Guess they don’t put speedometer on electric carts?:wave:

Like you, no thanks.

Yamaha has been making fuel injected engines since 2012 1/2. Agree any carburetors on any cart will smell due to cold starting.

It was a outing that began at 8 in the morning. I'm sure they had all the carts charging overnight, so yeah, it was the carts fault. Now if you're saying that their carts were old and needed replacement it would be on the Harbor Hills.

I got mine there as well. I didn’t want to wait 6+ months that TV store was quoting me, plus I saved a few bucks.

Over thinking can minimize over spending.:posting:

I've seen several dead gas carts left out on golf courses over the years. They are not immune to dying for a variety of reasons.

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what im saying is if the course took car of the carts better, that would not happen, so its on the course.

Beware of advice from those who have never owned an electric cart. New battery replacement is nowhere near $4k. I recently converted my lead acid battery cart to Lithium Iron Phosphate or LiFePO4 batteries for less than $1200. LiFePO4 batteries differ from the more common Lithium Ion Cobalt in that they are safer, can be recharged hundreds of more times, and the power does not drop off as you run your cart. They will need replacement eventually BUT you will save that money spent in replacing them in that electric carts are essentially maintenance free and have so few parts that they rarely (if ever) break down.

Think of all the belts, hoses, and filters on a gas engine. Fuel injectors, spark plugs, exhaust systems to replace. Oil changes and tuneups. I have seen many many gas carts broken down along the trails but have yet to see an electric one waiting on a tow. Then there is having to go to the gas station to refuel or storing smelly gas in the garage. My neighbors cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and you can still smell it a year later (and it stained their floor).

My cart will run all day with juice leftover and all I do at the end of the day is plug it in and its ready to go for the next day. The batteries are so lightweight that my cart picked up 2 mph after replacing the original heavy batteries & the cart is way lighter than a gas cart. I would never buy a smelly, noisy, polluting high-maintenance gas cart in this day and age. Electric carts are the future and you will save a bundle in the long run. The photo below is of my electric 1999 Club Car DS which runs like a new cart (if not better) even at almost 25 years of age!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...c-club-car.jpg

Probably the golfers.

Only gas cart I would recommend is the Yamaha Quietech.

Many choices for electric but consider the Atlas 210ah cart...90 miles of tranquil range. Serenity with zero maintenance is key!

I built my own 150ah lithium battery pack ($2000) for an older $6000 AC motor cart but I would not recommend building your own without an extensive STEM background.

Density varieties
 

Dang. That sure sent me googling right quick. Lithium-ion batteries vs lithium-iron-phosphate batteries: which is better? | HERE Not gonna hurt my head by trying to figure out the differences between "power density" and "energy density".

But, if I read that article correctly, it doesn't seem to quite agree with some of your points. But, my understanding of *any* aspect of electromagnetism shall always remain limited.

*Did* note that "ion" and "iron" look really similar, and that LiFe looks a lot like "life". Took me a minute to realize that the "Fe" part refers to iron. :-)

"Extensive"
 

Thinkin there must be a mighty large range of STEM backgrounds. Bet there's plenty of "extensive" ones that *still* wouldn't allow one to pull off something like that. :-) Impressive - at least to *me*.

With any STEM background, one would be able to figure it out...Math / Physics / Chemistry are basis of STEM. STEM enables the ability to figure out physical reality.

That article posted above is just plain wrong..Try these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdZL8RF3thI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iptLhpK6Cg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-1psMHSpKs

LFP chemistry is more stable than tirnary chemistry...especially NCA.

Solvation shells :-)
 

Guess I'd need "any" defined. :-) My STEM background as compared to that of an electrical engineer would be orders of magnitude smaller. My STEM background as compared to the average guy on the street is probably quite a bit greater. Kinda leaves me in a sort of "limbo" zone, I guess.

I nibbled around the edges of your first two listed videos. Looks like "LFP" is the same creature as the aforementioned "LiFe". Had been unaware of the sodium version. Did watch the third video listed to completion. Fascinating stuff, but it still hurts my head too much to competently "figure it out". Could just be laziness, could just be lack of brain power. Although, the "crashing of the wave" analogy definitely helped with what I've previously read about how much actual "movement" of electrons there is within currents.

Guess I'll continue to stick to my "history" of science hobby rather than the real thing. *Did* just learn about how humanity just missed out on possibly avoiding the major portion of the nuclear arms race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmgFG7PUHfo And, didja know that Ben Franklin came up with the term "battery" based on the arrangement of his batch of Leyden jars? :-)