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Originally Posted by CFrance
And 6.9 million people have health care who didn't have it before. Bottom line is everyone was paying for the health care of those 6.9 million people through increased insurance and hospital costs.
And pre-existing conditions are no longer an issue. (They were with me.) And your kids are covered longer, saving you many health insurance dollars while they're still in college. (Money we paid for our kids).
This will take a while, but it will end up being as good a deal as Medicare, which many also hated at the time. It would take a lot less time if the insurance companies had not lobbied against the single payer system.
We NEED to reform health care and medical costs in this country. This is a start.
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I am one who might agree with you that SOMETHING was needed to be done, and there are many many parts of this bill that I can support with vigor.
I will never get over how it was done. To pass a bill with such huge financial impact on this country, and do it with such a total lack of any effort to make it the best it could be. To not even attempt to make it bi partisan, when both parties wanted basically all the things you are touting. And most of all, even with control of both houses, to have the need to adjust the rules of the senate to pass it. Well, that will be a bad taste in mouth for a long long time.
I also am concerned about the large deductibles that I am told go with this AND a bit worried about when the bill is actually 100% in place. When small business starts getting hit....well, I guess I will admit watching the backroom deals, and there were PLENTY....MUCHO....and having our President say "oops" when confronted with his OFTEN repeated promise about the transparency (remember the CSPAN coverage he promised over and over during the campaign). It was a windfall for the insurance industry and two states that were of the same party but against this bill until given things. That might work on a small bill of some kind but this was payola in a grand scale.
This bill, more than anything....and I do not mean those things that helped people, but the shenanigans and backroom stuff and changing of the rules WITH NO EFFORT to get anyone on board is what poisoned me and I think most to what is going on in Washington because that sneaky, smug attitude continued. I am sorry if that is bitter, but that is how I feel. I will never forgive what a few people did by lying and deciet to this country and then continued within the senate for years and blamed everybody but themselves.
It served a warning and one that everyone has gotten about what was going to happen.
You are correct.....a bill was needed, and maybe we would still be talking had this not occurred. I do not know. I know politics, and I know that deals are made but this was a punch in the stomach of everyone in this country...the way it was done and I do not think that most will get over it very easily.
This bill has poisoned the well for a long time. And most think it is because opponents do not want the health care provided.....NOT SO....it is the attitude and deception used that is what turns people off. Be a long time before this country gets right with this, if ever.