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jimjamuser 02-05-2024 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2298256)
The Villages is the onlly place left that uses gas carts. Their resale value will soon be about the same as a picture tube TV. Electric is 10 times less expensive per mile and 100x less polluting.

4 years ago I bought a 2011 Star Cart and replaced the batteries with lithium and have been thrilled with the results.

Buy gas only if you need to spend all day driving your cart ... or if you are very old fashioned.
I wonder what the true statistics are about the number of gas vs electric golf carts is in the US. I also wonder about which is the most popular in other countries like in Europe or Australia?

jimjamuser 02-05-2024 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2298287)
A lot of older folks prefer the Gasoline carts. The vibration and noise helps keep them awake and alert. It's way too easy to fall asleep in a silent, electric cart.
A person could buy an electric cart and play hot jazz in order to stay alert.

BrianL99 02-05-2024 07:49 PM
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I wonder what the true statistics are about the number of gas vs electric golf carts is in the US. I also wonder about which is the most popular in other countries like in Europe or Australia?
80% Electric World Wide

Golf Cart Market Share, Growth & Size | Industry Trends [2028]


A little over 80% Electric in the USA. Considering the size of the TV Market, that probably makes up at least 1/2 of the gasoline market in the entire USA. Over 80% of Yamaha USA Gas Golf Carts go to TV.

U.S. Market Study on Golf Carts: Electric Golf Cart Sales to Rise Steadily Going Forward

jimjamuser 02-05-2024 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2298299)
Electric carts are very hard to come by. I did a search of used carts and out of 7 pages of used carts at TOTV I only found 4 that were lithium. Given that 40% of carts sold in the villages are now electric it appears electric owners are keeping theirs.
Resale value equals supply and demand...I think thats what you were looking for.
I did NOT realize that E-cart ownership was that HIGH (40%). I imagine with continued improvement in batteries (like more range) that E-carts will INCREASE in ownership and with more sales the price could go DOWN.

Bilyclub 02-05-2024 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2298269)
Last year, about 80% of the golf carts sold by Villages Golf Cars had Lithium Ion batteries. That’s a reverse from two years before, when it was mostly Yamahas being sold.
Since when does The Villages Golf Cars publish sales figures? Most of the pics they release of new carts with their owners are Yamahas.

jimjamuser 02-05-2024 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2298466)
80% Electric World Wide

Golf Cart Market Share, Growth & Size | Industry Trends [2028]


A little over 80% Electric in the USA. Considering the size of the TV Market, that probably makes up at least 1/2 of the gasoline market in the entire USA. Over 80% of Yamaha USA Gas Golf Carts go to TV.

U.S. Market Study on Golf Carts: Electric Golf Cart Sales to Rise Steadily Going Forward
Thanks...... 80% electric golf cart in the US and the world - nice to know that the US is as sophisticated as the rest of the world.

NoMoSno 02-05-2024 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2298466)
Over 80% of Yamaha USA Gas Golf Carts go to TV.
Not even close to 80%...

BrianL99 02-05-2024 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2298471)
Not even close to 80%...
The EVP at Yamaha USA who told me that, would beg to differ with you.

Where else would they go? Other than a few low rent golf courses that might still buy a few? Gas golf carts are novelties, every place other than TV.

NoMoSno 02-05-2024 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2298476)
The EVP at Yamaha USA who told me that, would beg to differ with you.
OK...

shaw8700@outlook.com 02-05-2024 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2298256)
The Villages is the onlly place left that uses gas carts. Their resale value will soon be about the same as a picture tube TV. Electric is 10 times less expensive per mile and 100x less polluting.

4 years ago I bought a 2011 Star Cart and replaced the batteries with lithium and have been thrilled with the results.

Buy gas only if you need to spend all day driving your cart ... or if you are very old fashioned.
It depends on whether you can look yourself in the mirror after you’ve thrown away your batteries when you’ve used them up.

thelegges 02-05-2024 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2298471)
Not even close to 80%...
80% of what is produced by Yamaha goes to TV, doesn’t mean 80% of all carts in TV are gas.

Besides when we came in 07 electric was very much the norm. Of course TV was the established SS, and the newly built empty LSL. Reason everyone owned electric wasn’t to save the environment, it was what was being sold at a higher volume at the time. Farther north you go you will see more the really old electric carts, still running and owners are very happy to keep their older carts.

As TV evolved gas became more prevalent, because older batteries just wasn’t going to get you there and back in those days.

tophcfa 02-05-2024 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2298469)
Thanks...... 80% electric golf cart in the US and the world - nice to know that the US is as sophisticated as the rest of the world.
So are you saying that Villagers driving gas carts are unsophisticated?

BrianL99 02-06-2024 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2298488)
So are you saying that Villagers driving gas carts are unsophisticated?

Mired in the past, might be a better characterization.

Same reason we see so many gasoline powered carts, gussied up to be reminiscent of the 1930's. How many Villagers were even around in the 30's?

... or the seeming need of every band that shows up at the squares, to play Mustang Sally.

Aviator1211 02-06-2024 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 2298354)
Remember. Electric carts will need to have their batteries replaced after 5 to 8 years. That's going to cost you around $1000 or more. Check out that cost before you buy.
This is outdated information that only applies to the old lead-acid batteries. Beware of gas advocates using outdated information. Lithium golf cart batteries are just like the ones in your cell phone and will last 2000 full charge cycles just like your cell phone battery. That equates to 60,000 miles. The batteries will outlast all of us.

Aviator1211 02-06-2024 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2298361)
Electric carts: Count on replacing the batteries every couple of years. That's about an $800+ expense right there. Plus, you want to drive to the North end of the Villages from the South end? At some point as your batteries age they will run down before you get home. When your batteries do run down you need to recharge them for about 12 hours before you're at full strength again.

Gas carts: My 1997 Yamaha is still going strong, gets 42 mpg giving me a range of about 200 miles. If I get low on gas I pull into a gas station and fill up and I'm good for another 200 miles. I do an annual maintenance by a local golf cart outfit for $85 and I'm good for another year.

I had electric to start with, but The Villages has outgrown electric carts.
More outdated information which only applies to the obsolete lead-acid batteries. Even if this was current information, the dramatically lower operating cost of electric carts pay for the replacement battery cost.


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