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me4vt 08-22-2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128253)
Any negatives of adjusting the governor on a 2022 gas Yamaha Drive2, increasing the top speed from the factory set19 mph to 22 mph?
Will it effect drivability at lower speeds?
Asking for a friend, lol.


rsmurano 08-22-2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2128284)
I have not verified it, but I was "told" the newer (EFI) carts could not be adjusted above 20 mph, which is where ours is set. IMHO, I would check with your insurance as well as the sheriff, as you may find out you have NO coverage in case of an accident, lots of fines and tickets, and possibly no warranty. We simply leave a couple of minutes early and arrive on time.

Not true! I know quite a few people that have taken them past 25 mph. The higher amounts need multiple changes done but their carts run fine according to them.
As for running the cart faster than 20mph, the cart runs very smooth, like a sewing machine with no issues of drive ability at 5mph to max speed. The dealers can adjust the mph up but you need to sign a document.

RiderOnTheStorm 08-22-2022 06:45 AM

A related comment: I have been told that investigators can and have checked the maximum speed setting on a golf cart after an accident in which speed was thought to be a factor. Determining where yours is set could be used against you in the unlikely event of such an accident. Just something to be aware of.

rrtjp 08-22-2022 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eltigremike (Post 2128520)
We purchased a used 2017 Club Car that had a 17mph max speed. The wife had a company change the Governor to 22mph. At slower speeds, while trying to hold a steady speed, the cart would jerk and buck like a racehorse. So in our case, it did effect the slower speed driving. We took the cart to The Villages GolfCart in Spanish Springs and they fixed the issue. We do not have a speedometer, but the cart does work fine now at approx. 22mph top end.

What was the problem and how did they fix it from bucking?

jimkerr 08-22-2022 06:46 AM

You can turn it up without issue. All you do is turn that bolt like you’re tightening it and you’re set!

MidWestIA 08-22-2022 06:50 AM

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22 is pretty common you will still get passed seems most people are 24. BIG $ ticket if police catch you going 25 on a street but I've heard your insurance may balk if they can prove you set to over 20 so put it back down before you let them see it.

will1546 08-22-2022 07:03 AM

I do not think so.

Black Beauty 08-22-2022 07:16 AM

slow down!

MandoMan 08-22-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.

No, it won’t affect drivability. Lots of new golf carts are set to 22 when you buy them. That way, when you are on a bit of a hill, they keep up.

jimbo2012 08-22-2022 07:27 AM

If you're doing 20mph, you'll be passed every few minutes, I was in a friends cart doing 24 on his speedo, we were passed several times they may have been doing 30mph.

Happens every day

phousel 08-22-2022 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.


It will not effect low speed drivability.
It may (will) affect your warranty though.

lawgolfer 08-22-2022 07:40 AM

The answer in NO, but that's not the real issue
 
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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128253)
Any negatives of adjusting the governor on a 2022 gas Yamaha Drive2, increasing the top speed from the factory set19 mph to 22 mph?
Will it effect drivability at lower speeds?
Asking for a friend, lol.

Increasing the maximum speed will have no effect on drivability at low speeds. Quite to the contrary, it can greatly affect it at high speeds. I suggest you leave it at the factory setting for several months, and, only then, increase the speed to 21-22 mph.

Golf carts are inherently unstable. The are top heavy; have a short wheelbase; and, a narrow track. In short, they turn over easily and faster than you can react. Any golfer can tell you stories about carts overturning at speeds far lower than 19 mph when the driver makes a sharp turn. They will overturn just as easily on the streets and paved paths throughout The Villages. In the last year, I have witnessed two carts overturned at the tunnel under Morse at its intersection with CR 466. The approach to the tunnel seems to have a steeper slope than others in TV and the drivers failed to slow before initiating the 90 deg turn.

Also, spend a few extra dollars for seats with armrests on the outside and for seatbelts, and use the seatbelts. It's no fun to be thrown out of a cart when the driver makes an unexpected sharp turn on the golf course and injury can result. On a paved path or a street, it can be deadly.

Berwin 08-22-2022 08:07 AM

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My Club Car golf cart has a warning sticker stating it does not conform to safety standards because it is capable of exceeding 15 MPH.

bark4me 08-22-2022 08:53 AM

No, it won't affect anything. Easy to do. Just look it up on YouTube. Enjoy

mikeycereal 08-22-2022 08:53 AM

My loaner is set at 19. Before I got it I rode shotgun with a friend who had his set at 23. I could feel a difference and want mine to be set higher, which the cart company said they could do once my new one comes in. I didn't notice a problem when he slowed down. For a lot of us, the extra speed comes in handy on straightaways and if you need to easily pass others who are going slow, long before any cart on the opposite path side comes closer.

For that one story here, if you were parked or stopped and someone hit you why would insurance ask if yours was set higher? I really doubt the insurance dings you if you weren't at fault anyways. But if you're a bad driver then it'll be inevitable.

Saw one cart make a dumb move this weekend, passing a slow bike through solid line over bridge just missing oncoming carts on opposite side. If you're gonna go higher remember to still drive carefully. Just because you can now pass, those solid lines are usually there around curves and blind spots to prevent accidents. Also watch your speed on those curves. You really don't want to flip the cart and mess up your body.

Saw another cart whip it through the front of a Publix this weekend too. When taking that parking lot route most people expect to stop or at least slow down in that area because of people walking in and out of the front of the store. Some other drivers just don't get it. With great cart power comes greater responsibility.

As for increasing my speed, same as a car. I'm not gonna go max speeding all over, but that little bit extra is there should I need it. Pedal to the metal only going 19 just feels like a tortoise.

Samcat13 08-22-2022 08:53 AM

My 2021 Ezgo Electric is set at 22 when I got it from the Villages. Pass many police and no ticket. My last kart was a Yamaha gas and set at 26. One ticket cost me over $350 total. This ticket was not for speeding. Operating a Motor Vehicle with out a Registration.

bark4me 08-22-2022 08:55 AM

If traveling along a state or municipal road, yes you could receive a citation if you go over 20 mph and don't have your cart registered as a "Slow Moving" vehicle. However on the cart path you're good.

dshoberg 08-22-2022 09:19 AM

IMO….Think it runs better
 
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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.

I have not seen any decrease in performance, in fact I think it runs better

MrFlorida 08-22-2022 09:27 AM

One of my neighbors had a cart repair company come out and adjust his gov. to make it run faster, however it did affect his low speed where it would buck and jerk at low speeds, he had the guy come back and set it back where it was....your mileage may vary.

loufromnewjersey 08-22-2022 09:34 AM

I have a ‘19 EFI and the Villages Gplf dealer set it for me at 23mpg so if I am going to take anyone’s advice it would be the dealer’s

Rich42 08-22-2022 09:42 AM

If you bought your cart from the Villages cart store and you take it in for service and they see that you have strapped it for the additional speed, you can kiss your Warranty goodbye. Additionally if you happen to be in an accident and they determine that your cart is strapped for the additional speed I would guess the insurance company would not cover any injuries or damage.

MCJEFE 08-22-2022 09:44 AM

As others have said anything over 19.5 mph is technically a LSV Low Speed Vehicle and must be licensed and insured or your subject to a citation. Most vehicles sold around the Villages are set to 19.5 mph and then they change from 18" tires to 20" 205/65-10 tires which increases the top speed to around 22 mph. The biggest risk to adjusting the governor is speeding tickets and blowing the plastic ring gear which is around $1,200 parts and labor.

jimbo2012 08-22-2022 09:51 AM

According to Florida Statute § 320.01(42), an LSV is any four-wheel vehicle with a top speed that can travel faster than 20 miles per hour but less than 25. Essentially, an LSV occupies the space between golf carts and automobiles.

Meanwhile, Florida Statutes § 320.01(22) defines a golf cart as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.”

This can be interpreted to mean 20 on the golf course 25 else ware????

W.deegan@sbcglobal.net 08-22-2022 10:30 AM

I have the same cart and it has been set higher. I see no adverse effects. Just had it serviced. The tech said it’s in great shape, no issues

Rainger99 08-22-2022 11:11 AM

Guidelines for LSV (Low Speed Vehicle)

Reaches speeds of 20 MPH to 25 MPH.
Has a vehicle identification number (VIN)
Headlamps
Front and rear turn signals
Taillamps
Stop lamps
Reflex reflectors, red – one on each side and one on the rear
Exterior mirror on the driver side and an interior mirror or exterior mirror on passenger side
Parking brake
Windshield
Seatbelt for each designated seat
Not be operated on any roadway with a speed limit above 35 mph.

Any person operating a low-speed vehicle (LSV) must have in their possession a valid driver license. An LSV must also be registered and insured with Personal Injury Protection and Property Damage Liability.

Rodneysblue 08-22-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.

Drivability does not change at slower speeds according to my friend, they did say to watch the cornering at the new speed. At least that’s what my friend said. 😉

Garywt 08-22-2022 02:59 PM

Once my warranty was up I gave the gas pedal cable a couple turns and everything is the same except top speed increased. At 18-19 mph I would get lines behind me and going up a hill it would be slower than 18 mph. Just to be curious to those behind me I felt I should at least be able to go the speed limit. Whether in a car or cart I feel that everyone’s responsibility is to keep traffic moving.

wisbad1 08-22-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128253)
Any negatives of adjusting the governor on a 2022 gas Yamaha Drive2, increasing the top speed from the factory set19 mph to 22 mph?
Will it effect drivability at lower speeds?
Asking for a friend, lol.

Wow! Did you get some weird responses. What a zoo, can’t tell you how fast mine goes, too many blabbing no it alls. Lol

rrtjp 08-23-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeycereal (Post 2128577)
My loaner is set at 19. Before I got it I rode shotgun with a friend who had his set at 23. I could feel a difference and want mine to be set higher, which the cart company said they could do once my new one comes in. I didn't notice a problem when he slowed down. For a lot of us, the extra speed comes in handy on straightaways and if you need to easily pass others who are going slow, long before any cart on the opposite path side comes closer.

For that one story here, if you were parked or stopped and someone hit you why would insurance ask if yours was set higher? I really doubt the insurance dings you if you weren't at fault anyways. But if you're a bad driver then it'll be inevitable.

Saw one cart make a dumb move this weekend, passing a slow bike through solid line over bridge just missing oncoming carts on opposite side. If you're gonna go higher remember to still drive carefully. Just because you can now pass, those solid lines are usually there around curves and blind spots to prevent accidents. Also watch your speed on those curves. You really don't want to flip the cart and mess up your body.

Saw another cart whip it through the front of a Publix this weekend too. When taking that parking lot route most people expect to stop or at least slow down in that area because of people walking in and out of the front of the store. Some other drivers just don't get it. With great cart power comes greater responsibility.

As for increasing my speed, same as a car. I'm not gonna go max speeding all over, but that little bit extra is there should I need it. Pedal to the metal only going 19 just feels like a tortoise.

My thoughts exactly. The speed is there if My friend needs it. But he will still drive carefully and responsibly.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-23-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.

No it won't effect the drivablity. It might affect stopping ability minimally.

It seems silly to think that 2-3 mph over the limit wouldn't get you into trouble and in most cases it won't. But if you get into an accident and it's found that your cart is capable of going over 20 mph you'd get cited for driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle. There might be additional citations for not having the proper safety equipment that is required on an LSV.

The question I have is why are those carts set to go only up to 19mph when the legal limit is 20mph?

One thing that I think of is how accurate are these speedometers. I have an eight month old EZGO with the digital speedometer/computer. It usually registers 21mph and occasionally jumps up to 22mph. Is that speedometer accurate to 1-2mph? Does the dealer that I bought it from have some liability if there is a problem?

EddieUA 08-23-2022 09:05 AM

Just go 19 and use the extra speed for passing. 24 mph might come in handy in tight situations. Maybe go faster when in remote areas when you need to get to a tee off time. Take it easy around crowded areas. We are growing fast here in The Villages. Maybe suggest The Villages makes a toll golf cart road (no walking or biking) with limited access with a top speed of 25 which will not harm the golf cart or effect the lower speeds.

Mrfriendly 08-24-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2128463)
My electric cart maxes out at 20mph. Can't go any faster unless going downhill, when the speed controller cuts in to slow it back down. Yet, I constantly get tail-gaited and passed by gas carts going well above 20mph. If the local police wanted to make a ton of money in The Villages, all they would need to do is to put in a few speed traps, and hand out tickets for unregistered motor vehicles. There is no reason to pass me in a golf cart if I am going 20mph.

Mr. / Ms. or Mrs. Police-person, you did not just read that! :cool:

RobertG 08-24-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128273)
For 3 mph over the speed limit? Lol.
Not what I asked. All I wanted to know is if it will effect drivability at lower speeds. Thanks anyways. I was doing 17mph yesterday and was getting passed by several other carts like I was standing still. So I got to assume the carts passing me made an adjustment to their cart. I’m never in a hurry to go anywhere just curious if messing with the carts governor would effect overall drivability. Again thanks for the legal advice.

To answer your question "NO" it will not affect your lower speed.

TSO/ISPF 08-24-2022 06:29 PM

gps speedometer
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2128832)
No it won't effect the drivablity. It might affect stopping ability minimally.

It seems silly to think that 2-3 mph over the limit wouldn't get you into trouble and in most cases it won't. But if you get into an accident and it's found that your cart is capable of going over 20 mph you'd get cited for driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle. There might be additional citations for not having the proper safety equipment that is required on an LSV.

The question I have is why are those carts set to go only up to 19mph when the legal limit is 20mph?

One thing that I think of is how accurate are these speedometers. I have an eight month old EZGO with the digital speedometer/computer. It usually registers 21mph and occasionally jumps up to 22mph. Is that speedometer accurate to 1-2mph? Does the dealer that I bought it from have some liability if there is a problem?

Just put an app on your phone to verify speed. See how the app compares to the speedometer in your car. Ulysee has a good one.

KennyP 08-27-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MCJEFE (Post 2128600)
The biggest risk to adjusting the governor is speeding tickets and blowing the plastic ring gear which is around $1,200 parts and labor.

You were given a line with that one

GatorFan 08-27-2022 05:52 PM

No Comparison
 
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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2128415)
I adjusted mine. It only took about 10 minutes. No effect on anything other than my ability to go faster when I want to pass that guy going 16 MPH.

The pundits on here assume that just because you Can go 23 you have too. My car will go 110 MPH but I control the speed with the gas pedal. Rumor has it that you can do the same in a golf cart.

An auto comes out of the factory with the ability to go at high speeds. The motor vehicle laws determine what max speed one is suppose to drive in a motor vehicle depending on what road you are driving.

A golf cart is not a motor vehicle by law. Out of factory, it has a max speed limit and the law states that max speed is less than 20 mph. If the speed is adjusted to go over 20, you broke the law and no longer drive a golf cart by law. Your insurance policy is actually voided because you committed fraud by signing contract stating it was a golf cart.

frose 08-27-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2128253)
Any negatives of adjusting the governor on a 2022 gas Yamaha Drive2, increasing the top speed from the factory set19 mph to 22 mph?
Will it effect drivability at lower speeds?
Asking for a friend, lol.

Besides the governor you can change the gear ratio, the clutch tension and tire size. Go fast Hope you have a great time. I’ve seen what happens to the human body in a golf cart wreck. Another house for sale. Leave it alone and enjoy the ride.

Bilyclub 08-31-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by frose (Post 2130508)
Besides the governor you can change the gear ratio, the clutch tension and tire size. Go fast Hope you have a great time. I’ve seen what happens to the human body in a golf cart wreck. Another house for sale. Leave it alone and enjoy the ride.

Most of the wrecks are from turning into the path of oncoming cars, not speed. I can think of two in that last few years that might have been speed. The guy who ran into the sign at Seabreeze was one. The other was at the tunnel by Lake Miona Rec Center, but that was probably due to the guy flying downhill into the tunnel and taking the turn too fast which could happen without adjusting the governor.


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