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Barefoot 11-08-2017 11:09 PM

We are transitioning on the weekend from electric to gas.
We are buying a gas Yamaha Quietech Yesteryear golf cart from Villages Golfcarts.
I hope it lives up to the promise of being quiet and fume free.

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Originally Posted by David73 (Post 1466692)
Do a little history research. There have been numerous fires caused by charging batteries in enclosed garages.

Fireboy has a passion for remote-control aircraft.
We had a garage fire in January as a result of FB charging a battery for one of his remote-controlled airplanes.

TechGC 11-09-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1472794)
I hope it lives up to the promise of being quiet and fume free.



Its not fume free

Steve9930 11-09-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1472794)
We are transitioning on the weekend from electric to gas.
We are buying a gas Yamaha Quietech Yesteryear golf cart from Villages Golfcarts.
I hope it lives up to the promise of being quiet and fume free.


Fireboy has a passion for remote-control aircraft.
We had a garage fire in January as a result of FB charging a battery for one of his remote-controlled airplanes.

Fires are a problem with those fancy Lithium Batteries. You must be extremely careful and do not over charge. They are spectacular when they fail.

Steve9930 11-09-2017 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothy (Post 1472779)
I was the OP and I chose the Tomberlin electric. Though it has only been two weeks since its delivery I have tried to find the reasonable dying point of a full charge. We are north of 466 and have travelled to all three squares including some at night with lights on and side trips in between and have yet to approach depletion of a full charge. Surely battery performance diminishes with age (happens to the best of us) but I truly cannot imagine ever being at risk of being stranded so long as I am as mindful of charge status as one would be of a fuel gauge. Fortunately a great feature on the Tomberlin is an integrated charger so if we ever do need a little extra juice on the road all we need is a standard three prong outlet. Lets face it, this is not a long term investment so replacing batteries is well worth the overall convenience and cleanliness of electric. Regarding the cart itself acceleration from a dead stop to top speed is seemingly instant. The cart looks good, my cart enclosure smells good (as does my garage), I hear my music clearly, and it is a nice responsive ride. Oh yeah, many features standard include four wheel brakes, seat belts, self-cancelling turn signals, auto parking brake, lights aplenty, et al. Admittedly it is early in our experience, but we did a lot of research, so far so good, and I wouldn't change my decision given the chance. Tim

Sounds like a winner. They do make a good cart at a reasonable price. You'll enjoy it.

graciegirl 11-09-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TechGC (Post 1472827)
Its not fume free


It is important to some of us to know that when we get into our cart to go places that it won't quit on us. Gas is more dependable.

Barefoot 11-09-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TechGC (Post 1472827)
Its not fume free

Do you have a new Yamaha QuieTech? I'm hoping that it's almost fume free.

Nucky 11-09-2017 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1473083)
Do you have a new Yamaha QuieTech? I'm hoping that it's almost fume free.

You will be

happier than a

clam at high

tide. Phenomenal Choice.

Lobster High Tide. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

doran 11-10-2017 02:45 AM

Columbia Par Car electric rules.

Barefoot 11-10-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1473111)
You will be

happier than a

clam at high

tide. Phenomenal Choice.

Thank you Nucky; good to hear. :highfive:

coffeebean 11-10-2017 11:21 PM

Oops. Double post....deleted.

coffeebean 11-10-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1465444)
The biggest downsides to electric carts: short distance vs. gas/slower up hills/replacing batteries every so often runs into the $100's of dollars. The quietness of electric is great...the newer gas carts(yamaha for sure/not sure about Par Cars or others)are much quieter.

I had a 2017 Yamaha Quiet Tech as a loaner when I had the annual service done on my 2016 Yamaha electric. I had a strong odor of gas in my garage after parking the gas cart. I don't have those air vents in my garage so maybe that is why the odor of gas did not dissipate.

Driving the loaner cart, I found it has a very slow sluggish acceleration vs the very rapid acceleration in my electric cart. I felt as though I was driving a Fred Flintstone vehicle in the 2017 Quiet Tech. It is just too sluggish of a start for me. My sister also has a 2017 Yamaha Quiet Tech and it accelerates the same way as my loaner.

As far as an electric cart going slower up hills; my electric Yamaha has an AC motor so it takes the hills just fine. I see maybe a .2 mph slow down going up hill. That isn't noticeable at all.

I don't play golf so I do understand the rationale for owning a gas cart now that The Villages is expanding. To be honest, if I had to travel really far to get from one end of The Villages to the other end, I would gladly take the car. But...as I said, I don't play golf.

coffeebean 11-10-2017 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1465446)
For all the above reasons (batteries $700 -800 every 3 or 4 years) we switched to Yamaha EFI. There is no smell/stink with EFI (VS carbearator machines).
And the all important factor of distance concerns eliminated.

I will gladly pay the price for new batteries when ever needed. To me, that is the price I am willing to pay for a smooth quiet ride with no odor. My sister has a 2017 Yamaha Quiet Tech gas cart and it does have an odor of gas. I smell it every time she leaves my driveway when I wave good bye to her.

coffeebean 11-10-2017 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=Topspinmo;1466565]....... it does cost and if does put out odor when charging ........

.......Over time the batteries will have to be replaced, once the batteries get some age on Them they may produce more liquid fog when charging which coats the cart and garage floor. It eats up metal, wiring, and concrete floors. Now you you have fight corrosion. [QUOTE]

Our 2016 electric Yamaha does not make any odor when charging. I have never heard of liquid fog when charging batteries. Does this happen on the newer electric carts? I had no idea this would be a problem. Yikes!

coffeebean 11-10-2017 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1466634)
From the previous owner I have the spot on the garage floor. Now for those who maintain the problems are minimum. But, lead acid batteries eventually causes corrosion, weaker the get more sulfuric acid H2SO4 vapor they produce. Which they release sulfuric acid, hydrogen, and sulfur dioxide. IMO when charging in garage there should be vent to alow fresh air while charging, window or garage door open some for vent if your smelling sulfur.

Are the garage door vents enough to prevent problems when charging batteries? I don't have any vents but will consider putting them in the garage door if necessary.

MorTech 11-11-2017 02:09 AM

Gasoline carts suck in every way except for range and "charge" time.

gas - 200 miles on a 3 minute "charge"
electric - charges at about 6 miles per hour...30 miles will require a 5 hour charge

Rohan Rec to Mulberry Grove Rec is 15 miles

Just the savings in fuel (gas is 4 cents per mile more over electric) and extra maintenance costs (only maintenance on electric cart - $3.00 per year for distilled water) will pay for a new set of batteries after 3 years (assuming 10 miles per day)...And the batteries will easily last 5 years if you keep them fully charged and water them monthly. I will race any gas cart up a hill. While your cart is bleating away, I will be at the top will gobs of torque and perfect silence. ALWAYS go for a cart with an AC motor!

If I were to buy a cart today, I would go with the Tomberlin LE. You will have 70 miles of range every time you leave your house and like me, will never even bother to look at the fuel gauge. Tomberlin will be much cheaper than the Yamaha AC from the villages or C&C


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