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JoeinFL 06-25-2020 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1790451)
Just buy Mobil 1, 10W40, do you think Yamaha is in the oil refinery business--all they do is package bulk oil
The OP’s post was a good one. Pointing out something that is useful to many.
Why reply the way you did?

Kerry Azz 06-25-2020 08:57 AM
Yamaha oil filter
 
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Originally Posted by Ying li (Post 1790437)
I purchased a 2020 Yamaha drive 2 efi quietech from the villages golf cart in LSL. I was about to change the oil. While looking at my owners Manuel, it recommended yamalube oil viscosity 10W-30 for temperatures 10 to 70 degrees Fahrenheit or 10W-40 for temperatures 10 to 110 degrees Fahrenheit. So I went to TV golf cart LSL. Asked to purchase a quart of 10W-40 yamalube oil. They told me they didn't sell 10W40, just the 30. I said, but we will be in the mid 90s the whole summer. The Manuel says to use 10W40 in these temperatures. They had no answer for me other than, we only sell 10W30. So the oil changes they do, break down after 70 degrees. Tell me how how many engines get ruined by this practice. I'm going to buy the 10W40 for my oil change and do it myself.
I’m cot sure what they were thinking when they designed the Yamaha engine without an oil filter. This is just a comment bur their design team baffles me. And no I won’t ever own one simply because of that.

biker1 06-25-2020 09:56 AM
The Yamaha 357 cc golf cart engines, as well as many other small air cooled engines, use a splash lubrication system and don't have an oil filter. For example, many of the excellent Honda small air cooled engines use splash lubrication and don't have an oil filter. Yamaha warranties their golf cart engines for 5000 hours if you use Yamalube and follow their recommended oil change frequency. This amounts to about 80,000 miles. I am pretty sure the engine will outlast the rest of the golf cart. There are tens of thousands of Yamaha gas golf carts in The Villages that are running around every day doing just fine.

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1791658)
I’m cot sure what they were thinking when they designed the Yamaha engine without an oil filter. This is just a comment bur their design team baffles me. And no I won’t ever own one simply because of that.

HappyTXVillager 06-25-2020 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1790736)
Why even bother with them....
You mean OTHER than the Warranty?? 🥴🤪

Topspinmo 07-13-2020 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1790845)
Yep. I use Mobil 1 both oil and filter. The filters are rated for 20,000 miles, the oil 10,000. I change both at 10. However the wrench comes on at 5,000. I wonder why? Could it be they want you to pay for something you really don’t need. No, they wouldn’t do that.
The wrench schedule based on miles and time, which every gets there first.

Topspinmo 07-28-2020 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1791658)
I’m cot sure what they were thinking when they designed the Yamaha engine without an oil filter. This is just a comment bur their design team baffles me. And no I won’t ever own one simply because of that.
It’s glorified lawn Mower Single piston air cooled engine, same design pressure washer engine, generator engine, water pump engine, go cart engine, log splitter engine ect... Oil filter’s on lawn mower engines was add on when higher Hp singles and twins. any air cooled engine requires frequent oils changes especially on mowers due to load and dirty environment. Golf cart engine’s are extremely light duty when compared to the other working engines. But you still have to check and change the oil. My Yamaha oil get dirty from the combustion process not heat or dirty environment due to little load And governed RPM. I don’t have to change it as often as working engines due to light duty.

Topspinmo 09-18-2020 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1790695)
I agree. I have a Honda CR-V and an Accord. I decided to change my own oil. I asked a former Honda service manager what he recommended. He said he used 10W40 in the summer etc. I then looked in the manuals and they both said to use 0W20 all year. So I would imagine 10W30 would be fine for your cart. Just change it when recommended.
You’re Honda engine has VVT, you don’t want to put inferior oil that might coke up when its get degraded. I would not put 10w anything in Honda that requires 0w20 full synthetic.

Kerry Azz 09-19-2020 07:29 AM
When did Yamaha start putting oil filters on their golf cart engines. At $12-13.00 a quart cost at the villages golf cart I’d never let them touch my cart. Nor would I purchase a Yamaha, my Club car actually has 2 fuel filters and an oil filter.

davefin 09-19-2020 10:01 AM
I cannot imagine anyone in Florida requiring a multi-viscosity oil (10W30 or 10W40) in their golf cart. This is oil for cooler conditions. The 30W is fine.

biker1 09-19-2020 02:24 PM
I don't believe you understand the concept of a multi-viscosity oil. 10W-30 will flow better than straight 30 at below operating temperature and flow like straight 30 at operating temperatures (typically around 200+ F). There is no downside and only upside from a lubrication point of view. It does drop into the 20s (F) around here. Also, in the case of Yamaha, they recommend 10W-30. I don't believe in second guessing the people who designed the engine.

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Originally Posted by davefin (Post 1835449)
I cannot imagine anyone in Florida requiring a multi-viscosity oil (10W30 or 10W40) in their golf cart. This is oil for cooler conditions. The 30W is fine.

Topspinmo 09-25-2020 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1835283)
When did Yamaha start putting oil filters on their golf cart engines. At $12-13.00 a quart cost at the villages golf cart I’d never let them touch my cart. Nor would I purchase a Yamaha, my Club car actually has 2 fuel filters and an oil filter.
Walmart sells the same oil for $4 or 8 dollars If you get full syn. I would never purchase club car cheap flimsy front ends along with rest of frame, club cars don’t make the engine. Probably Kawasaki?

Bodean 09-25-2020 04:31 PM
Do you have a lawnmower with 2 or 3 wheels??

Topspinmo 09-25-2020 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1791279)
And Mobil1 10W40 is good in virtually anything you drive - all year long.

I would Not put it In engine that has VVT that requires 0w20. If you have VVT I would change the oil early rather than late.

biker1 09-25-2020 05:18 PM
You can buy Mobil 1 synthetic for about $3 per quart if you buy when they have a rebate.

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1838271)
Walmart sells the same oil for $4 or 8 dollars If you get full syn. I would never purchase club car cheap flimsy front ends along with rest of frame, club cars don’t make the engine. Probably Kawasaki?

PennBF 09-26-2020 05:55 AM
Just Funny
 
I took our Cart to the LSL garage for a once over and fix anything it needed. I received the bill, paid it and while walking out noted I was being charged for an oil change and engine tune up. I am as further as you can get from being a mechanic or anything near it but do know you don't change the oil on an electric cart and tune up the engine? I went back in and asked the Manager what was going on. He said he was terribly sorry and that the Mechanic just pulled the wrong code when filling out the forms? He adjusted the bill to account for the error. Net: Always check your bill!!:ho:


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