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tophcfa 10-28-2023 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2269175)
We are having a cart delivered from the same place. Did you have any issues on delivery? We are so excited. Riding in the golf cart is one of joys of moving into TV.
No problem with the delivery, and they came back to the house after I put 30 hours on the cart and did a free oil change (I paid a $5 up-charge for Amsoil) and checked and adjusted everything as needed. When the cart was about 2 months old, I had a problem with the headlight switch and they came to our house a couple days later and put in a new headlight/blinker control assembly. The cart now has 150 hours on it without any issues and we love it. We would definitely use them again and highly recommend them. Enjoy your new Quietech : )

Marmaduke 10-28-2023 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2268838)
Everyone likes a quieter cart so when we moved here almost 20 years ago, we got a Club 4 battery electric. It was wonderful until the batteries got a couple years on them and then the range dropped off some. With the new lithium batteries there seems to be many positives as they are supposed to last longer and give much better range. However, the jury is really out on these lithium electric carts because they do not have a long track record.
The only cart out there right now with over 2 decades plus of track record is the Yamaha gas.
With the best ride and handling and steering of all carts and the indestructible Yamaha motor, it is the safe bet. By the way, the Yamaha gas is now almost as quiet as an electric cart.
I think your answer is very helpful. Nice!
We bought a lithium battery operated cart from Cart World and it is FANTASTIC.
Friends critique us because they hear that those batteries can catch fire. We do not care. No noise, no maintenance beyond an annual physical. 8 year lithium battery warrenty.

Marmaduke 10-28-2023 04:38 PM
Actually, we do care about the controversy over lithium batteries, but we charge it and unplug it right away.
It charges very quickly and we don't leave it plugged in for hours beyond a full charge.

Jerrysherry 10-28-2023 04:50 PM
I have electric Carts for over 20+yrs.now I have Lithium Battery, just love quiet ride, no gas fumes not loud !

Dlpdo 10-28-2023 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2268838)
Everyone likes a quieter cart so when we moved here almost 20 years ago, we got a Club 4 battery electric. It was wonderful until the batteries got a couple years on them and then the range dropped off some. With the new lithium batteries there seems to be many positives as they are supposed to last longer and give much better range. However, the jury is really out on these lithium electric carts because they do not have a long track record.
The only cart out there right now with over 2 decades plus of track record is the Yamaha gas.
With the best ride and handling and steering of all carts and the indestructible Yamaha motor, it is the safe bet. By the way, the Yamaha gas is now almost as quiet as an electric cart.
Just for info the Yamaha gas is no where near a quiet as the electric carts. They have been using lithium batteries in cars since before 2010 with great success. I thinks that should be an adequate track record.

photo1902 10-28-2023 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2268949)
Be careful buying used gas if it isn’t a Yamaha QT2 - the older gas carts are quite noxious - never back it in lest you pollute the entire garage and even the house. The people you pass will hate you too.
Don’t be a drama queen

jimjamuser 10-28-2023 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2268838)
Everyone likes a quieter cart so when we moved here almost 20 years ago, we got a Club 4 battery electric. It was wonderful until the batteries got a couple years on them and then the range dropped off some. With the new lithium batteries there seems to be many positives as they are supposed to last longer and give much better range. However, the jury is really out on these lithium electric carts because they do not have a long track record.
The only cart out there right now with over 2 decades plus of track record is the Yamaha gas.
With the best ride and handling and steering of all carts and the indestructible Yamaha motor, it is the safe bet. By the way, the Yamaha gas is now almost as quiet as an electric cart.
Most older gas golf carts are noisier than most cars and trucks. That is stupid crazy to me. Put a good muffler on those older ones!

jimjamuser 10-28-2023 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2268892)
I agree with above, do not jump immediately into a new cart. Get a nice used one, get to know the villages which is now around 70 square miles, and over 20 miles North to South. Electric GC have some range limitations you may need to consider, and time required to recharge, gas typically can go 200 to 250 miles on a full tank and few minutes to "recharge". The newest Yamaha quietech are actually very nice, we have one and we can hold a conversation at normal voice levels and any speed. Yes, all of the gas golf carts have some odor, which you will typically never smell unless you are backing up, you will smell OTHER gas carts.
My point, get a gas cart use it for a few weeks or months to get an idea of what you actually Need/want, then either keep the cart you picked up or going with something different.
All the older gas golf carts smell after they have gone by your location. It has to be unhealthy to breathe in those pathetic gases. Cars and trucks with much larger motors have much less smell. And not to mention the effect on the upper atmosphere layer.

jimjamuser 10-28-2023 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2268957)
Yes, I paid a little over $4K to replace my lead-acid batteries with three lithium ones. They are good for 13 miles each (totaling 39 miles). BUT, they are warranted for 10 years and any problems will be fixed for no charge, so please quit quoting the 5-8 years to scare people away from electric.
Yes instead of scaring people away from electric golf carts, there should be a rule to ONLY allow electric in The Villages. Oh, I forgot......that would be progressive and we would NEVER want that. Never be at the forefront of progress.

jimjamuser 10-28-2023 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Altawood (Post 2268980)
The price of a new Yamaha is beyond ridiculous when compared to an automobile and the engineering/design is tailored to a vehicle for driving 18 holes in a day, not 10-15 at 20+ mph.
The Gas carts do have a history, one of noise and smell. In addition, the gas carts require yearly maintenance while the EV do not. They are quieter, smoother and handle just as well. The operating cost of the EV is less also. While the Gas carts can go 2x-miles on a tank, the EV’s can’t make half of that, but then you don’t have to visit the gas station with the EV. Just plug it in when you return home and you’re full by morning at a cost of $0.60 or $0.01 per mile.

I have never heard of a course or village that requires participants to use gas carts, but know of many that require electric.
Having said all that, do NOT buy an EV that uses lead-acid batteries. Only lithium.
The above is my opinion and there are plenty of dissenters. Enjoy your time in The Villages.
An electric golf cart helps keep DOWN the earth's temperatures. Less upper atmosphere HEAT reflection. Anyone notice the record temperatures here in Florida this summer? Gas golf carts put out a lot of smoke and pollution, especially the older ones!

coleprice 10-28-2023 09:35 PM
Star Electric Cart has been GREAT!
 
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Originally Posted by GoingSouth (Post 2268815)
Relocating to TV and need a Golf Car/Cart. I went to a dealership in TV and looked at EV and gas. I read the forums and found guidance to include:
1. Buy in GA and have it shipped. (One suggestion, rent a uHaul and bring it)
2. Buy in TV from a dealer.
3. Buy outside TV - "Fast Eddie's" may not be a finalist.
4. Buy used - have on-site repair person or mechanic evaluate.
5. Buy Yamaha Gas - proven reliability
6. Buy EV lithium - Quiet, low maintenance, postpone TV from becoming "ocean front".

The internal battle is between "frugality, not over-spending, being taken advantage of" and "convenience". I can come up with a rationalization for each.

I am leaning towards Used, but need a recommendation on a mechanic or on-site service company to do the evaluation.

Thoughts on thinking or approaches welcome.
We bought a STAR electric Cart that has 8 Lead-Cell Batteries. We have about an 80 mile range, but our range reduced to about 50 miles after 5 years, prior to replacing the original batteries. It has been very reliable, plus there's no nasty smells that gas carts emit and it's quiet. The NEW Yamaha carts are very clean burning and quiet, but they're much more expensive than a used electric STAR or Club Golf cart. As far as convenience is concerned, I plug my electric cart into a 120V outlet at night, after use. Never have to make a trip to buy gas and no need to store hazardous gas at home.

wamley 10-29-2023 08:07 AM
Difficult to get parts for anything related to the litium battery if you have trouble. Comes from China and can take months.

Bill14564 10-29-2023 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 2269356)
Difficult to get parts for anything related to the litium battery if you have trouble. Comes from China and can take months.
There are no parts related to the lithium battery.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-29-2023 08:46 AM
A few things keep me from being interested in E-carts:
1. A full 5-gallon tank of gas will last longer than a single full charge on an EV. If you use your cart every day for grocery, socialization, a round of golf every week, going to the squares, your clubs, doctor's office, picking up the mail - how often would you need to charge your batteries vs. how often you'd need to add gas to the tank?

2. When a gas cart battery needs to be replaced, it's around $100. When an electric cart's batteries need replacing it can set you back a few thousand bucks.

3. If the power's out, your e-cart will just have to sit there until the power's back on, and then you still have to wait for the charging process to complete. If you have a gas cart, just top it off from the 2-gallon can you keep in the garage for the lawnmower and you're good to go for another few days.

KennyP 10-29-2023 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2269238)
Most older gas golf carts are noisier than most cars and trucks. That is stupid crazy to me. Put a good muffler on those older ones!
That wont make them quieter


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