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JeepsterGlenn 07-02-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2111780)
The National Golf Car Manufacturers Association has stated that, “seat belts are more of a safety detriment to the occupant than beneficial.” It is the association’s position that a golf cart without seat belts affords the ability to “jump from a moving cart during a rollover event.”

Two concerns, golf carts designed for golf courses go much slower than the Villages versions so you might have time to jump out on a golf course but not on a road version.

Also you shouldn’t jump out of a golf cart unless you are wearing a motorcycle helmet!

jmpalladino 07-02-2022 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2111772)
The study by the Taylor & Francis Group compiled information about golf cart crashes in The Villages between 2011 and 2019. During the observation period, a total of 875 golf cart-related accidents occurred, representing an average of 136 crashes, 65 hospitalizations and nine dead or disabled annually. Of all crashes, 48 percent resulted in hospitalization, severe trauma or death. Of these, ejection occurred in 27 percent, hospitalization in 55 percent and death or disability in 15 percent of crashes.

“Virtually all death and disability occurred within the setting of golf carts used on streets or road pathways. Death and disability particularly due to ejection during golf cart crashes occur at an alarming rate when golf carts are used for local transportation,” the study’s authors wrote.

Thank you for making us aware of this and pointing out that the roadways vs the intermodal paths are where a significant amount of these accidents occur. Maybe the county commissioner will see this as an act in making the county roads that have both vehicles and golf cart traffic safe for golf carts. If they don't react and provide for true studies and action on the results of such studies, maybe they need to be voted out in the coming elections. Come on folks it is your lives that matter!

golfing eagles 07-02-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jmpalladino (Post 2112097)
Thank you for making us aware of this and pointing out that the roadways vs the intermodal paths are where a significant amount of these accidents occur. Maybe the county commissioner will see this as an act in making the county roads that have both vehicles and golf cart traffic safe for golf carts. If they don't react and provide for true studies and action on the results of such studies, maybe they need to be voted out in the coming elections. Come on folks it is your lives that matter!

A little closer examination: 9 years, 9 deaths (according to posts above). I remember at least 2 of them were when a cart turned directly in front of a car, and one where the car turned in front of the cart. So at least 3 were bonehead moves, probably most if not all.

So how exactly would one make these roads "safer". License cart drivers? Retest driver license renewals? Spend millions on a "true study" ?(whatever that is). Personally, I'd like to vote for the county commissioners that say no to this garbage and not try to fix stupidity on the part of drivers by throwing millions away trying to make the world safe. Unless the majority want big brother to run every aspect of their lives.

Boffin 07-02-2022 08:25 AM

And the Darwin Awards just keep on coming.

ldj1938 07-02-2022 09:32 AM

Seat belts
 
In my 22 year here I've seen three people ejected from a golf cart. One involved a man having some sort of seizure, hitting the curb and being ejected. Airlifted.

Two have involved husband making quick left turn and wife falling out and hitting the pavement. Very bad injuries in both instances. My wife, an RN, helped until the ambulance arrived.

WEAR A SEAT BELT.

HJBeck 07-02-2022 09:47 AM

Seat Belts
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2111778)
Why are seat belts not required?

Why are helmets not required? Guess they believe we are adults and don't need government telling us what to do. People get to make their choices, and just have to live with it.

Boffin 07-02-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HJBeck (Post 2112133)
Why are helmets not required? Guess they believe we are adults and don't need government telling us what to do. People get to make their choices, and just have to live with it.

Or die with it. It is their call.

Pgcacace 07-02-2022 11:21 AM

There was another golf cart death on Thursday on Morse Blvd. So sad.

Bill14564 07-02-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pgcacace (Post 2112163)
There was another golf cart death on Thursday on Morse Blvd. So sad.

Has that been reported as a death now?

jmpalladino 07-02-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2112100)
A little closer examination: 9 years, 9 deaths (according to posts above). I remember at least 2 of them were when a cart turned directly in front of a car, and one where the car turned in front of the cart. So at least 3 were bonehead moves, probably most if not all.

So how exactly would one make these roads "safer". License cart drivers? Retest driver license renewals? Spend millions on a "true study" ?(whatever that is). Personally, I'd like to vote for the county commissioners that say no to this garbage and not try to fix stupidity on the part of drivers by throwing millions away trying to make the world safe. Unless the majority want big brother to run every aspect of their lives.

I hope when you are driving on Morse Blvd. in your Golf Cart north of 466, very safely I might add, a truck does not come veering into you as they speed 45 miles an hour and sway into the cart and bike lane. FYI studies of traffic on county roads do not cost millions of dollars, if one does not know what the facts are one should not just make them up. Also, no one suggested that they wished big brother to run every aspect of one life, but rather government should ensure that roads are safe for all vehicles which travel on them. An example in Lake county, the roads are wider in the Villages on County roads where there are both vehicles and carts on roadways as compared to Sumter county. Stay safe my friend, and look at facts before you write in the future making statements that are not true, such as millions of dollars spent for a study are the safety of current county roadways in The Villages which are multi model.

Pairadocs 07-02-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2111795)
Okay, then it is a thoughtless excerpt or perhaps an excerpt to think about.

Excellent reply ! You can say that again, and AGAIN ! It's like the common phrase; "a study recently showed".... I don't think most people anymore have even the most basic introduction to the "research" process. Used to teach the basics beginning in 8th grade, in some places in 6th grade they begin to discuss variables, control groups, data manipulation, etc. The first question is WHO is Taylor & Francis ? A law firm ? A commercial survey service any company, from the association of golf cart manufacturers to an organization manufacturing seat belts ? HOW did they gather their "statistics" ? Were carts used ON golf courses across the nation included ? If not, HOW were the "control" and "experimental" groups selected ? WERE they selected, or perhaps they just relied on REPORTED "facts", if so, reported to WHO, and WHERE ? Emergency room personnel ? Police ? Well, you get the idea as you saw right through this at once. The whole post is absolutely meaningless....LOL ! I guess the answer is, if you think you would be safer strapped in, get seat belts of course, easy fix. If you fear getting a broken neck or other serious injury because of being strapped into an open vehicle that crashes, then definitely do not get belts, or don't fasten them if the cart has them. Pretty simple ! A really interesting "study", if conducted legitimately, might be how OPERATOR errors and SPEED affect percentage of "accidents", and like autos. alcohol ? Other drugs ? You are so correct, the information in the post in completely meaningless... unless maybe to places that sell seat belts ? Might motivate a few folks ?

Boffin 07-02-2022 04:38 PM

You cannot fix stupid. But, you can medicate it.

golfing eagles 07-02-2022 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jmpalladino (Post 2112235)
I hope when you are driving on Morse Blvd. in your Golf Cart north of 466, very safely I might add, a truck does not come veering into you as they speed 45 miles an hour and sway into the cart and bike lane. FYI studies of traffic on county roads do not cost millions of dollars, if one does not know what the facts are one should not just make them up. Also, no one suggested that they wished big brother to run every aspect of one life, but rather government should ensure that roads are safe for all vehicles which travel on them. An example in Lake county, the roads are wider in the Villages on County roads where there are both vehicles and carts on roadways as compared to Sumter county. Stay safe my friend, and look at facts before you write in the future making statements that are not true, such as millions of dollars spent for a study are the safety of current county roadways in The Villages which are multi model.

yada, yada, yada

Joe C. 07-02-2022 08:00 PM

Golf cart paths on the roads in Lady Lake are narrower than those in Sumter County. You will immediately notice this aberration if you drive down Rio Grande from Morse Blvd towards 441.
As soon as you cross the county line, the squeeze is on.

KennyP 07-03-2022 01:39 PM

Id like to see, injury or death when seat belts were being used. Many seat belt installations are done very poorly, so seeing that stat would be interesting.


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