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LoisR 08-02-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1811682)
You know you can have the speed adjusted right?

Sure. Raise the speed above 20 mph and loose your life savings in your first accident. Great idea.

JoMar 08-02-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1812073)
Sure. Raise the speed above 20 mph and loose your life savings in your first accident. Great idea.

Was only mentioned to correct misinformation, not a recommendation. I suspect most carts go faster than 20, gas adjusted by the dealers and the owners. Electric by dealers.

MorTech 08-02-2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1811598)
??? Our gas carts go plenty fast enough. And that is with the governor set at the legal speed limit. They are golf carts, not race cars.

Acceleration to 20 mph...not top speed.

MorTech 08-02-2020 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1811682)
You know you can have the speed adjusted right?

Not on the Yamaha AC, right?

MorTech 08-02-2020 11:29 PM

Does The Villages Golf Car still set top speed to 21.5 MPH?

JoMar 08-03-2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1812177)
Not on the Yamaha AC, right?

Don't know why not. It's up to the dealer, if it's like the other cart manufacturers it is a software adjustment. If you bought the cart and wanted it street legal they would adjust the speed so we know it can be done. If it's The Villages Golf carts might be refusing because they still want to sell gas.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-04-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1810881)
What is the pro-rated schedule for the warranty? Also, do you expect to keep the cart 8-10 years? I have two electrics and we change batteries every 3.5 years which is about 2K over 7 years, last check the ION batteries cost more than that. Maybe it changed. Unfortunately we seem to change carts every 5 - 6 years.

Yes, the cost more but they are also maintenance free. You pay for the convenience of not having to water your batteries every month. So if you want to save money, buy a cart with lithium ion batteries use it in place of your car as much as possible and keep it for ten years.

From what I understand they have a much greater range. One company was touting 100 miles on a charge.

So if those two things are of interest to you then they are worth it.

Also there is no need to trade in an electric golf cart every 5-6 years. Electric carts will basically run forever.

JoMar 08-04-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1812646)
Yes, the cost more but they are also maintenance free. You pay for the convenience of not having to water your batteries every month. So if you want to save money, buy a cart with lithium ion batteries use it in place of your car as much as possible and keep it for ten years.

From what I understand they have a much greater range. One company was touting 100 miles on a charge.

So if those two things are of interest to you then they are worth it.

Also there is no need to trade in an electric golf cart every 5-6 years. Electric carts will basically run forever.

I have maintenance free batteries and they are not lithium so not watering. I don't know anyone that will sit in a golf cart for 100 miles. I get 50 miles easily and if I do that distance my butt hurts, even with the good seats I have. Hillsborough to Hacienda Hills, 18 holes of golf and back was 24.5 miles. Not a bit effort to put a plug in the socket....I can do that :). Didn't say I need to trade carts every 5 - 6 years, just that I do. It's a new toy thing.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-05-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1812649)
I have maintenance free batteries and they are not lithium so not watering. I don't know anyone that will sit in a golf cart for 100 miles. I get 50 miles easily and if I do that distance my butt hurts, even with the good seats I have. Hillsborough to Hacienda Hills, 18 holes of golf and back was 24.5 miles. Not a bit effort to put a plug in the socket....I can do that :). Didn't say I need to trade carts every 5 - 6 years, just that I do. It's a new toy thing.

What kind of batteries do you have that are maintenance free and what is their cost compared to lithium ion?

leftyf 08-05-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1812649)
I have maintenance free batteries and they are not lithium so not watering. I don't know anyone that will sit in a golf cart for 100 miles. I get 50 miles easily and if I do that distance my butt hurts, even with the good seats I have. Hillsborough to Hacienda Hills, 18 holes of golf and back was 24.5 miles. Not a bit effort to put a plug in the socket....I can do that :). Didn't say I need to trade carts every 5 - 6 years, just that I do. It's a new toy thing.

How old are your batteries? Is this the first set of MF batteries you have had? Did you buy your cart with them?

I am getting ready to buy an electric cart and trying to decide which one.

C. C. Rider 08-05-2020 12:18 PM

I'm also interested in info on maintenance free golf cart batteries. I hate doing the maintenance on golf cart batteries. Acid bubbling out of the batteries, acid on top of the batteries, corrosion of terminals, the stink when charging the batteries, filling batteries to the proper level without overfilling, and all that stuff has just become a PITA to me. After doing that stuff for 3 different carts, I'm ready for something maintenance free while still being an electric cart. Not interested in gas carts.

JoMar 08-05-2020 01:38 PM

I have Trojan T105-AGM. The Star Dealer provided them when I bought the new cart last November. The cost was around 1,000.00 as I remember, more than the standard batteries but way less than lithium Ion. The only upside to the maintenance free is there is no watering or acid reflux :). There is no range advantage nor any longer life. Since I change carts every 5 - 6 years I assumed two battery change outs. One thing to consider if you go lithium ion is the warranty period and proration of cost. While they say they will last 10 years the full replacement warranty is significantly shorter after which the cost to replace is prorated on your usage. That might vary by manufacturer. I didn't see the value based on my buying schedule.

Biker Dog 08-06-2020 02:01 AM

EzGo Elite
 
The EzGo Elite are warranty 100% for 8 years. Own one and love it. Not cheap though.:coolsmiley:

MorTech 08-09-2020 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1812485)
Don't know why not. It's up to the dealer, if it's like the other cart manufacturers it is a software adjustment. If you bought the cart and wanted it street legal they would adjust the speed so we know it can be done. If it's The Villages Golf carts might be refusing because they still want to sell gas.

The Yamaha AC (Toyota) controller can only be adjusted via proprietary equipment that Yamaha or Toyota wont release...as far as I know. I was hoping you knew something different :) Navitas makes a bluetooth/smartphone app adjustable 440A controller that is a direct replacement for the Yamaha AC but it costs $800.

I suppose one could get the Yamaha factory 2 inch lift kit and put larger diameter tires on it.

The new Club Car Onward HP electric might be a better idea.

MorTech 08-09-2020 01:40 AM

For maintenance free electric without expense of Lithium...Check out the new Yamaha AC carts with Trojan T875-AGM battery option from the factory. The AGM batteries will last longer (more charge cycles) and can be discharged more deeply than Flooded. No watering...No charging stink...No corrosion.

Always choose an electric cart with an AC motor...They are more powerful and efficient and will never break.


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