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-   -   What is the best gas to use in Yamaha gas carts? (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/all-about-golf-carts-things-156/what-best-gas-use-yamaha-gas-carts-164927/)

tuccillo 01-09-2016 02:20 PM
It doesn't matter where you buy your gas. Use Regular (87 octane), which has 10% ethanol. If your cart is going to sit for a length of time add some fuel stabilizer.

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Originally Posted by klough53 (Post 1169075)
Owner suggests regular from Colony, is this non ethanol?
Why this particular place?

rubicon 01-09-2016 03:42 PM
As President Truman once lamented "Someone find me a one handed economist.

The American past time is not Baseball...its peers debating what method is superior. Caulk don't caulk, wrap don't wrap, use regular gas no premium, less than 10% ethanol, no ethanol, stablizer no stablizer, diet don;t diet, eat meat don't eat meat Please someone find me a one handed expert I'm tired of hearing "on the other hand

coalminer 01-09-2016 04:09 PM
I have a fuel injected Yamaha and I run regular from Colony and have no problems.

tuccillo 01-09-2016 04:17 PM
With regard to which gas for a gas golf cart, read the owners manual. For Yamaha gas carts, regular with up to 10% ethanol is OK according to the people who made the cart. Not much to debate.

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1169118)
As President Truman once lamented "Someone find me a one handed economist.

The American past time is not Baseball...its peers debating what method is superior. Caulk don't caulk, wrap don't wrap, use regular gas no premium, less than 10% ethanol, no ethanol, stablizer no stablizer, diet don;t diet, eat meat don't eat meat Please someone find me a one handed expert I'm tired of hearing "on the other hand

KeepingItReal 01-09-2016 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1146218)

Personally, I consider the mechanics the experts. Rather listen to them than even the owner's manual. They know what goes wrong in carts and why.
Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.

golfing eagles 01-09-2016 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169229)
Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.
OMG, is the moon blue? Is this February 30th? I find myself 100% in agreement with KIR. I'm off to the psychiatrist to get my head checked:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

biker1 01-09-2016 09:03 PM
If you are using the cart regularly this is not a problem. If your cart sits for long periods of time it may be an issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169229)
Use whatever fuel makes you happy but I agree, the soon to be three Villages golf cart stores have chosen to sell Ethanol free fuels and no doubt they could have gotten regular gasoline with Ethanol easier.

Mechanics see the problems, manufacturers want to you to buy another unit.

Phase shift or separation is just one of the hidden problems with Ethanol.

Phase Separation in E-10 Gasoline

What is Phase Separation?
E-10 gasoline is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air). If enough water is present, either from condensation or contaminated fuel, E-10 will separate into two layers of liquid: a top layer which is almost all gasoline, and a bottom layer which is almost all ethanol (up to 75%) and water (and oil, in 2-cycle fuel). This process is called phase separation, and may make an engine difficult or impossible to start.

Problems with Phase Separation

Phase separation will pull the octane booster out of the fuel, suddenly dropping 89 octane to 82 or 83. If the fuel filter is clean but the engine has no power, phase separation with octane drop has probably occurred.

Fraugoofy 01-09-2016 11:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1146121)
I also noticed the difference once i filled up with non-ethanol gas. The engine was noticeably quieter and smoother. I fill up at Marathon.
Is that why your TOTV name is Marathon Man?

Greg Nelson 01-10-2016 08:20 AM
I like Seafoam for extended down time..works good in my tbird

Marathon Man 01-10-2016 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1169291)
Is that why your TOTV name is Marathon Man?
It is not. And I did not notice the coincidence when I typed it. Almost looks like I'm advertising that particular company.

KeepingItReal 01-10-2016 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1169253)
OMG, is the moon blue? Is this February 30th? I find myself 100% in agreement with KIR. I'm off to the psychiatrist to get my head checked:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

None of the above, maybe you're just learning a few things... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 01-10-2016 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepingItReal (Post 1169583)
None of the above, maybe you're just learning a few things... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
That's entirely possible. On second thought, maybe not.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

virgind 01-12-2016 11:41 AM
Higher octane runs cooler.May be good for carts. Also 93 octane stops the ping in an engine. Research it for yourself.

tuccillo 01-12-2016 11:53 AM
Golf cart engines, at least the one in my Yamaha, are low compression engines (8.1:1) and do not require premium fuel (93 octane). Using higher octane than required is a waste of money.

Quote:
Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1170514)
Higher octane runs cooler.May be good for carts. Also 93 octane stops the ping in an engine. Research it for yourself.

Pibb26 01-12-2016 11:57 AM
I usually put the 93 in. Personally I don't think the cart stinks as much and never back fires or spits exhaust. Just my experience.


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