure do not want any of them to have an USA backdrop. Nothing wrong with our country now making a very big deal about really securing the borders.
"Nearly 70 percent of Americans say they lack confidence that the U.S. will achieve its goals in fighting the terrorist group ISIS, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg poll. The findings come in the wake of President Barack Obama’s national address announcing new measures to combat the Sunni militants.
Pressure is mounting on the U.S. and its allies to cripple the militants, who have waged a brutal campaign across Syria and Iraq. ISIS already has beheaded two American journalists and on Saturday released a video showing the execution of a third Westerner, British aid worker David Haines.
The poll – conducted before the latest execution emerged – showed that a combined 68 percent of Americans say they have “very little” or “just some” confidence that Obama’s goals of degrading and eliminating the threat posed by ISIS will be achieved. Just 28 percent said they had “a great deal” or “quite a bit” of confidence. Still, 62 percent of voters say they support Obama’s decision to take action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, while 22 percent oppose it.
“The bottom line: The president has made his case to the American public, and like other presidents who faced war and peace issues, support usually follows,” said Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who helped conduct the survey. “The difference in this military encounter is that, right out of the box, Americans are skeptical if this will work.”
Large Majority of Americans Lack Confidence in Obama Mission to Destroy ISIS, Poll Shows - NBC News
I certainly pray this all works without serious consequences.
The basis of my concern is the fact that the President overruled his own National Security Team a number of times, most recent and most relative on the situation in Syria a few years ago. This was always out there but dismissed as simple politics. Sen McCain got in the face of the past press secy Carney and well, Carney continued to perpetuate the myth that it didnt happen but it did.....
""No, no, facts are stubborn things, Mr. Carney, and that is, his entire national security team, including his secretary of state, said we want to arm and train and equip these people, and he made the unilateral decision to turn them down," McCain said."
Had it been done there as advised by
ALL of his advisors this would have been easy. This is not political....I link you to that oft used fact check site of the Tampa Bay Times and you can read most of it....
John McCain says Barack Obama went against national security team's advice to arm Syrian rebels | PolitiFact
Would have kept ISIS in check and made all of this much less dangerous....and I just pray it all goes well, because as I said...so many dangerous players in this thing.