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jimhoward 12-04-2024 09:15 AM

If I want to get somewhere fast, and it is distant enough that speed matters, I just take my car.

LieutenantEd 12-04-2024 09:54 AM

Electric Cart above 20mp
 
The other day a Star cart passed me on Hillsborough Road, I’m going 19-20 mph in cart lane (according to GPS) . The female driver was holding an infant!!!!! ( not a dog) in her left arm, steering with her right arm, her passing speed was certainly 25++ mph. Absolutely amazed beyond comprehension until the next time it happens here in TV. I said a prayer for the baby!

Enzo1943 12-04-2024 09:56 AM

Star golf carts
 
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Originally Posted by Vinscalese (Post 2390600)
I am curious , can the STAR Sirius be “tuned up” to go above 20mph like you can the Yamaha Gas?

Tune it up to 30 mph, then you can ignore stop signs faster. If more speed is your thing, drive a car.

BrianL99 12-04-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2390786)
Majority do take class it called driver license.

35 out of 50 States do not require any classes for a Driver's License.

Bill14564 12-04-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2390839)
35 out of 50 States do not require any classes for a Driver's License.

How many of those 35 states (or all 50 states if you prefer) require a certification (license) before being allowed to drive?

Thankfully, we don't (yet) have a requirement for a driver's license for golf carts and no requirements for classes either. However, given some of the questions and comments here, many would clearly benefit from attending such a class.

DrHitch 12-04-2024 11:22 AM

Interesting replies to this thread.....

I worked for the company that developed the speed controllers for Walmart handicap scooters. Sure, we could tweak the software to make the carts drive 20MPH, but WHY?......

Doing so, is downright dangerous for the intended application. The same holds true for "golf" carts in The Villages. To answer the OP question, yes, all PWM electric controllers can be tuned with the proper programming.

The LARGER question here is the subject of separating cart speed limits on public roads vs speed limits on multi-modal paths...I suggest the powers that be focus on speed limit citations on the paths, with less emphasis on speeding in the cart lanes on roadways.

jimjamuser 12-04-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2390607)
Probably, but you now own an illegal Low Speed vehicle, and if you have an accident your "golf cart insurance" may not cover you if the insurance company finds out. We leave a few minutes early in our Yamaha golf cart.
Remember golf carts are designed to go 15 MPH by the manufacturer, pushing to 20 MPH is as far as I am willing to go.

I agree and wish there was more Police enforcement to make sure that everyone had the same 20 MPH maximum. That would mean less dangerous passing (on blind curves) and fewer accidents.

jimjamuser 12-04-2024 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2390684)
All I know is there are a LOT of golf carts that exceed 20 mph.

Exactly TRUE. Everyone KNOWS this. Yet the question is .....WHY is there so little law enforcement emphasis on this. it causes accidents and injuries. And if an 80 year old person is thrown out of a Golf car they could get permanent injuries.

jimjamuser 12-04-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by talonip (Post 2390759)
Yes up to 23. I bought mine 3 years ago. I was asked if I wanted to set the 23 speed. Yes. It goes 24 all day long and I still get passed all the time

More confirmation about how serious this problem is. Gasoline golf cars have a higher center of gravity than Electric golf cars so they are likely to turn over easier. And a high center of gravity makes stopping more difficult.

jimjamuser 12-04-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 2390788)
You are exactly spot on as usual. Unfortunately many people choose to ignore the law. We have also kept ours at 20mph. I don’t understand what the hurry is with these carts going 25 or 30 mph.

I don't think that the people are REALLY in a hurry. It is the CHEAP THRILL of passing another golf car and feeling superior. Basically it would be something that maybe some retired psychologist could study and write a paper about. I would be glad to hear the RATIONALIZATIONS as to what the "need for speed"is in such mundane activities as driving around The Villages. They can't all be heart surgeons racing to get to an operation at a hospital.

Justputt 12-04-2024 12:49 PM

Yes, they can be tuned up. I recently had service done on a new cart at TV and I was asked if I was happy with the speed (topped out at 21-22 mph, as purchased). I said it would be nice to bump it if it weren't illegal. I was told they could bump it to 24 mph, so I said sure since it was only a couple mph. They sent me a waiver, and my eyes went directly to the area in bold yellow that was the expected liability waiver for TV for bumping it. What I did not read at the time was the first unhighlighted paragraph that basically what they were doing wasn't necessarily legal!!! I wrongly assumed the important stuff was the highlighted parts, and I was WRONG! Even if I have them turn it back to 21-22, I suspect they'll want to keep the waiver I signed. I'm assuming that any citation will be for what I do and not what I can do. e.g. My truck will go 120 mph, but I only get a ticket for going over the posted limit and not what the truck is capable of doing.

Bill14564 12-04-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2390873)
Yes, they can be tuned up. I recently had service done on a new cart at TV and I was asked if I was happy with the speed (topped out at 21-22 mph, as purchased). I said it would be nice to bump it if it weren't illegal. I was told they could bump it to 24 mph, so I said sure since it was only a couple mph. They sent me a waiver, and my eyes went directly to the area in bold yellow that was the expected liability waiver for TV for bumping it. What I did not read at the time was the first unhighlighted paragraph that basically what they were doing wasn't necessarily legal!!! I wrongly assumed the important stuff was the highlighted parts, and I was WRONG! Even if I have them turn it back to 21-22, I suspect they'll want to keep the waiver I signed. I'm assuming that any citation will be for what I do and not what I can do. e.g. My truck will go 120 mph, but I only get a ticket for going over the posted limit and not what the truck is capable of doing.

Who knows what will happen but that is not how the law reads. The law specifies a limit on how fast the cart is capable of going whether it is actually moving or not.

Yes, of course, the law only matters if an officer chooses to stop you and determines there is a concern - not very likely but it can happen.

jimjamuser 12-04-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2390873)
Yes, they can be tuned up. I recently had service done on a new cart at TV and I was asked if I was happy with the speed (topped out at 21-22 mph, as purchased). I said it would be nice to bump it if it weren't illegal. I was told they could bump it to 24 mph, so I said sure since it was only a couple mph. They sent me a waiver, and my eyes went directly to the area in bold yellow that was the expected liability waiver for TV for bumping it. What I did not read at the time was the first unhighlighted paragraph that basically what they were doing wasn't necessarily legal!!! I wrongly assumed the important stuff was the highlighted parts, and I was WRONG! Even if I have them turn it back to 21-22, I suspect they'll want to keep the waiver I signed. I'm assuming that any citation will be for what I do and not what I can do. e.g. My truck will go 120 mph, but I only get a ticket for going over the posted limit and not what the truck is capable of doing.

Good point. I imagine that is the reason that the Police have trouble controlling the practice of setting the top speed of Golf cars over 20 MPH. They can't ticket you for having the POTENTIAL to go over 20 MPH. They have to actually CATCH you speeding with a speed gun.
.........Still that doesn't seem beyond the capability of Police - to set up speed traps for Golf cars. Maybe the Police have been told (by some authority) to go easy on Golf Cars (and let them go at whatever speed they want). Maybe because Golf Cars have become some kind of symbol of The Villages life style. That is probably the answer, but it flies in the face of the NEED to PROTECT The Villagers from harm from accidents. That becomes a philosophic dilemma !!!!!!!

Indydealmaker 12-04-2024 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinscalese (Post 2390600)
I am curious , can the STAR Sirius be “tuned up” to go above 20mph like you can the Yamaha Gas?

You advertise publicly that you want to break the law?

BrianL99 12-04-2024 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2390869)
I don't think that the people are REALLY in a hurry. It is the CHEAP THRILL of passing another golf car and feeling superior. Basically it would be something that maybe some retired psychologist could study and write a paper about. I would be glad to hear the RATIONALIZATIONS as to what the "need for speed"is in such mundane activities as driving around The Villages. They can't all be heart surgeons racing to get to an operation at a hospital.

Is it somehow different than going 75 on a highway with a 65 MPH speed limit?


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