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Redwood8300 12-21-2021 07:59 AM

Battery Cart
 
Look at an Atomic.
Atomic Cool Kartz

DavidStockhausen 12-21-2021 08:00 AM

Try Star Sirius at Crown Carts, independent ride for smooth ride, standard battery will go 50-60 miles per charge, 80-90 with Lithium upgrade

DaleDivine 12-21-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2041622)
I have one also, and when I back into the garage, I definitely get a little exhaust smell. Doesn't really faze me, but I can't deny its existence.

I'm sure if anyone pulls their car into the garage they can smell fumes as well. They just never pay any attention to it because they are used to it.
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

DaleDivine 12-21-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2041669)
Have had lead-acid golf carts in the past and will no longer get 1 of those. $1000 every 4-5 years to replace the batteries. Also, you need to check the water level in the batteries every quarter and these batteries start losing their range of charge as time passes.
If you want electric, lithium is the best choice for both maintenance and length of service and range. The big downside is paying $3000-$4,000 for a new set of lithium batteries every 7 years. If you are environment conscience, batteries of any kind are a major waste issue.
We just bought a new Yamaha drive2 gas cart and love it, quiet, no smell, 300+ mile range. The main maintenance you need to do is change the oil once a year and maybe adjust the valves. Down the road many many years from now, you will need an engine rebuild which is fairly cheap compared to replacing batteries

And then you got to think, Where are they dumping all these batteries after they die???

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

tophcfa 12-21-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2041687)
I'm sure if anyone pulls their car into the garage they can smell fumes as well. They just never pay any attention to it because they are used to it.
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

After using my diesel tractor, the two stroke chainsaws, weed wacker, and backpack leaf blower all summer and fall, the gas smell from the Yamaha golf cart in the winter is unnoticeable. It’s all relative.

Ski Bum 12-21-2021 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pedwards2932 (Post 2041628)
I have an electric Club Car and I can attest to the gas powered being smelly and loud. I don't think you smell or hear it as well if you are driving them. The other issues is almost everyone of the gas powered seem to be set to run 23 mph my electric runs 19 mph so you have to let the speedsters by a lot. One other thing is the pollution and the gas powered may eventually not be allowed:

A gas-powered golf cart with a 10.5 horsepower engine that operates for 2.5 hours each week emits 1474.2 pounds of CO2 each year, according to a study by Princeton University.

2.5 hours x 52 weeks = 130 hours So you are telling me it emits 11.34 pounds of CO2 an hour?

At 20 mph x 130 hours = 2600 miles / 40mpg = 65 gallons How do you get 22.67 pounds of CO2 per gallon?

G.R.I.T.S. 12-21-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2041554)
Depends upon where you live. If you live north of 44, electric will work. Our lead acid electric cart will get about 40 miles before the towing service needs calling. Gas has a much, much farther range. If you live south of 44, the golf courses are so far away, that gas is your only real option for going to LSL and getting back.

sorry to be the bearer of bad news if you live in Southern Oaks.

Ummm…Hate to break it to you but those living north of 44 actually manage to travel south, so wouldn’t a gas cart be recommended for them too? I’d suggest a gas cart to have access to all parts of the villages.

OhioBuckeye 12-21-2021 08:18 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by margevicius@gmail.com (Post 2041514)
New to TV -- coming down in January. In need of a golf cart. Interested in electric -- gas is too noisy and smelly for me and my bride. 2 options on electric - Lithium and lead-based. Lithium is preferred. Which makes/models are good? Initially interested in Evolution, but I realize that others like Club Car and EZ-GO exist. Can others share the good/bad/ugly of their experiences? TIA. And if you have/know of one for sale, drop me a PM, thanks.

I’ve always had a gas cart & I never ever smelled gas fumes & the Quiet Tech carts aren’t like the old style, beside the electric carts are great but I would drive my cart sometimes 50 to 70 miles. So just my personal selection I preferred the gas carts. There’s Pro’s & Con’s on both. A tank of gas would get me 240 miles. Electric would get you 45 to maybe 60 miles. (the new ones will)

srswans 12-21-2021 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2041691)
And then you got to think, Where are they dumping all these batteries after they die???

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Old lithium batteries will eventually be collected and wired together to create electricity storage facilities to backup solar/wind plants so we can get power after dark and when the wind isn’t blowing

pedwards2932 12-21-2021 08:30 AM

There is a core charge on lead acid and I believe they recycle the lead. You can argue the Princeton study but I suggest you either do the test yourself or talk with someone qualified to explain the research. Even if the study is not totally accurate you cannot deny there IS pollution from the exhaust of an internal combustion engine,

bilclif 12-21-2021 08:59 AM

I just bought a 2022 Star Sirius lithium golf cart from The Villages Golf Carts. They have inventory on hand, which is probably because these are new and a little pricey. I sold a 2010 Yamaha gas. I am enjoying all the advantages of lithium; quiet, no smell, no stops for gas, no battery maintenance. This cart has a built-in charger so you can bring cord with you and plug in anywhere. I played golf last week at Glenview which was a 30 mile round trip, including 18 holes, and the battery was at 50% when I got home.

frank1975 12-21-2021 09:04 AM

No smell to gas carts. In fact I never heard of that. If are planning to be out and about in your cart you'll regret getting battery. 80% of cart owners use gas.

nhtexasrn 12-21-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by margevicius@gmail.com (Post 2041514)
New to TV -- coming down in January. In need of a golf cart. Interested in electric -- gas is too noisy and smelly for me and my bride. 2 options on electric - Lithium and lead-based. Lithium is preferred. Which makes/models are good? Initially interested in Evolution, but I realize that others like Club Car and EZ-GO exist. Can others share the good/bad/ugly of their experiences? TIA. And if you have/know of one for sale, drop me a PM, thanks.

We have 2 Tomberlin electrics that we love. We have been all over TV and across 44 and back with no problem at all. Battery to spare. The actual range is about 50 miles. Ours aren't the lithium batteries but it's no problem to check the water. The Tomberlin dealer provided a quick filler system that's great. A friend has a Tomberlin lithium and loves it as well. He took it from village of Fenney to Spanish Springs and back. Still had battery. They are quiet and you sit up a little higher than other carts. Ours have power steering and seat belts. Check them out. Luxus Tomerberlin dealership is in Leesburg.

dewilson58 12-21-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2041693)
After using my diesel tractor, the two stroke chainsaws, weed wacker, and backpack leaf blower all summer and fall, the gas smell from the Yamaha golf cart in the winter is unnoticeable. It’s all relative.

As we all get older, there is always more gas.
Jus say'n.

:boom:

Joper 12-21-2021 09:36 AM

I was the first customer to test drive the Yamaha quiet tech when it arrived. My husband had a gas cart, I had electric. I was in the market for a new one. Once you have an electric cart, you still notice the slightly less noise and smell of gas. I bought a new electric. Whenever we went out as a couple my husband insisted we take my cart for quietness. I may be looking into the lithium also. Good luck!

SHIBUMI 12-21-2021 10:08 AM

Whatever you decide, arguments both ways, make sure you have the most comfortable seats. Your butts will thank you. El Tigre seats are best, not the makers seats. When electrics charge, they emit a gas. You need to make sure you air out garage in the morning. Golf courses with large electric fleets have to put exhaust fans in the building.
Good Luck!

Jhnidy 12-21-2021 10:34 AM

Come on down to Magnolia Plaza. I will take you to lunch in LSL using my evolution cart. And only use half the battery. Lithium is a game chnager.

UpNorth 12-21-2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frank1975 (Post 2041718)
No smell to gas carts. In fact I never heard of that. If are planning to be out and about in your cart you'll regret getting battery. 80% of cart owners use gas.

Just follow one in a tunnel. It will change your mind.

GpaVader 12-21-2021 10:52 AM

Neighbor and I both bought the Evolution from the Villages Discount and have been very happy with them. He drives his all over the place and I have yet to test the range of it, but it will happen... BTW we live in the Hammocks of Fenney so everything is a drive... My question is where do people South of the Turnpike buy gas for their golf cars? I know they are going to build a 7-11 in Magnolia Square and I thought another gas station on 301 and Warm Springs but I haven't seen anything yet.

Vermilion Villager 12-21-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2041629)
Now do the lithium battery….

‘Lithium-ion technology has downsides — for people and the planet. Extracting the raw materials, mainly lithium and cobalt, requires large quantities of energy and water. Moreover, the work takes place in mines where workers — including children as young as seven — often face unsafe conditions.‘

Battery-grade lithium can also be produced by exposing the material to very high temperatures — a process used in China and Australia — which consumes large quantities of energy.

Cobalt is an important part of a battery’s electrode, but around 70% of this element is found in just one country: the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). Around 90% of the DRC’s cobalt comes from its industrial mines (90,000 tonnes annually). But in a country where people earn, on average, less than $1,200 annually, the world’s demand for cobalt has attracted thousands of individuals and small businesses, called artisanal miners — and child labour and unsafe working practices are rife.

Oh and don't forget the cost of the lunch and it's effect on the planet to produce for all those miners that ate today!!! :ohdear:JESUS!! So...you want to go into what it takes to produce a gallon of gas??? I really don't think you want to go down the road....I can name 3800 people who died on 9-11 because of our dependence on that gallon of gas....AGAIN, you do not want to go down that road.

pattik 12-21-2021 10:58 AM

I strongly suggest you try a Yamaha Quiet Tech before you make your purchase. I bought a new 2022 Yamaha Quiet Tech cart and am very happy. It's quiet, not at all like my 2013 was. The new carts are a much nicer ride also. As far as availability, I ordered my new cart from The Villages Gordon's Garage in Lake Sumter Landing in June and got it in early November. I was given a loaner cart until my new cart arrived but I'm not sure they're still doing that. Good luck and welcome!

Vermilion Villager 12-21-2021 10:59 AM

The OP SPECIFICALLY asked about electric golf carts....says he DOESN'T WAS GAS!!!
Yet here we are reading posts from the gas cart lovers. This topic isn't for you...maybe sit this one out!!:welcome:

JMintzer 12-21-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhnidy (Post 2041661)
If you buy evolution, stay AWAY from village discount. They put in speed governors. 20 MPH does not sound bad until you realize that everybody else is traveling at a higher speed. If you would like to drive a 20 MPH you are welcome to try mine.

All shops put governors on their carts, set about 20 mph...

My gas Yamaha tops at 21, with a tailwind... I'm rarely passed...

Larchap49 12-21-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2041619)
Have gas Yamaha quiet tech, can’t smell it at all. Where does this smell supposed to come from?

Smell is only an issue if you but one with a rear seat, the rear seat passengers do get exhaust smell. Also long term the spark arrestor in the exhaust on the quietechs can plug up and cause driveability issues. Removing them causes the noise level to go up.

JMintzer 12-21-2021 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2041670)
This is off topic, but while not new to ToTV, I'm confused by posters simply typing "///" as a response. What does "///" mean?

The software doesn't allow you to completely delete a post. So when people want to delete a post, you must edit your post instead. All posts must have at least 3 characters, so people have adopted leaving /// as a way to "delete" their posts...

kathyspear 12-21-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2041650)
I am very happy with my Tomberlin electric cart. I can go 40 miles on a full charge using lead acid batteries. Mine is a 2019 model. Looks like a little jeep.

They are adorable!

kathy

golfing eagles 12-21-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 2041796)
They are adorable!

kathy

I agree. They're like a real golf cart's cute little sister :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

mrf0151 12-21-2021 12:50 PM

Engine rebuild? Like no sooner than 20 some years on these Yamaha motors.

lauron57 12-21-2021 01:05 PM

Yamaha and convert to Lithium.
Since Yamaha came out with the Drive2 carts, I've had 3 new ones, both electric and gas. I would suggest a Yamaha Drive2/AC electric, new or used. If it doesn't give you the range you want, swap out the batteries with a RoyPow Lithium. Surprising, I had no problem selling my used acid batteries on Craigslist. Extremely easy to install this unit. I have the middle of the three sizes they offer. My 105ah battery and charger was about $2700 delivered. It also came with an "install kit" specific to my cart. I can get 50-60 miles easy @ 19-20mph - which is the max with Yamaha electric stock controller. If you want to match (or exceed) the 24-26 mph that a lot of the gas carts go, just bolt on an upgraded controller. The RowPow only takes up half the space under the seat, so you could even mount the charger on-board and carry a standard extension cord to charge anywhere you can find an outlet! Oh... almost forgot to mention that my cart is now 400 lbs lighter too! (I had 8 - 6V batteries @ 62lbs each, new unit is 95lbs). No, I don't sell this stuff nor am I a paid endorser, I'm just mechanical, like to tinker with things and help people. Msg me if you want details.

unialimon 12-21-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2041701)
Old lithium batteries will eventually be collected and wired together to create electricity storage facilities to backup solar/wind plants so we can get power after dark and when the wind isn’t blowing

I'm sure NYC will be all over this idea. With no natural gas they will need it.

JMintzer 12-21-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2041701)
Old lithium batteries will eventually be collected and wired together to create electricity storage facilities to backup solar/wind plants so we can get power after dark and when the wind isn’t blowing

They'll used dead lithium batteries, that no longer hold a charge, to store electricity?

OhioBuckeye 12-22-2021 10:49 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by frank1975 (Post 2041718)
No smell to gas carts. In fact I never heard of that. If are planning to be out and about in your cart you'll regret getting battery. 80% of cart owners use gas.

I totally agree with you but if someone has an electric cart there’s no way we’ll convince them otherwise. Just like like us gas cart owners. The only thing electric cart owners don’t tell you how much to replace their batteries, I’m sure they’ll say something real low. But I say drive what you want, they’re both good. Even the dealer will tell you gas carts are better, but buy what you want! My first gas cart I had, had 26, 387 miles on it when I traded it.

Jean G 12-23-2021 10:50 AM

If you purchase 2017 or newer they are not noisy. If you keep the back flap closed you will not have the odor

JMintzer 12-23-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean G (Post 2042384)
If you keep the back flap closed you will not have the odor

Sage advice with or without a golf cart! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

triflex 12-23-2021 02:23 PM

If the lithium batteries would go 125 miles on a charge to offset the degradation on charging capacity, I'd buy lithium. Even Teslas lose 10% of their range and become more finicky with charging by 100,000 miles.

IMO, only Tesla will survive in the EV world. The other Johnny-Come-Latelys are going to fail because because batteries are still not advanced enough to replace over 100 years of ICE know-how.

I have a Yamaha on order and I know I won't need to worry about the things battery getting thin on me on several levels.

If Toyota's solid-state battery research makes a reliable 10 -minute charge possible then those cells would likely cause me to switch to an EV golf cart. I own two electric bikes and I also owned an electric skateboard (lol) and if anything goes wrong with the battery I would have no idea how to fix it or find someone to fix it other than the factory.

triflex 12-23-2021 02:25 PM

If the lithium batteries would go 125 miles on a charge to offset the degradation on charging capacity, I'd buy lithium. Even Teslas lose 10% of their range and become more finicky with charging by 100,000 miles.

IMO, only Tesla will survive in the EV world. The other Johnny-Come-Latelys are going to fail because because batteries are still not advanced enough to replace over 100 years of ICE know-how.

I have a Yamaha on order and I know I won't need to worry about the things battery getting thin on me on several levels.

I have two electric bike's and did own an electric skateboard (lol).

Tbrazie 12-23-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by margevicius@gmail.com (Post 2041514)
New to TV -- coming down in January. In need of a golf cart. Interested in electric -- gas is too noisy and smelly for me and my bride. 2 options on electric - Lithium and lead-based. Lithium is preferred. Which makes/models are good? Initially interested in Evolution, but I realize that others like Club Car and EZ-GO exist. Can others share the good/bad/ugly of their experiences? TIA. And if you have/know of one for sale, drop me a PM, thanks.

Evolution and very happy. Lithium and hate those stinky gas carts. Especially in the tunnels

jbartle1 12-24-2021 01:06 PM

There is the "cute" factor that also must be considered, sooooo, we bought an electric Yesteryear, which uses 6 Trojan batteries that last approx. 5 years, cost was $750, might be higher now, and quiet (unless you need to use the adorable, giggle, horn)

Papa_lecki 12-24-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2042103)
I totally agree with you but if someone has an electric cart there’s no way we’ll convince them otherwise. Just like like us gas cart owners. The only thing electric cart owners don’t tell you how much to replace their batteries, I’m sure they’ll say something real low. But I say drive what you want, they’re both good. Even the dealer will tell you gas carts are better, but buy what you want! My first gas cart I had, had 26, 387 miles on it when I traded it.

Using the internet to convince an electric cart owner that gas is superior or vice versa is like using the internet to argue politics.
No one is changing their mind because of an internet post.

cj1040 12-25-2021 09:07 AM

Lithium on order...6 mos.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by margevicius@gmail.com (Post 2041514)
New to TV -- coming down in January. In need of a golf cart. Interested in electric -- gas is too noisy and smelly for me and my bride. 2 options on electric - Lithium and lead-based. Lithium is preferred. Which makes/models are good? Initially interested in Evolution, but I realize that others like Club Car and EZ-GO exist. Can others share the good/bad/ugly of their experiences? TIA. And if you have/know of one for sale, drop me a PM, thanks.

We ordered a lithium EZ Go from Villages golf cars in Brownwood early October. It should be here end of March or early April. We got a loaner after 2 months but they are ending that program. We had been interested in the Star Car but the steering is very hard to turn, glove compartment hard to open, not a very nice dash board compared to the EZ Go. The welding is rough and messy at the joints...reminded me of farm equipment....we ruled out gas due to noise, smell, and nuisance of buying gas, and maintaining. Electric was ruled out as we go north for a month or more and batteries can dry out. We will enjoy our EZ Go!


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