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Topspinmo 08-15-2023 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2245598)
That’s why I recently bought a brand new quiet tech and have three nice gas carts in our garage. This legacy kind of guy should be all set for the rest of my life : )

Agree, I could still be driving my first car, same with my golf cart at my age it will outlast me.

bcsnave 08-15-2023 08:47 AM
Gas cart for us also
 
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That’s why I recently bought a brand new quiet tech and have three nice gas carts in our garage. This legacy kind of guy should be all set for the rest of my life : )

Gas for us also, but I will post this up for the "Electric crowd" that have an inclination to think they are green and not using petroleum products.

And an interesting article from CBS news Lithium-ion battery fires from electric cars, bikes and scooters are on the rise. Are firefighters ready? - CBS News

Bill14564 08-15-2023 09:02 AM
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Gas for us also, but I will post this up for the "Electric crowd" that have an inclination to think they are green and not using petroleum products.

And an interesting article from CBS news Lithium-ion battery fires from electric cars, bikes and scooters are on the rise. Are firefighters ready? - CBS News
So 40% of the electricity that goes into my cart was produced by renewables or nuclear. (or is it a 40% chance?) and only 60% might come from fossil fuels. What percentage of the fuel for the gas carts come from fossil fuels?

Additionally, my fuel cost per mile with the electric cart is about $0.01 while the fuel cost per mile for the gas is $0.07. Given the large difference, there must be a large gain in efficiency in either burning fossil fuels to generate electricity or in using electricity to power the cart. Either way, I seem to use significantly less oil with the electric cart, even considering the oil used for generation.

mrf0151 08-15-2023 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2245574)
Why does this Gas vs Electric nonsense continue in The Villages?

Gas golf carts are legacy products and you probably won't be able to buy a new one, in another 3 or 4 years.

Electric Golf Carts have an 82% Market Share in the USA and a 64% Global Market Share.

They are demonstrably cleaner, more efficient, more convenient, need less maintenance, quieter and more comfortable. Gas carts have been banned by most so-called "golf cart communities" around the country.

Defending, advocating and even using a gasoline power golf cart, is no different than saying you have no use for a refrigerator, because your Ice Box works perfectly fine. Gasoline carts are dinosaurs and no amount desk pounding is going to change that.
STOP,STOP,PLEASE STOP trying to Californicate Florida.

bcsnave 08-15-2023 09:31 AM
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STOP,STOP,PLEASE STOP trying to Californicate Florida.
I agree, why cant we all just do what WE CHOOSE to do. For me, I'll just take a ride in my cart and breathe in the fresh air:icon_wink:

JMintzer 08-15-2023 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2245638)
So 40% of the electricity that goes into my cart was produced by renewables or nuclear. (or is it a 40% chance?) and only 60% might come from fossil fuels. What percentage of the fuel for the gas carts come from fossil fuels?

Additionally, my fuel cost per mile with the electric cart is about $0.01 while the fuel cost per mile for the gas is $0.07. Given the large difference, there must be a large gain in efficiency in either burning fossil fuels to generate electricity or in using electricity to power the cart. Either way, I seem to use significantly less oil with the electric cart, even considering the oil used for generation.
Living in TV, it's more likely that 100% of the electricity for your golf cart comes from burning trash...

BrianL99 08-15-2023 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2245631)
Gas for us also, but I will post this up for the "Electric crowd" that have an inclination to think they are green and not using petroleum products.

And an interesting article from CBS news Lithium-ion battery fires from electric cars, bikes and scooters are on the rise. Are firefighters ready? - CBS News
The person who wrote that article, should be embarrassed to have their name attached to it.

"Battery fires are on the rise"? Gee, I wonder how many "battery fires" they had in the 1800's? EVERY kind of "fire" damage has risen, every year since fire was discovered.

"San Francisco and NY combined, had 20 deaths and 300 injuries from "battery fires" since 2019?" In the last 3 years, more people have probably died from eating tainted lettuce or choking on a hot dog.

I hope all the crazies that rant about "Lithium Battery fires", aren't holding iPhones next to their head. If the fire doesn't get you, the gamma rays will.

TomSpasm 08-15-2023 01:29 PM
I always find it amusing that someone thinks I have an electric golf cart because I'm some sort of "green freak". I have an electric golf cart because it performs far better than any gas cart I've ever been in. When I step on the gas, it doesn't hesitate, it just goes.

JoMar 08-15-2023 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TomSpasm (Post 2245776)
I always find it amusing that someone thinks I have an electric golf cart because I'm some sort of "green freak". I have an electric golf cart because it performs far better than any gas cart I've ever been in. When I step on the gas, it doesn't hesitate, it just goes.
Agree, not a green freak here but have been driving electric since we moved here 8 years ago, only because they are more responsive, I can play music without sharing the sound with everyone around me, hold a quiet conversation with whoever is in the cart with me, don't need to make those runs to the gas station and a 40 mile range on the oldest cart (50 on the newest) takes me everywhere I need to go (neither are Lithium). I also don't understand the gas vs electric battles since we all drive what we prefer for whatever reason, why does there need to be competition

BrianL99 08-15-2023 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TomSpasm (Post 2245776)
I always find it amusing that someone thinks I have an electric golf cart because I'm some sort of "green freak". I have an electric golf cart because it performs far better than any gas cart I've ever been in. When I step on the gas, it doesn't hesitate, it just goes.
Well yeah, but the quiet is disconcerting and there's no smell!

Topspinmo 08-15-2023 05:07 PM
You can bet when golf cart mentioned it will Eventually (as this one has turn in to my electric or gas is better than yours). I could care less what your choices are. I make my own decisions and nothing going to influence me. Yes I have had both, both serve purpose.

Topspinmo 08-15-2023 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2245574)
Why does this Gas vs Electric nonsense continue in The Villages?

Gas golf carts are legacy products and you probably won't be able to buy a new one, in another 3 or 4 years.

Electric Golf Carts have an 82% Market Share in the USA and a 64% Global Market Share.

They are demonstrably cleaner, more efficient, more convenient, need less maintenance, quieter and more comfortable. Gas carts have been banned by most so-called "golf cart communities" around the country.

Defending, advocating and even using a gasoline power golf cart, is no different than saying you have no use for a refrigerator, because your Ice Box works perfectly fine. Gasoline carts are dinosaurs and no amount desk pounding is going to change that.
Nonsense.


Why? cause poster push their opinion and determined they are right. Purchase of new Gas carts will be around longer than 3 years.

bcsnave 08-15-2023 09:07 PM
CBS wrote the article
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2245726)
The person who wrote that article, should be embarrassed to have their name attached to it.

The article was from CBS news and they are pretty supportive of the Green New Deal and the Electric wave

bcsnave 08-15-2023 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TomSpasm (Post 2245776)
I always find it amusing that someone thinks I have an electric golf cart because I'm some sort of "green freak". I have an electric golf cart because it performs far better than any gas cart I've ever been in. When I step on the gas, it doesn't hesitate, it just goes.
Now this is a sound and logical explanation. I like the Quietech for the afforded distance on a fill but can certainly appreciate the performance (torque) from electric. The lithium is an expensive option and I sure do not want to replace every 4-5 years (ouch) but they do provide better range and performance.

pokeefe45@aol.com 08-15-2023 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2245574)
Why does this Gas vs Electric nonsense continue in The Villages?

Gas golf carts are legacy products and you probably won't be able to buy a new one, in another 3 or 4 years.

Electric Golf Carts have an 82% Market Share in the USA and a 64% Global Market Share.

They are demonstrably cleaner, more efficient, more convenient, need less maintenance, quieter and more comfortable. Gas carts have been banned by most so-called "golf cart communities" around the country.

Defending, advocating and even using a gasoline power golf cart, is no different than saying you have no use for a refrigerator, because your Ice Box works perfectly fine. Gasoline carts are dinosaurs and no amount desk pounding is going to change that.
I'm thinking about putting a second ice box in the garage-anyone selling one?
Also-Read the article below (there are dozens of them from all spectrums of news organizations). I'm working on a patent for a gas powered Iphone. Will let everyone know when I get it.
Child labour behind smart phone and electric car batteries.


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