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Old 02-13-2018, 09:08 PM
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The camber on the front tires of my 2017 EFI Yamaha golf cart is uneven. The top sidewall on the driver side is ¼ - 3/8 from perpendicular while the passenger side is ¾ - 1 inch out of perpendicular. This is causing excessive wear on the inside of my tires. Has anyone else had this situation and what was done to correct it? It appears that no adjustment is available at least on the 17s and apparently also on the 18s. At this time I will not name names as I’m only interested in a resolution.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:23 PM
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I have a general knowledge of GC, take a look at all of your bushings, rod ends, etc., for excessive wear, or loose nuts. etc. You may need a helper to turn the steering wheel back and forth while you are looking a front suspension components. If you do not see anything obvious you may need professional help.

Also, check your tire pressure, just had a neighbor bring a cart up to check tire pressure, and only one tire was at correct pressure, and 2 of the 3 remaining tires showed very excessive wear.

If you can you want to check camber from the steel (or aluminum) wheel, and NOT from the tire side walls, as tire pressure will change the measurement.

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Have you taken it back to where you bought it from? I assume it is still under warranty?? Did you check the "toe-in" ?

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The camber on the front tires of my 2017 EFI Yamaha golf cart is uneven. The top sidewall on the driver side is ¼ - 3/8 from perpendicular while the passenger side is ¾ - 1 inch out of perpendicular. This is causing excessive wear on the inside of my tires. Has anyone else had this situation and what was done to correct it? It appears that no adjustment is available at least on the 17s and apparently also on the 18s. At this time I will not name names as I’m only interested in a resolution.

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Biggest thing to check is toe. That will more than likely cure the issue, simple fix.
Yamaha did have an issue with some front shock welded incorrectly, but haven't seen that in any new cars.
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The camber on the front tires of my 2017 EFI Yamaha golf cart is uneven. The top sidewall on the driver side is ¼ - 3/8 from perpendicular while the passenger side is ¾ - 1 inch out of perpendicular. This is causing excessive wear on the inside of my tires. Has anyone else had this situation and what was done to correct it? It appears that no adjustment is available at least on the 17s and apparently also on the 18s. At this time I will not name names as I’m only interested in a resolution.
My 2018 Yamaha has 3/4 inch negative camber on both front tires. I have radials and they seem to conform to the negative camber to a point but they are defiantly wearing more on the inside. The toe is set to 1/8 inch toe in. There doesn’t seem to be any adjustment for camber.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:22 PM
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An example of the reason we are waiting to upgrade to the 2017/2018 quiet-tech cart. Lots of changes to the older model will take a couple of years to work out the bugs. Yamaha makes a quality product and I would expect that they will work out the new design flaws by 2019. Hope you can solve the alignment problem, I can't imagine there isn't a way to make some kind of adjustment?
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After we bought our 2017 Yamaha I noticed the same issue about a month after we bought it. I took it in under warranty and asked if they would fix it. The fix was to replace both front shocks and it solved the issue. Apparently the shock absorber and spring is a non adjustable assembly. I did not see any camber adjustment to correct the issue. When the spring sags the negative camber now becomes a replacement part.
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I did a quick check on the camber on my 2014 Yamaha. It is about 1/4" negative on both sides. My tires have been wearing evenly. I haven't checked the toe (yet) but I assume it is OK because of the even tire wear.

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My 2018 Yamaha has 3/4 inch negative camber on both front tires. I have radials and they seem to conform to the negative camber to a point but they are defiantly wearing more on the inside. The toe is set to 1/8 inch toe in. There doesn’t seem to be any adjustment for camber.
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Check your toe but camber on Yamaha is controlled by shock spring rate...Unfortunately.
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Check your toe but camber on Yamaha is controlled by shock spring rate...Unfortunately.
I set the toe to 1/8 inch toe in but that has no effect on camber. I made an appointment to have it checked. Likely needs new shocks and springs.
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Inside tire wear is usually caused by toe alignment. The yamahas are delivered with a great deal of toe out because it is more stable at high speeds. If you simply sight along the sides from 12 feet behind you will see the toe out. Adjust it with the tie rods. If steering becomes unstable at high speed when heavily loaded, then you have gone too far in.
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Straight ahead works best for my cart. Any toe in caused instability.
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On my 2014 Yamaha, as it came from the dealer, I measured 1/16" toe-in. I would optimistically estimate the precision of my measurement at +/- 1/16". Therefore, the actual toe-in is probably between 0" and 1/8". This is apparently a little bit outside the recommended range of 1/8" to 1/4" toe-in. The tires are wearing evenly so I don't plan on adjusting it.

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Inside tire wear is usually caused by toe alignment. The yamahas are delivered with a great deal of toe out because it is more stable at high speeds. If you simply sight along the sides from 12 feet behind you will see the toe out. Adjust it with the tie rods. If steering becomes unstable at high speed when heavily loaded, then you have gone too far in.

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On my 2014 Yamaha, as it came from the dealer, I measured 1/16" toe-in. I would optimistically estimate the precision of my measurement at +/- 1/16". Therefore, the actual toe-in is probably between 0" and 1/8". This is apparently a little bit outside the recommended range of 1/8" to 1/4" toe-in. The tires are wearing evenly so I don't plan on adjusting it.
1/8 to 1/4 toe in is the correct setting
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Both the 2015 Yamaha carts that we have were unstable and darted at speed with clubs and 2 adults. I reset the toe to 1/8 and it greatly helped one of them. My cart was still a little unstable after setting the toe so I changed the front spindles out to 2017 spindles and it fixed the problem. I believe that Yamaha started offering factory high speed gears in 2017 and the added camber was to help with the wandering or darting at higher speeds. JMHO
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