[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by CFrance

And that's all you can do--ask the question. There is no proof, nor even a tiny bit of a hint, that he constructed the ACA with the idea in mind that people's lives were not worth living after age 75. That is your personal speculation not backed up by any facts, and it's an outrageous accusation.

And I can deny that what he said applies to anyone other than himself, because he said so.

I am agreement with blueash that this ACA-bashing is based on inaccurate information being put forth by people who are just plain ticked off from listening to the rhetoric of certain people rather than doing their own research.

I am sure there were those violently opposed to Medicare as well. And where would you be without it? And try affording a medical insurance supplement before ACA with a prior existing condition.

And oh--at age 66 last year, I was offered--offered!--a pneumonia shot, paid for by Medicare. I was offered one again this year. I have been having the same labs I always had, with no denial of coverage. I have a supplemental D plan that I pay decent money for so it will cover me anywhere and with any doctor. I am not trying to get along on a free or cheap advantage plan that keeps changing benefits and doctors. You get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by CFrance

And that's all you can do--ask the question. There is no proof, nor even a tiny bit of a hint, that he constructed the ACA with the idea in mind that people's lives were not worth living after age 75. That is your personal speculation not backed up by any facts, and it's an outrageous accusation.
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It is not “outrageous” in the least to ask the question that I did. To the contrary, it is only logical to inquire given what’s on the table and especially given who said it. Actually, it’s worse to willfully ignore the possibility and then react with predictable indication to those who ponder it.

Originally Posted by CFrance

I am sure there were those violently opposed to Medicare as well. ....
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Talk about outrageous  I honestly don’t recall anyone, ever, being “violently” opposed to Medicare. That’s a very loose use of the word violent. Perhaps you meant "vehement?"

Originally Posted by CFrance

And I can deny that what he said applies to anyone other than himself, because he said so....

Now this is truly one of the most unbelievable comments I’ve ever seen posted anywhere. If effect, you can take what he said at full faith “…because he said so.” Did you really mean to say that?

I hope you misspoke because this is the weakest argument anyone can ever conjure up. I hate to break it to you but people sometimes don't always tell the whole truth and nothing but. There are, in history, literally infinite numbers of examples to the contrary of which I cite only a few here.

• I did not kill my wife and her boyfriend …. OJ Simpson
• In 1962, Nikita Khrushev assured John F. Kennedy that no offensive missiles would be placed in Cuba.
• Chancellor Hitler told me he would not invade and thus no war
• "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
• “read my lips … no new taxes”
• “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”
• “Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus”