Trojan Trillium Lithium Conversion

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Trojan has new 12V Group 27 drop-in lithium LiFePO replacement batteries. 4x12V/1400Whr = 48V/5600Whr. You will need a charger that is capable of AGM charging or one that is programmable like Lester Summit 2 1050W or Delta-Q QuiQ 1500. >5000 charge cycles and most likely >8000 charge cycles to 70% of original capacity. These are true zero-maintenance lifetime batteries.

Expensive but maybe worth it to some.

https://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/da...m_12.8-110.pdf
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Have been trying to find a distributor and price, but B Boys & Masters have no info or price. Was told 6 months ago they would be available in Dec, still waiting.
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I think they are only just starting to be available. Tomberlin is the first to use them.

I like the max charge current! Full charge from 0-100% in a little over an hour! About 50 miles of range! No doubt charging at that rate will eat into your # of charge cycles...but they are abundant.
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I think they are only just starting to be available. Tomberlin is the first to use them.

I like the max charge current! Full charge from 0-100% in a little over an hour! About 50 miles of range! No doubt charging at that rate will eat into your # of charge cycles...but they are abundant.
Do you have a price quote for 4 with a charger???
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No quote but ~$4k for batteries and QuiQ 1500 charger ~$500 with cart plug cable = $4500.

The charger is max 48v/25A at 110v and 48v/30A at 220v.
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No quote but ~$4k for batteries and QuiQ 1500 charger ~$500 with cart plug cable = $4500.

The charger is max 48v/25A at 110v and 48v/30A at 220v.
Wow that is a lot of gas. But seriously you really have to keep that cart a long time for the cost.
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I find the quiet worth it. I also like the convenience of just plugging in versus finding a gas station to be quite feeing. If I can get a 50 mile range I’m golden.
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Figure $0.55 for those 50 miles on the lithium electric cart compared to $3.00 for those same 50 miles on gasoline. The cost is too rich for me but some people value no noise/smell/vibrations, linear throttle response, and not having to go out of the way to a gas station over fuel costs. Some value serenity and holding a normal conversation highly. The only maintenance on the lithium electric cart will be tires and rear axle gear oil changes every few years...And no more battery watering! The newest EZGO RXV carts use motor braking instead of friction brake pads...No brake pads to replace.

Warning guys: If you don't like talking to your wife...don't get an electric cart
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The Delta-Q ICL1200 charger delivers 33.3 Amps from a 110v plug but the Trojan Trillium requires 57.6 - 59.2 VoltsDC and the "laymans" spec sheet states only 57V DC output. I will contact Delta-Q about this. This would charge the 48v Trillium pack from 0-100% in about 3 hours at that power draw...3 hours for 50 miles or 16.67 miles per hour.

Your dedicated 110V golf cart plug in your garage is on it's own 20A breaker (check breaker box to make sure). You could easily draw nominal 48V@40A from that outlet without tripping the breaker.
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Default Trillium Trojan Batteries

As per Trojan's web site "No specialized chargers needed."

Introducing Trillium™
Trojan’s Intelligent Lithium Ion Battery with More Runtime, Lifetime, and Peace of Mind.



Trillium is the newest addition to the Trojan line of deep-cycle batteries. Designed and engineered in the USA, Trillium is available in 3 popular sizes that can be used in a variety of applications.

Here’s what makes Trillium intelligent — and better:

• Advanced features including microprocessor-controlled safety systems.

• Exceptional power: longer run time, the greatest capacity, and the longest life — more than 5,000 cycles — of any battery in its class.

• Rugged durability that meets the highest quality and safety standards.

True and easy replacement for lead-acid batteries; no additional systems integration or specialized chargers are needed.

Trillium Brochure
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While no specialized chargers are apparently required, Trojan does state that existing chargers are OK as long as they have an AGM/GEL setting. I wonder how many existing chargers actually have that setting.

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As per Trojan's web site "No specialized chargers needed."

Introducing Trillium™
Trojan’s Intelligent Lithium Ion Battery with More Runtime, Lifetime, and Peace of Mind.



Trillium is the newest addition to the Trojan line of deep-cycle batteries. Designed and engineered in the USA, Trillium is available in 3 popular sizes that can be used in a variety of applications.

Here’s what makes Trillium intelligent — and better:

• Advanced features including microprocessor-controlled safety systems.

• Exceptional power: longer run time, the greatest capacity, and the longest life — more than 5,000 cycles — of any battery in its class.

• Rugged durability that meets the highest quality and safety standards.

True and easy replacement for lead-acid batteries; no additional systems integration or specialized chargers are needed.

Trillium Brochure
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Sure would be nice if Club, Yamaha or EZgo offer them as standard so you don't have to pay for the standard batteries and charger. I'm getting ready for a new cart in a yr or so and Lithium is clearly the direction I want to go in. We have electric now and not fond of the smell, noise or chitty chitty bang bang of gas or what they do to our environment. $4.5K is steep but $2500 could be a deal.
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Club Car has their new 3.1kW Tempo Lithium Ion cart and EZGO has their Elite lithium series with up to 6kW. Yamaha will follow soon, I suspect. TVGC sells the EZGO RXV Elite 4.0 with the 6kW lithium pack (about 55 miles of range per charge) for $15K...Ouch. Tomberlin is using the Trillium lithium now but I don't know the price.

Yeah...$2500-$3000 for 8kW usable capacity with >3000 charge cycles is about my trigger level as well. LiFePO4 16s prismatics are still too expensive.

Most OEM chargers are strictly for flooded lead acid and use an Equalize charge that the Trilliums don't want. AGM capable chargers don't have Equalize mode.

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TVGC sells the EZGO RXV Elite 4.0 with the 6kW lithium pack (about 55 miles of range per charge) for $15K.

I met with a saleslady and they have one for $13,400 but she said the max range is 40 miles. She also said they would not convert any cart to lithium batteries. I can get 50 miles in my Club Cart with the 6-8volt Trojans.
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