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Crookedbreeze 11-20-2024 03:34 PM

Children, please..

mvasilik1 11-20-2024 03:42 PM

Check price before buy
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387365)
Yes, club car is marginally less expensive, but drive both and consider your carting experience over many years. We have both a club car and a Yamaha. Hands down, I prefer driving the Yamaha and my wife loves the club car. To each his/her own.

Actually, the Club Car Cart will cost less than a Yamaha purchased at a Village dealership. Compare both before you buy. Call Mike for details at 484-547-4261. I'm a PT employee of Cart World Golf Carts located on 441. A few miles from Spanish Springs Square.

jimjamuser 11-20-2024 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SHIBUMI (Post 2387561)
If its gas, its a Yamaha........much quieter than other gas and they juice it up so you can go 30 mph, not legal as 20 mph is the norm, but not in the villages

If its electric its Club Car.........better built chassis and suspension, BUT, 20 mph, prefer the quiet and quality

years ago Harley made great golf cars, problem was you couldn't kill them, they went out of business

Golf carts you push or pull, golf cars you drive.........terminology...carts is slang

When golf courses buy golf cars, the costs range from low of EZ-GO, mid of Yamaha, high of Club Car. Trade in value figures in as most courses trade every 5 while value is up. Club Car is also seen as a mark of a higher class of the club. Yamaha has made in roads, BUT,
most clubs buy electric and prefer club car. A golf car for 18 holes is only on for less than 30 minutes so it can go 36 holes.

That being said, get an extended range battery for the villages........or get gas to go fast, the noise will get you sooner or later, but you will ignore because you can go faster..vroom..............

I find it strange that in TV town that OLDER people want to drive gulf cars above 20 MPH, which is the posted speed limits in the residential neighborhoods. What's the point anyway? Is it some left over nostalgia from the teenage hot rod days. And like people say about the "jacked up" golf cars going 30 MPH, they are so LOUD that riding in one will give you a headache. Also the older ones STINK as they pass you by if you are out working in your yard and trying to listen to the radio. If The Villages were so DEVOTED to their residents as they would have you believe, they would REQUIRE Electric golf cars for less noise and pollution.

BrianL99 11-20-2024 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387685)

if The Villages were so DEVOTED to their residents as they would have you believe, they would REQUIRE Electric golf cars for less noise and pollution.


Most every other residential development in the USA, requires Electric Carts. The problem in The Villages, is all the legacy gas carts that folks have been hanging on to. They'd be a rebellion of major proportions, if they ever banned gas golf carts.

I suspect what we'll see in the next 5 years, is a requirement that golf carts are "registered" and TV will stop registering "new" gasoline carts.

Topspinmo 11-20-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2387385)
They’re cheaper and they don’t keep them that long. Business Economic’s.

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Topspinmo 11-20-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387685)
I find it strange that in TV town that OLDER people want to drive gulf cars above 20 MPH, which is the posted speed limits in the residential neighborhoods. What's the point anyway? Is it some left over nostalgia from the teenage hot rod days. And like people say about the "jacked up" golf cars going 30 MPH, they are so LOUD that riding in one will give you a headache. Also the older ones STINK as they pass you by if you are out working in your yard and trying to listen to the radio. If The Villages were so DEVOTED to their residents as they would have you believe, they would REQUIRE Electric golf cars for less noise and pollution.

So you even own golf cart? If so say so or your opinions mean nothing.

Topspinmo 11-20-2024 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2387617)
My neighbor used to say-

Cadillac, Cadillac
Wish I had my money back

Hyundai Genesis is awesome:
GENESIS - GV60, GV70, GV80, G70, G80, G90 | GENESIS Worldwide

Cadillac is the Oldsmobile of luxury cars.


All made with Chinese parts

Topspinmo 11-20-2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RoseyRed (Post 2387492)
I would be interested in what each of you like in the Yamaha and Club carts.

My 12 years old Yamaha get 49 to 52 MPG checked it several times plus it has low 19K miles but it not basic cart, I have upgraded seats, lights, dash, and tires. Been just reliable as my 12 year old Honda. Both still run like new. But, I am stickler about maintenance.

I had old electric club car, ok for putting around close to home. Flimsy front end that bushing worn out, brakes drums fill up with dust, make noise, and not crisp stopping. Seat was hard and uncomfortable. I was alway fighting corrosion from boiling batteries during charging, still have spot on garage floor plus stunk up garage when charging. Don’t know about newer models club cars maybe they are better? Nor do I know anything about newer Yamaha either?

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2387477)
True, but most golf courses use electric carts.

I asked why at my old TPC course. The answer was that they did't want to deal with a 2nd huge gas tank to fill them up. Not because they are "better"...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387479)
The high end hoity toity courses that lease the newest technology might have electric carts, but not everywhere. Played Southampton CC in western Massachusetts today and drove a 20 year old carbureted Yamaha that ran like a clock. Beautiful course and great deal, midweek senior green fee of $35 with a cart. That being said, I did have to choke the cart to get it running on the first hole, but that happens before the cart warms up and the temperature is in the low 40’s.

All of my county courses (very nice public courses) us Yamaha Gas and are currently switching over to the new Drive2 carts when the older ones finally give up the ghost...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2387482)
I gave my Mercedes to one of the kids and bought a Hyundai which I love. I wouldn’t take a Cadillac if you gave it to me for free.

As has been said, to each their own.

I drove a Hyundai Genesis for 11 years. My buddy, who drove a Mercedes 500S couldn't believe how nice it was. Even more so when he found out the price...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RoseyRed (Post 2387492)
I would be interested in what each of you like in the Yamaha and Club carts.

I prefer the Yamaha due to the increased room and better ride...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387643)
Most private golf courses use Electric Carts, because Members won't ride in Gasoline carts. It has nothing to do with economics.

Nonsense... They'll drive whatever is available...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387667)
JD Power ranks Cadillac as 4th in Customer Satisfaction in the Premier segment of the automobile market.. Only Lexus, Infiniti and Porsche rank higher.

JD Power ranks Genesis in the lower tier of the Premium Vehicle segment. Recommended areas to improve are: Service, Dealer Experience and general Customer Satisfaction.

In 11 years, I never had an issue with any of those things...

I guess I'm just not a golf course/cart snob...

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387685)
I find it strange that in TV town that OLDER people want to drive gulf cars above 20 MPH, which is the posted speed limits in the residential neighborhoods. What's the point anyway? Is it some left over nostalgia from the teenage hot rod days. And like people say about the "jacked up" golf cars going 30 MPH, they are so LOUD that riding in one will give you a headache. Also the older ones STINK as they pass you by if you are out working in your yard and trying to listen to the radio. If The Villages were so DEVOTED to their residents as they would have you believe, they would REQUIRE Electric golf cars for less noise and pollution.

I find it strange that someone who doesn't own ANY golf cart, and admits to taking only a few rides in one CONSTANTLY chimes in on these threads...

Topspinmo 11-20-2024 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2387728)
I find it strange that someone who doesn't own ANY golf cart, and admits to taking only a few rides in one CONSTANTLY chimes in on these threads...


Pushing the agenda. :oops:

FloridaGuy66 11-20-2024 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options.

Yamaha carts are ALSO American made in GA.

Rocksnap 11-21-2024 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2387617)
My neighbor used to say-

Cadillac, Cadillac
Wish I had my money back

Hyundai Genesis is awesome:
GENESIS - GV60, GV70, GV80, G70, G80, G90 | GENESIS Worldwide

Cadillac is the Oldsmobile of luxury cars.

Genesis ARE nice. Until you drive & compare against Lexus.
It’s the same when drinking a cheap beer. It’s all good until you then drink a real beer.

Rocksnap 11-21-2024 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2387670)
From the looks of a Publix parking lot, you will see many fewer Cadillac’s vs Hyundai’s. I wonder if price has something to do with it? Of course more gas carts/cars than EV carts/cars too. To each their own.

The major problem with Cadillac is it’s just a GM car. Still using basic off the shelf GM parts that when you sit in the car, you see the basic crapnthey put in their ‘luxury’ cars. Corvette has the same off the shelf problem.

jimmy o 11-21-2024 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

The difference in Club Cars and Yamaha is intention. Club Cars are made with golf courses in mind first, and Yamaha with Personal use first. They’re both fine carts.

As far as accusations of TV taking advantage, that’s just ludicrous. TV Golf Cart is an excellent place to buy carts, they’re convenient and have a great selection. After purchase they’re there for you too. They even supply loaners while your cart is being serviced so that you are not without fun cart transport. Sure shop around you can find a cart cheaper, but you’ll give up the convenience. For some of us the convenience is worth it.

Bilyclub 11-21-2024 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2387728)
I find it strange that someone who doesn't own ANY golf cart, and admits to taking only a few rides in one CONSTANTLY chimes in on these threads...


Yes, and he reports to Mom and Dad to get people on the naughty list here.

gighilton 11-21-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387375)
That's because the dealers in TV take advantage of local residents, in every way they can.

ClubCar is far superior to Yamaha. Call 10 golf course PGA Professionals and they'll all tell you the exact same thing. Hardly any private golf course in America, opts for the Yamaha option.

That isn't really accurate. it depends on how the companies market to golf clubs. Club Car is more active in the fleet business while Yamaha is more direct marketing to individuals. Also, depending on the type of cart, being gas or electric, Yamaha has advantage in performance , lower sound and greater range in their Quietech 2 gas carts, while Club Car has more history and performance in the electric cart.

mrf6969 11-21-2024 09:25 AM

One of the problems with purchasing the Club Car for use in The Villages is that once you go to sell it you will find that the purchase of that Club Car was a very poor value.

mkjelenbaas 11-21-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

DO NOT buy from The Villages as their prices are thousands more - go outside the bubble!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

SHIBUMI 11-21-2024 10:37 AM

golf cars made in U.S.
 
Club Car= Augusta Georgia

EZ Go = Augusta Georgia

so what's the point???


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Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2387743)
Yamaha carts are ALSO American made in GA.


Indydealmaker 11-21-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387461)
Not just my opinion, it's the opinion of most experts and those in the business. Even ChatGPT knows.

You trust AI?

tophcfa 11-21-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

Yamaha carts always have the reliable time tested engines that they build themselves. Club Cars uses third party built engines and changes manufacturers over time (Kawasaki, Subaru, Kohler). Our 2015 Club Car Precedent has a Subaru engine, which has been reliable for us and is more powerful than our Yamaha, but it’s also significantly louder and gets lower MPG. The engines aside, our Club Car has had multiple issues requiring repair while our Yamaha, which has 250% more miles on it, has been totally trouble free.

jimjamuser 11-21-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387693)
Most every other residential development in the USA, requires Electric Carts. The problem in The Villages, is all the legacy gas carts that folks have been hanging on to. They'd be a rebellion of major proportions, if they ever banned gas golf carts.

I suspect what we'll see in the next 5 years, is a requirement that golf carts are "registered" and TV will stop registering "new" gasoline carts.

That would help lower the noise of the gas golf cars passing while people are outside in their front yard, working or just sitting. I find that when I am outside listening to the radio, that when a golf car goes by they are often so loud that they drowned out the radio. I find that about 3 out of 10 golf cars going by are louder than the others and they are going about 30 MPH in a 10 MPH residential zone. So, I conclude that those 30% have "jacked up" their throttle control. I find it strange that in a retirement community that a MAX 20 MPH limit is NOT enforced. It reminds me of the NY broken window theory of Policing. If people can break the speed limit REGULARLY, then will they break other laws. And do they ever endanger older pedestrians out for a refreshing walk. There are rules about what color you can paint your house, but NO enforcement of neighborhood speed limits by Golf car, automobile, or truck..........GO FIGURE ???????

BrianL99 11-21-2024 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2387851)
You trust AI?

Not necessarily. I was in the golf business for many years, so I trust myself. In this case, AI agrees.

JMintzer 11-21-2024 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2387749)
Genesis ARE nice. Until you drive & compare against Lexus.
It’s the same when drinking a cheap beer. It’s all good until you then drink a real beer.

I've driven both. The Genesis compares quite well to the Lexus...

Plus, It's cheaper...

JMintzer 11-21-2024 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2387528)
Do yourself a favor and shop outside TV and save yourself thousands of dollars! You have been warned!!

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2387827)
DO NOT buy from The Villages as their prices are thousands more - go outside the bubble!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

Warning Will Robinson!

JMintzer 11-21-2024 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387859)
That would help lower the noise of the gas golf cars passing while people are outside in their front yard, working or just sitting. I find that when I am outside listening to the radio, that when a golf car goes by they are often so loud that they drowned out the radio. I find that about 3 out of 10 golf cars going by are louder than the others and they are going about 30 MPH in a 10 MPH residential zone. So, I conclude that those 30% have "jacked up" their throttle control. I find it strange that in a retirement community that a MAX 20 MPH limit is NOT enforced. It reminds me of the NY broken window theory of Policing. If people can break the speed limit REGULARLY, then will they break other laws. And do they ever endanger older pedestrians out for a refreshing walk. There are rules about what color you can paint your house, but NO enforcement of neighborhood speed limits by Golf car, automobile, or truck..........GO FIGURE ???????

Ever think you're annoying your neighbors by playing your radio outside all the time?

Topspinmo 11-21-2024 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387859)
That would help lower the noise of the gas golf cars passing while people are outside in their front yard, working or just sitting. I find that when I am outside listening to the radio, that when a golf car goes by they are often so loud that they drowned out the radio. I find that about 3 out of 10 golf cars going by are louder than the others and they are going about 30 MPH in a 10 MPH residential zone. So, I conclude that those 30% have "jacked up" their throttle control. I find it strange that in a retirement community that a MAX 20 MPH limit is NOT enforced. It reminds me of the NY broken window theory of Policing. If people can break the speed limit REGULARLY, then will they break other laws. And do they ever endanger older pedestrians out for a refreshing walk. There are rules about what color you can paint your house, but NO enforcement of neighborhood speed limits by Golf car, automobile, or truck..........GO FIGURE ???????

Does your neighbor enjoy your radio? If not you might want to tone it down.

Bilyclub 11-23-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387859)
That would help lower the noise of the gas golf cars passing while people are outside in their front yard, working or just sitting. I find that when I am outside listening to the radio, that when a golf car goes by they are often so loud that they drowned out the radio. I find that about 3 out of 10 golf cars going by are louder than the others and they are going about 30 MPH in a 10 MPH residential zone. So, I conclude that those 30% have "jacked up" their throttle control. I find it strange that in a retirement community that a MAX 20 MPH limit is NOT enforced. It reminds me of the NY broken window theory of Policing. If people can break the speed limit REGULARLY, then will they break other laws. And do they ever endanger older pedestrians out for a refreshing walk. There are rules about what color you can paint your house, but NO enforcement of neighborhood speed limits by Golf car, automobile, or truck..........GO FIGURE ???????

I guess you missed the last 10 years of police bashing by prosecutors, media, so called celebrities, and certain politicians. Broken windows and stop and frisk is dead.

Dotneko 11-23-2024 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2387859)
That would help lower the noise of the gas golf cars passing while people are outside in their front yard, working or just sitting. I find that when I am outside listening to the radio, that when a golf car goes by they are often so loud that they drowned out the radio. I find that about 3 out of 10 golf cars going by are louder than the others and they are going about 30 MPH in a 10 MPH residential zone. So, I conclude that those 30% have "jacked up" their throttle control. I find it strange that in a retirement community that a MAX 20 MPH limit is NOT enforced. It reminds me of the NY broken window theory of Policing. If people can break the speed limit REGULARLY, then will they break other laws. And do they ever endanger older pedestrians out for a refreshing walk. There are rules about what color you can paint your house, but NO enforcement of neighborhood speed limits by Golf car, automobile, or truck..........GO FIGURE ???????

I would like to know how you determined that 3 out of 10 carts are doing 30mph. I can honestly say in my daily driving through the villages for the last 5 years that I have never come across one cart that I estimate was doing 30 mph. Do you own a personal speed gun?

gorillarick 11-24-2024 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mvasilik1 (Post 2387362)
I've done some shopping and I was surprised to learn that an Club Car Onward 2p & 4p was less expensive then the Yamaha in the villages. It's American made in Ga and has lots of options. I would recommend checking it out. Has anyone else found that to be true?

Yamaha carts are manufactured in the US also.


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