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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
You do know that, when making a left turn on a green ball you are supposed to creep out into the intersection, not wait at the stop bar, right? Please tell me you know that.
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When there is traffic in the opposite left turn lane, the farther into the intersection you go, the less you are able to see down the other side to determine if it is safe to make your turn.
If you wait farther back, you have a better view of the lights to know when they change.
If you wait at the stop bar, you do not risk being caught in the middle of the intersection when the cross traffic starts to move.
The frequency with which people run red lights makes it dangerous to assume you can safely turn when the light turns yellow or red, much less have two or three more cars follow behind you.
If a driver is more comfortable waiting at the stop bar until they are confident it is safe to make their turn, that is what they should do. They are under no obligation to do what they are not comfortable with to expedite your journey.