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Annie66 12-02-2019 06:34 AM

I have a 2015 Yamaha cart which has about 3000 miles on it. I have been using 10% ethanol gas since I bought it second hand in 2016. I have seen the comments about Sta-Bil. That product appears to be a fuel stabilizer for long term storage. My question involves the use of Seafoam Gas Treatment which is used to clean gunk build up on the internals of small engine. Does anyone know if Seafoam can be used "safely" in a gas cart engine?

Minoletti 12-02-2019 07:08 AM

Most gas sold is a blend to include a small amount of ethanol. The blend is either 5% or 10% ethanol mixed in. That is the norm for most gas sold.
The NON ethanol gas, obviously doesnt contain ethanol and will produce slightly more energy when ignited (burned). Not enough for you to notice.

E85 gas is a blend of 85% gasoline and 15% ethanol. This type gas should not be used in cars that are not E85 capable nor golf carts or small engines.
Stainless steel tubing and other ss components are required for E85 gas due to its corrosive nature.

In summary, you are ok with the 5% or 10% blends normally sold when using in your golf cart and basically wasting a little cash if purchasing ethanol free gas.

anothersteve 12-02-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoletti (Post 1698533)
Most gas sold is a blend to include a small amount of ethanol. The blend is either 5% or 10% ethanol mixed in. That is the norm for most gas sold.
The NON ethanol gas, obviously doesnt contain ethanol and will produce slightly more energy when ignited (burned). Not enough for you to notice.

E85 gas is a blend of 85% gasoline and 15% ethanol.

Actually the reverse is true. E85 is 85% ethanol
Steve

graciegirl 12-02-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1698526)
I have a 2015 Yamaha cart which has about 3000 miles on it. I have been using 10% ethanol gas since I bought it second hand in 2016. I have seen the comments about Sta-Bil. That product appears to be a fuel stabilizer for long term storage. My question involves the use of Seafoam Gas Treatment which is used to clean gunk build up on the internals of small engine. Does anyone know if Seafoam can be used "safely" in a gas cart engine?

I use regular gas in mine and Helene's golf cart. (Actually I don't put it in, my dear husband does) Anyhow this cart is a 2001 Yamaha. Gets us where we're going. Henry uses regular gas in his new Club Car.

biker1 12-02-2019 07:38 AM

What is the issue with your golf cart that you are trying to solve with Seafoam? If you don't have any issues then no remedy is required.

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1698526)
I have a 2015 Yamaha cart which has about 3000 miles on it. I have been using 10% ethanol gas since I bought it second hand in 2016. I have seen the comments about Sta-Bil. That product appears to be a fuel stabilizer for long term storage. My question involves the use of Seafoam Gas Treatment which is used to clean gunk build up on the internals of small engine. Does anyone know if Seafoam can be used "safely" in a gas cart engine?


wganderson13 12-02-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollie (Post 1698362)
Just purchased my first new gas powered Yamaha. Looking for opinions on gas. I was under the impression that ethanol free gas is better for small engines. I noticed that they sell it at The Villages Golf store, but the price is over a dollar a gallon more expensive than regular gas. I noticed the other day that WaWa sell non ethanol gas for about 60 cent a gallon cheaper.

Rollie

Yamaha salesman told me that as long as the gas is used up within a month, regular gas is fine. Yamaha's manual states regular gas. Have 2019 also.

Challenger 12-02-2019 07:51 AM

Read your Manual . Regular(lowest price) 87Oct gas is perfectly ok for your GC. Any make. Sta Bil and gas additives are a marketing ploy and have very little real benefit (except for those in it's sale chain) Go on line and read the research. Paying a 30 per cent premium for no ethanol gas is bizarre . I have owned 4 Golf Carts over 10 years here. Always used regular gas. Never had even a minor engine problem
I average 300/350 miles a month over that time. think PT Barnum.

skipalong 12-02-2019 07:58 AM

I’ve talked to a lot of small engine repair people about this and was told the following: Always use it in things that are used less frequently, gas lawn mowers, trimmers etc, most said that even though golf carts are used a lot it takes along time to use up the gas so if you can foot the bill get the ethanol free gas.

Challenger 12-02-2019 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by skipalong (Post 1698557)
I’ve talked to a lot of small engine repair people about this and was told the following: Always use it in things that are used less frequently, gas lawn mowers, trimmers etc, most said that even though golf carts are used a lot it takes along time to use up the gas so if you can foot the bill get the ethanol free gas.

Just my experience: 4 carts over 10 years. Left many times unattended for 2/4 months at a time. No additives, regular 87 octane, No-none- engine problems . Instant start on return to use.

Dimagolfer 12-02-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1698386)
Look at your owners manual. It states that fuels containing more than 10% ethanol are not recommended. "Regular" gas is 10% ethanol so you will be fine using "regular".

Using reg. gas is OK, if not sitting for any length of time! However, I always use a stabilizer in reg. fuel for small engines .

dewilson58 12-02-2019 08:43 AM

I'm feeling a little gassy.











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ckcapaul 12-02-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimagolfer (Post 1698566)
Using reg. gas is OK, if not sitting for any length of time! However, I always use a stabilizer in reg. fuel for small engines .

I have worked on small engines, cars etc. and have seen the benefits of using a fuel stabilizer. You may get away with out using it, but why gamble for the price of a bottle.

bassfish 12-02-2019 10:00 AM

Buy it, it’s recommened for our carts
I’m not close to wawa’s, I go to marathon and it’s a buck higher

OhioBuckeye 12-02-2019 10:29 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Rollie (Post 1698362)
Just purchased my first new gas powered Yamaha. Looking for opinions on gas. I was under the impression that ethanol free gas is better for small engines. I noticed that they sell it at The Villages Golf store, but the price is over a dollar a gallon more expensive than regular gas. I noticed the other day that WaWa sell non ethanol gas for about 60 cent a gallon cheaper.

Rollie

Well, I don’t know if Ethanol is better or not but I bought a brand new 2013 Yamaha in Sept. of 2012 & in Dec. of 2017 I traded it in for a 2018 Yamaha & I had 26,000 miles on it & it still ran like new, no issues as far as gas. Just get it serviced regularly.

npwalters 12-02-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1698494)
drive to wawa to save a buck?

yes, I hate paying exorbitant price just for convenience


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