[Patty55]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

If you are saying that the Bible is not true and any pope would agree with Hawkins that there is no God then things are worse than previously thought. I do not believe any denomination should be dabbling in such things, science cannot ever explain or replace required faith to find and serve God. So many have wavered on doctrine trying to adjust to current situations but God has not and does not change. The pope then and now are just mortal men and have the same limitations and problems as any other man. They live and die just like the rest. I am not Catholic and will take my personal experience and the written word of King David, King Solomon, Moses, and the apostles inspired of God. No one needs another to intercede with God for them. We pray directly to God and we receive our answers the same way. God called preachers to preach the gospel to the lost and when they are convicted of the sin of unbelief it is between them and God from that point. Others can pray for them but they have to find him on their own.

Hawkins can believe whatever he wants as I cannot and would not try to force anything I believe upon anyone but I will explain why I believe as I do. I will not sit by and let his opinion be perceived as fact at least not for me.

Hawkins has made an ill informed statement which he cannot prove that basically nullifies anyones belief in God and this was wrong. He may believe what he says but he has no proof and has no right to say this. He can say he believes it all he wants. It is hard to understand why the Vatican would associate with anyone so vile they would make such a statement.

Hawkins should have better spent his time trying to find a cure for his own ailment which would have benefitted many others. This would have required real research that could have been proven and carried a risk of failure rather than indulging in just his speculations which cannot be proven.

Psalms 14:1
King James Version of Psalms 14:1.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Jeez Louise, if you insist on discussing this man please at the very least get his name right. It is STEPHEN HAWKING, not Hawkins. He is a physiscist at Cambridge. In his book A Brief History in Time he discusses his views on creation. At that time he did not declare himself an atheist but concluded that if creation was self contained then God would not have the freedom to choose.

Perhaps you should consider reading some of his work (I don't think they have pictures) or at the very least spell his name properly. FYI, he has ALS, to suggest that he take time from quantum gravity to cure himself almost seems cruel.

Now, I would love to hear your thoughts on other "fools". Einstein? Tesla has always fascinated me, any thoughts on him?