Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2293764)

Our 2023 quiet tech is doing the same thing. Went away for the weekend and came back it won’t start. This is the third time.

Mine also came from the villages. I Just called and told me if I don’t drive it every day battery needs to be kept on a trickle charger.

My 2006 and 2016 Yamaha, can sit for weeks on end and start right away. We have neighbors with the same issues drive daily or no start. There has to be something going on for all of these carts to Need to be driven daily or it won’t start.

Originally Posted by GKeysor (Post 2294056)

I have the exact same problem with my wife's 2023 QT. Also had the same problem with her 2020 QT that we had to sell because Village Golf Carts in Sumter and Brownwood could not fix the problem. Service manager at Sumter explained to me the same problem and suggested remedy. It makes sense, but I can't believe they don't upgrade the cheap batteries that Yamaha puts in their new carts. I have an EE degree so I understand everyone's suggestions, and I have checked for parasitic loads on both carts (found zero). VGC is apparently now selling all their new carts with a battery tender/maintainer included. A $50 battery tender/maintainer will fix the problem, but it's a pain trying to remember to plug it in.

Originally Posted by evfan (Post 2293680)

I have a 2023 Yamaha gas golf cart bought from the Villages. I’ve had three recent instances in which the battery has drained and left me stranded. The cart does have those LED strip lights on the side that run whenever the cart is on. In each of the three cases, I’ve connected a small battery charger (not a battery tender) which charges it back up to full strength in about 24-48 hours using the low-power mode.

After this third time, I called the service department to schedule service. They mentioned to me that if I’m not driving it near daily for at least five miles, the cart doesn’t have enough time to fully recharge the battery. I live close to a championship course and just doing a round of 18 ( stop, start, stop, start )isn’t enough time to recharge the battery. Seems a bit strange to get such advice from the service department, as I’m picturing every cart barn at any club would just be full of carts sitting around on battery chargers every night.

It’s getting more difficult to be able to trust the cart won’t leave me stranded. I’m tempted to take it back and ask them to put those running lights on a [on/off] switch to minimize the drain.

What are others doing? Is this normal? How often do you connect your battery tender?

Thank you in advance. :-)

Originally Posted by Birdrm (Post 2294151)

I had the same issue with my Yamaha gas cart, I took it in for service and they found that the speedometer on the steering wheel was draining the battery when the cart was turned off. They rewired it and now when I start my cart up it takes 20-30 seconds for the speedometer to calibrate and startup but I no longer have any battery issues.

Originally Posted by PhilR (Post 2295700)

Brand new 2023 Yamaha QT. Yesterday drove from Monarch Grove to Okeechobee. 9 holes no devices on.no issues. Off to Spanish Springs for music and a walk around the fair. Loaded up and drove 1+ hour back to Monarch Grove with lights on. No warning, no dimming of lights everything fine, but the car died suddenly 1 block from home. Just quit. A little concerned based on what I’m reading here.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2295702)

I think there is a fuse under the seat. If you had full power and it just died, it means your voltage regulator etc are all working.

On the other hand, if you didn’t notice a slow dimming or you have several bells and whistles all the while the radio is going too it could mean there has been more power draw than available.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2293792)

The Yamaha owners manual states 22 PSI, if you are looking at the side of the tires, this is the MAX pressure, not the recommended pressure, and at 36 PSI your tires are going to wear out prematurely.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2295751)

Same issue yesterday drove to course played 18, nothing used except for onboard speedometer, and normal running lights (not all extra fun light)
No music ( because it’s a golf course) cart died while waiting to turn into driveway. Heading Monday to speak with someone other then sales person who’s only advice is to trickle every day.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2295826)

Buyer beware if you are buying a new Yamaha cart. The battery will die if it is not trickle charged or rewired to the ignition causing a 20 to 30 second delay on the speedometer. Paying upwards of $15000 for a cart that needs a workaround is unacceptable. This has been going on for over a year and they have been covering it up and lying about it.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2295846)

Mmm… mine is a 2022 cart, so over 2 years.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2295826)

Buyer beware if you are buying a new Yamaha cart. The battery will die if it is not trickle charged or rewired to the ignition causing a 20 to 30 second delay on the speedometer. Paying upwards of $15000 for a cart that needs a workaround is unacceptable. This has been going on for over a year and they have been covering it up and lying about it.

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2293795)

I looked at the side, saw 36. I guess i will take some air out.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2295903)

Fully loaded except for sunroof is now over $21, 000. Have to trickle everyday is criminal

Originally Posted by PhilR (Post 2295700)

Brand new 2023 Yamaha QT. Yesterday drove from Monarch Grove to Okeechobee. 9 holes no devices on.no issues. Off to Spanish Springs for music and a walk around the fair. Loaded up and drove 1+ hour back to Monarch Grove with lights on. No warning, no dimming of lights everything fine, but the car died suddenly 1 block from home. Just quit. A little concerned based on what I’m reading here.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2295912)

Drive back should keep battery full charged. To know for sure load test battery. I suspect you have other problems. It under warranty call them.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2295751)

Same issue yesterday drove to course played 18, nothing used except for onboard speedometer, and normal running lights (not all extra fun light)
No music ( because it’s a golf course) cart died while waiting to turn into driveway. Heading Monday to speak with someone other then sales person who’s only advice is to trickle every day.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2295609)

We just found out about this after purchasing a new 2024. It is an ongoing problem that they have no solution for and have been lying about. I refuse to buy a gas cart and have to plug it in everynight.

Originally Posted by PhilR (Post 2295700)

Brand new 2023 Yamaha QT. Yesterday drove from Monarch Grove to Okeechobee. 9 holes no devices on.no issues. Off to Spanish Springs for music and a walk around the fair. Loaded up and drove 1+ hour back to Monarch Grove with lights on. No warning, no dimming of lights everything fine, but the car died suddenly 1 block from home. Just quit. A little concerned based on what I’m reading here.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2296008)

I have been watching this thread, and it appears there is a solution: Reconnect the speedometer so it is TURNED OFF with the key, yes if it is like my aftermarket unit, you will not get any readings for around 30 seconds, I have been living with this for several years, it is not a problem. I cannot believe that the vendor has not figured this out. All the wiring is under the dash, you remove the current power supply wire to the speedometer and reconnect to the SWITCHED lead from the ignition switch. When done double check to make sure there are no other parasitic loads.
My other concern is the QUALITY of the factory batteries. Our 2016 vintage had a standard automotive grade battery, lasted at least 3+ years, and the replacement from Advanced Auto is going strong after 3+ years.
If someone has a wiring diagram I will be glad to make up the necessary changes and post.
I cannot believe the problems this is causing.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2296010)

I am also concerned about the reports of the cart dying on the way home. Even if the speedometer draws power when the cart is off, the charging circuit should be more than capable of keeping the battery charged while it is running. I would measure the voltage while the engine is running to ensure that it is actually charging.

In the end, trickle charging should not be necessary and any repairs/corrections should be handled under warranty for almost all 2023 carts.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2296017)

I agree with you, in a previous series of posts another villager noticed his 2017 Yamaha was actually OVERCHARGING the battery. He came up with a solution, which he implemented. I confirmed his solution, and modified our cart as it was also overcharging the battery, then with his concurrence I posted the details on this site. The interesting point is that a golf cart repair service overheard me discussing this with a neighbor, and he stated "this was a known problem, but it did not occur on all Yamahas".
My point I think Yamaha as well as the authorized dealers have a quality control problem.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2296017)

I agree with you, in a previous series of posts another villager noticed his 2017 Yamaha was actually OVERCHARGING the battery. He came up with a solution, which he implemented. I confirmed his solution, and modified our cart as it was also overcharging the battery, then with his concurrence I posted the details on this site. The interesting point is that a golf cart repair service overheard me discussing this with a neighbor, and he stated "this was a known problem, but it did not occur on all Yamahas".
My point I think Yamaha as well as the authorized dealers have a quality control problem.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2296092)

Can you possibly repost that?

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2296154)

Here is the link, see post #14 for the updated diagram.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...hlight=battery

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2295931)

No, this is a known problem with the speedometer/odometer constantly draining the battery even when everything is shut off.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2296162)

It died after hour drive home. I would think that would recharge battery? If IT is battery problem you got eliminate battery first. Just cause it years old don’t mean it good. Process of elimination. If it’s the speedometer pull junk off and put one on that don’t draw. Don’t need GPS BS anyway on golf cart what got phone for.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2296169)

That’s not the point. It is ludicrous to pay 20K for a cart that has a problem like this that has been going on for over a year, maybe even two. We don’t use the GPS only the speedometer and odometer. Yamaha needs to fix this and Villages Golf Carts needs to disclose it before people take their carts only to have the battery die a week later.

Originally Posted by PhilR (Post 2295700)

Brand new 2023 Yamaha QT. Yesterday drove from Monarch Grove to Okeechobee. 9 holes no devices on.no issues. Off to Spanish Springs for music and a walk around the fair. Loaded up and drove 1+ hour back to Monarch Grove with lights on. No warning, no dimming of lights everything fine, but the car died suddenly 1 block from home. Just quit. A little concerned based on what I’m reading here.

Originally Posted by Berwin (Post 2294207)

I talked to the Club Car dealer on 441 in Lady Lake. They said to charge my Club Car every day even if I haven't used it.

Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2295963)

Value of my 2020 just went up. Still using original battery and do not need to mess with a trickle charger.