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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725
Do I? Putting positions in my mouth I never spoke. What I AM saying is that people should not make over-generalizations about Muslims. Someone who has been in a war zone thinks and acts a bit differently than those who have not been under the threat of immediate death. I hardly condone the actions of ISIS. Where did I say anything remotely supporting extremists!!!!
Some of you people really play dirty! Like really below the belt Tyson style nasty.
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OK....AS an attorney you probably like to have structured discussions, as do I.
Thus, let me begin by quoting YOU...
"People behave differently when their survival is on the line. Very few Americans can really comprehend that unless they have been in a combat zone. I have never been in a combat zone but did volunteer with Veterans of Foreign Wars Hospital for a year of weekends in 1977-1978 so I did get a first hand look at the long term effects of combat in people in their 90s but also much younger.
The very violent actions of Muslims like those in ISIS usually come from combat zones. I personally do not know what I would do when presented with such a situation. I doubt if few really do unless they have had extensive military training to deal with the fear, stress, and deprivations."
Now that is exactly what YOU typed. To me, that sounds like you are making excuses for folks who have had those horrific experiences. To me, that sounded like, assuming you were discussing any anti Muslim feelings, a REASON for their actions.
I can find no reason and all I said was that other folks, many many many, have had the same experiences and NOT become violent.
Now, I did not put those words in your mouth, nor that position. Those are YOUR words taken from YOUR post. If I misread them, feel free to correct me and explain what I did misread.
I made NO generalizations about Muslims at any time in my post. I simply said that the reasons you cited are NO EXCUSE. NONE. Not for killing other people.
To me, when you offer an excuse for folks as you did, that is not exactly supporting terrorists...I agree. However, we are discussing cold blooded killers and I can find NO excuse, reason or whatever for that kind of behavior. I
DID serve in a war zone and still feel this way.
Now, I really take offense to your comment about "playing dirty" and hope you will explain that. I am working with your comments only....and not sure what you mean by "you people". Of what group do you put me in ? That might also need a bit of an explanation.
Please reply. I do not "play dirty".....I am not part of a "people" organization...I simply tried to make a point that NO MATTER THE ENVIRONMENT, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. And that many others have been in the same environment.
To me, these people have no REASON, EXCUSE, JUSTIFICATION, DEFENSE for killing other people. To me it is that simple. Perhaps in your legal mind, you just automatically find some defense for any behavior. I, right or wrong, do not think that way when it comes to killing other people in an affirmative way. I added the affirmative way so it is not turned around on me about self defense, etc.
If you seek to kill other people in an agressive manner, there are no excuses. Especially considering the who and how in this case.
Do people grow up in a environment that is scary and frightening and conducive to bad behavior....yes, and many overcome and certainly would rather be killed for not killing than to kill.