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MorTech 02-20-2017 12:43 AM

In 10 years TV will expand somewhere around Lakeland so hydrogen fuel cell might be of some value :)
Nothing like cracking water in the garage for hydrogen...I'm sure the neighbors and SECO won't mind.

You just can't beat a hydrocarbon and it's amazing energy density. If they weren't produced naturally on earth then we would have to invent them. Cracking water for hydrogen would require nuclear power to make it feasible...Same for creating hydrocarbons.

twoplanekid 02-20-2017 09:24 AM

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As seen at the Villages golf cart dealership in Brownwood this past weekend, some mean machines but probably not electric and may not fit in the tunnels.

MorTech 02-22-2017 10:57 AM

Looks like the EZGO Elite RXV comes in 3 battery sizes - 60, 90, 120 ah.

Pricey.

RXV Elite Lithium 2.0 (60 amp-hour)

Blackie 02-22-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1364037)
Looks like the EZGO Elite RXV comes in 3 battery sizes - 60, 90, 120 ah.

Pricey.

RXV Elite Lithium 2.0 (60 amp-hour)


So what do those 3 sizes signify as far as range is concerned?

biker1 02-22-2017 12:26 PM

Thanks for posting the webpage.

It looks like the price increase over the same cart with a gas engine is as follows:

30ah battery: an extra $2600
60ah battery: an extra $3750
90ah battery: an extra $4650

Pricey indeed.




Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1364037)
Looks like the EZGO Elite RXV comes in 3 battery sizes - 60, 90, 120 ah.

Pricey.

RXV Elite Lithium 2.0 (60 amp-hour)


Arctic Fox 02-22-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1362915)
Cracking water for hydrogen would require nuclear power to make it feasible.

Or solar - I suspect that, as their petroleum reserves run down, many Middle Eastern states will establish large solar power arrays and make hydrogen to be exported to the rest of the World much as LNG is today.

Paulz 02-22-2017 05:51 PM

I meant 12lbs more each 60 vs. 72. Sorry for the confusion. As far as acceleration with the AC motor it is very quick off the line.

MorTech 02-22-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackie (Post 1364070)
So what do those 3 sizes signify as far as range is concerned?

Don't know yet. EZGO doesn't publish typical watts per mile spec. EZGO does state 50% more efficient than Yamaha AC and Club Car..whatever that means.

Does EZGO really think there is a fleet market at these prices? Maybe fleet discount is substantial else fleets will just buy Yamaha QuieTech carts. Well, if TV can get $13K for a typical QuieTech, then these might sell well here.

MorTech 02-22-2017 11:36 PM

Liquefying hydrogen for export? I don't think so.

Crude oil is naturally created in the Earth using hydrogen, carbonates, and sun energy. Hydrocarbons are "liquid sunshine". See the Carbon Cycle.

Maybe this is the future of hydrocarbon production.

Fuel from Seawater? What's the Catch?
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biker1 02-23-2017 12:52 AM

The prices in The Villages reflect all the goodies (sunbrella, seats, etc.) added on plus some healthy margin. The incremental cost between gas and the lithium-ion electrics may very well be passed on so you would be looking at $16K to $18k prices. I don't think those will sell very well.

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1364325)
Don't know yet. EZGO doesn't publish typical watts per mile spec. EZGO does state 50% more efficient than Yamaha AC and Club Car..whatever that means.

Does EZGO really think there is a fleet market at these prices? Maybe fleet discount is substantial else fleets will just buy Yamaha QuieTech carts. Well, if TV can get $13K for a typical QuieTech, then these might sell well here.


MorTech 02-25-2017 03:26 PM

I am guessing the 90 ah lithium battery will get about 40 miles.
That's Osceola Hills to Lopez for a round of golf and back...easily.
I consider 40 mile range minimum for TV.
It should charge at about 8 mph - so a full 5 hour charge should yield 40 miles.
Not bad but a little too pricey by at least a grand.

Arctic Fox 02-25-2017 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1364326)
Liquefying hydrogen for export? I don't think so.

They have been liquefying natural gas for export for decades - no real difference for hydrogen

Blackie 03-07-2017 07:54 AM

New Lithium Battery!!
 
Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries | UT News | The University of Texas at Austin

A better battery for the near future - maybe?


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