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Railcruiser 04-03-2016 09:06 PM

I knew who you are. Like you said I mixed up the names. Such a happy picture. I love it. We are doing great Thank You for asking. I started working too much but that's over now. Hopefully we can get back to the park. I hope it works out for you there

Taltarzac725 04-03-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcruiser (Post 1208216)
I knew who you are. Like you said I mixed up the names. Such a happy picture. I love it. We are doing great Thank You for asking. I started working too much but that's over now. Hopefully we can get back to the park. I hope it works out for you there

It should. I do remember Dory but am having a harder time with Ellie? Is she a new one?

Laura and Scott are very good managers/owners of Doggie Doo Run Run and I hope that they see the seriousness of a pit bull mix or something that looks like that being very protective of its owner and the owner not having much control over the dog. I could have been injured very badly from such an encounter. Especially because those jaws are about at waist level.

Taltarzac725 04-04-2016 07:39 AM

I will keep people informed about how this story goes. Hopefully, it will have a happy ending. It may take a while to resolve itself.

airstreamingypsy 04-04-2016 09:48 AM

My Gus, who has never had an issue with another dog, was attacked by a female Pit Bull in a dog park in Texas. It's not like Gus gave her the stink eye, she attacked him from behind with no provocation. It was horrific, she was determined to kill him, he got away from her once and she attacked a second time.... the guy who owned her was able to grab her to stop it and he paid all of Gus' vet bills. Any Pit that is behaving aggressively should be taken seriously. Other dogs may bite and its over, Pits don't just bite.... they attack. After that incident, if I'm in a dog park and a Pit comes in, we are out of there.... a nice one today can be a vicious one tomorrow.

CFrance 04-04-2016 10:09 AM

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My Gus, who has never had an issue with another dog, was attacked by a female Pit Bull in a dog park in Texas. It's not like Gus gave her the stink eye, she attacked him from behind with no provocation. It was horrific, she was determined to kill him, he got away from her once and she attacked a second time.... the guy who owned her was able to grab her to stop it and he paid all of Gus' vet bills. Any Pit that is behaving aggressively should be taken seriously. Other dogs may bite and its over, Pits don't just bite.... they attack. After that incident, if I'm in a dog park and a Pit comes in, we are out of there.... a nice one today can be a vicious one tomorrow.

There was a similar incident at a dog park in Bradenton. Had the owner not been attentive to his aggressive dog, it could have been very bad. BTW, what he did was pick the dog's back legs up and pull backwards, and it was then unable to move. It distracted the dog enough to allow the other dog to get away.

I know that not all dogs are within 30 feet of their owners at DDRR. However, aggressive breeds who are known to be protective should never be allowed that far away from their owners. And to the people who asked why Tal didn't walk away... He was the victim, not the aggressor. A dog with aggression and protection instincts should not be brought to a dog park.

CritterLover 04-04-2016 12:22 PM

Any dog showing aggression, for any reason, should not be at a dog park, and their owner should get that. It's not usually the dog's fault, either, that it's aggressive. The owner hasn't properly socialized the dog, and the public certainly should not pay for their ignorance.

airstreamingypsy 04-04-2016 04:32 PM

I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run

Taltarzac725 04-04-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1208616)
I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run

There are a lot of very long term customers at Doggie Doo Run Run. They also socialize with one another but will warm up to people if you make an effort. There are different groups that tend to come about the same time and chat often under the various tents. Then there are people who just walk around the park for exercise for the most part. I have done both in the nine years I have been going to Doggie Doo Run Run.

As to aggressive dogs it really varies as to what they allow. It seems to depend somewhat on what complaints have been made against certain dogs and by whom. I do find Laura and Scott though, for the most part, fair. There are some aggressive dogs who have been limited to only coming to the agility area. They do have signs up in various places around the agility area that if that area is in use you should not enter.

Barefoot 04-05-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1208616)
I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run

We've never experienced any unfriendliness in the nine years we've been taking our dogs to DDRR.
On the contrary, we've met lots of wonderful people who have become friends and golf buddies.
I've been told by people who have voiced concerns to Laura and Scott, the owners, that they are very responsive and investigate all complaints.

Polar Bear 04-06-2016 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1208616)
I was curious about the dog park so I googled it and found these reviews..... seems the place is very unfriendly to newbies..... and according to the bottom review the owners do nothing about aggressive dogs.... Doggie Doo Run Run

You do know the inherent nature of googled reviews of anything I hope.

Taltarzac725 04-06-2016 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1209165)
We've never experienced any unfriendliness in the nine years we've been taking our dogs to DDRR.
On the contrary, we've met lots of wonderful people who have become friends and golf buddies.
I've been told by people who have voiced concerns to Laura and Scott, the owners, that they are very responsive and investigate all complaints.

This is my first complaint made about any dog at Doggie Doo Run Run. There are some dogs that play a little rough but usually the dogs and the owners work it out without going to the owners Scott and Laura or to their various employees. Their employees keep a close watch on things though.

You should give DDRR a try as Barefoot wrote is a a wonderful place to take your dog. You do have to keep an eye on the new dogs coming in and watch out for other things that may be in play which you would have to do pretty much anywhere else as well.

Taltarzac725 04-07-2016 07:53 AM

Kirby and Doggie Doo Run Run.
 
https://youtu.be/5fE_h84b3ws

This YouTube will give you an idea of Doggie Doo Run Run if you have not been there before.

Barefoot 04-07-2016 12:09 PM

Our dogs love DDRR
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1209642)
https://youtu.be/5fE_h84b3ws

This YouTube will give you an idea of Doggie Doo Run Run if you have not been there before.

Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.

Taltarzac725 04-07-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1209777)
Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.

That was a very nice Doberman Pinscher from six years ago. I believe she/he passed a while back but remember the dog fondly. A lot of smaller dogs did chase it around. I do not remember its name.

I go there almost every day too unless Beau is not feeling well or I am or we have some kind of appointment.

CFrance 04-07-2016 01:18 PM

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Nice Tal (and Kirby). That video was taken six years ago.
Since the video, the owners have added a pool for dogs which is fenced and covered.
More of a soaking pool than a swimming pool, but dogs seem to love it.

Our dogs beg to go to DDRR daily - it means the world to them. And we're happy to oblige.
It's a great place, the staff is congenial, and we've made many friends there.

Perhaps a bit small for some breeds! But all some big lugs need are a bit of water and a tennis ball.

Barefoot 04-07-2016 02:22 PM

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Perhaps a bit small for some breeds! But all some big lugs need are a bit of water and a tennis ball.

Crosby loves to soak in the pool. I wish his mom would take him to DDRR more often. :evil6:

CFrance 04-07-2016 02:24 PM

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Crosby loves to soak in the pool. I wish his mom would take him to DDRR more often. :evil6:

You wanna pay for the next surgery??:kiss:

Barefoot 04-07-2016 02:29 PM

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You wanna pay for the next surgery??:kiss:

No, I don't wanna pay for the next surgery, the last one cost a fortune! $$$$$ :doggie:

Taltarzac725 04-07-2016 03:32 PM

Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

CritterLover 04-07-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1209885)
Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

A vet told me years ago regarding a pup we rescued from a puppy mill, that many believe it's engrained in them as a way to prevent predators from tracking them or, in the case of a mama pup, to remove traces of her puppies for their safety from predators, she also eats their's. Survival of the fittest, but EWWWWWW!

Polar Bear 04-07-2016 04:19 PM

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...beau sometimes eats his poop...

tmi. :)

Susan G 04-07-2016 07:31 PM

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Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.!

Fecals are used to check for various parasites: hookworms, roundworms, tapes, etc. but not Heartworms Taltarzac. Beau needs a seperate HW test which is a blood draw from his fore paw. :-)

Nucky 04-07-2016 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1209885)
Missed Doggie Doo Run Run today because of the need to make sure I got some of Beau's poop for his annual check-up at Buffalo Ridge Animal Hospital. He had fun at the vet except for the exam which he gets very nervous about. Friendly people there at Buffalo Ridge.

Beau sometimes eats his poop before I can get it at DDRR so I had to make sure he was on a long leashed walk so that I could get the poop for the fecal exam for heart worms.

I forgot to ask the vet about dogs eating poop but from the research I have done there is not a whole lot that can be done about it except for what I have already tried like sprinkling Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his food. A trick I got from a lady at DDRR who used to work for some vet offices up in CT. Jon Snow lives!!!

Tal isn't it rough chasing the dog around to get the sample? How do you keep up with the little guy? It must be nasty holding the bag under the poor doggy while he poops! By the way...wonderful name for your dog. Is that short for Beauregard? Very Royal Sounding.

Taltarzac725 04-07-2016 09:17 PM

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Fecals are used to check for various parasites: hookworms, roundworms, tapes, etc. but not Heartworms Taltarzac. Beau needs a seperate HW test which is a blood draw from his fore paw. :-)

They did that too.

Taltarzac725 04-07-2016 09:19 PM

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Tal isn't it rough chasing the dog around to get the sample? How do you keep up with the little guy? It must be nasty holding the bag under the poor doggy while he poops! By the way...wonderful name for your dog. Is that short for Beauregard? Very Royal Sounding.

He came with that name from the foster parents as he is a rescue from Max's Pet Connection which got him from the Inverness Animal Shelter. He is a very affectionate little guy so Beau fit. The dog catcher had nabbed him on 2/19/2014 in Meadowcrest in Crystal River and Max's Pet Connection rescued him sometime after that.

Taltarzac725 04-08-2016 11:29 AM

I am a little angry as Harlow was back again today. Either Jade's owner did not back me up or Scott and Laura did not think this was serious enough to ban Harlow from Doggie Doo Run Run.

I just did smaller circuits in the back field a very good distance from Harlow and Jade and their two female owners.

It is that or start going somewhere else with Beau as my personal safety is very important to me.

I did not risk finding out if Harlow's owner has the dog under control now as she certainly did not last Friday.

Just in case this seems to reflect some prejudice on my part about pit bull mixes; I have never had a problem with Jade which seems like a very gentle pooch.

This is the only complaint I have made against a dog at Doggie Doo Run Run in the nine years + I have been going there so I am not just doing this for attention or some other reason like an agenda. I really was scared for my personal safety last Friday. https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...071-post1.html

kittygilchrist 04-08-2016 12:11 PM

2 cents.
Dogs know when your guard is up..
My large dog is perfectly friendly with workers who come here unless...new people do not acknowledge her when they come in, or they hold their toolbox or briefcase up in fear.
I have learned to ask them to not use barriers and say hello to her.

Otherwise, she may start barking and keep at it til they leave, as if to say, if you can't trust me, then I can't trust you.

kittygilchrist 04-08-2016 12:23 PM

4 cents, cumulative.
I have known greatly affectionate pits, rotties, shepherds, dobies, chows.
Also, meanies and surprise attackers.
I never approach any of them without their initiating contact or the owners reassurance.
And never fail to be their friend if they want to be.

Dogs decide who they like as dog friends and people friends. The best dog may encounter someone who freaks them out. It happened to me. A professional trainer was behind me with her shepherd on a leather leash when the dog bit me on the derrier, never had done that before. Go figure.

kittygilchrist 04-08-2016 12:31 PM

6 cents, a dollar.

I go to isolated parks with none to three other dogs.

If there is one other dog, keep mine on lead, observe the other dog.

Small dog, playful, not charging mine, ok...off with leash.

Two large dogs teaming and charging. Stand ground, between my dog and the others, yell at owners. Leave when other dogs go to their mommy. Never unleashed my dog that time.

New dog comes in, leash up. Observe.

Don't ask where I go, I am too selfish to tell you.

And Tal, you gave me an idea. I should do laps, but other dogs might see that as challenging.

Taltarzac725 04-08-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 1210298)
2 cents.
Dogs know when your guard is up..
My large dog is perfectly friendly with workers who come here unless...new people do not acknowledge her when they come in, or they hold their toolbox or briefcase up in fear.
I have learned to ask them to not use barriers and say hello to her.

Otherwise, she may start barking and keep at it til they leave, as if to say, if you can't trust me, then I can't trust you.

My guard was not up though. Something else was going on last Friday. I will just avoid Harlow and its owner as much as possible. This is an aggressive and protective dog AND a pit bull/boxer mix or that is what it looks like to me.

I am afraid that this is not the last you will hear of Harlow and Doggie Doo Run Run.

Taltarzac725 04-09-2016 02:44 AM

Nuts*(1987) - Rotten Tomatoes

The heart of the matter is a dog threatening a certain precious part of the male anatomy if you get too close to its owner while you are just trying to get exercise at a private dog park. This is in the exercise area of the dog park- the five acre back field.


After a good rain some of the glass from a previous business in this area-- I had heard some kind of mill from Joe and Scott-- comes to the surface in the dirt area of the back field. I often walk around looking for this glass to prevent injury to the pets. I have found some large pieces over the years and many much smaller ones. Only a few though that looking like they could cause a cut to a pooch.

That is what I was doing on April 1, 2015 looking for glass which I mentioned to Jade and Harlow's owners the first time I passed them where they were visiting at the picnic table. The second pass is when I put my hand out to try to pet Harlow and the dog became hostile. The third pass was when Harlow sounded liked he wanted to take a bite out of anything he could reach.

This kind of aggression from a dog does not belong in ANY dog park and if acted on by the dog and which causes injury to the person puts the owners' of the dog park in legal jeopardy to a lawsuit caused by any such action of that dog especially if the owners' have been notified in advance that this dog is aggressive and protective of its owner.

Taltarzac725 04-09-2016 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1210515)
Nuts*(1987) - Rotten Tomatoes

The heart of the matter is a dog threatening a certain precious part of the male anatomy if you get too close to its owner while you are just trying to get exercise at a private dog park. This is in the exercise area of the dog park- the five acre back field.


After a good rain some of the glass from a previous business in this area-- I had heard some kind of mill from Joe and Scott-- comes to the surface in the dirt area of the back field. I often walk around looking for this glass to prevent injury to the pets. I have found some large pieces over the years and many much smaller ones. Only a few though that looking like they could cause a cut to a pooch.

That is what I was doing on April 1, 2015 looking for glass which I mentioned to Jade and Harlow's owners the first time I passed them where they were visiting at the picnic table. The second pass is when I put my hand out to try to pet Harlow and the dog became hostile. The third pass was when Harlow sounded liked he wanted to take a bite out of anything he could reach.

This kind of aggression from a dog does not belong in ANY dog park and if acted on by the dog and which causes injury to the person puts the owners' of the dog park in legal jeopardy to a lawsuit caused by any such action of that dog especially if the owners' have been notified in advance that this dog is aggressive and protective of its owner.

A Negligent Dog Owner's Liability | Nolo.com

I will be trying to avoid Harlow as much as possible while still enjoying Doggie Doo Run Run.

xcaligirl 04-09-2016 10:49 AM

Aggressive behavior is not acceptable ~ not everyone will know NOT to walk past a dog at any dog park! Nobody should have to alter his walk because a dog has a problem. Just my opinion!

xcaligirl 04-09-2016 10:53 AM

You are definitely not the problem! I've been attacked by a dog before at a dog park in Californis so I fully understand what you're saying! An aggressive dog should NOT be allowed at a dog park! Unfortunately since I've been attacked and since my dog has also been attacked, we won't even go to dog parks anymore. Our neighbors dog was attacked at Mulberry Dog park.

Taltarzac725 04-09-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1210678)
Aggressive behavior is not acceptable ~ not everyone will know NOT to walk past a dog at any dog park! Nobody should have to alter his walk because a dog has a problem. Just my opinion!

My Brazilian-American former sister-in-law, Susan, got bit by a dog when she was a tween/teen and never got over it. I remember she had problems with our Dalmatian Ashes even though Ashes was quite sweet. Unless you got out of bed and your female owner-- my Mom-- was still in bed. My Dad found out the hard way that he is not going to back in bed with a very protective Dalmatian guarding her. That was in a private home though and Ashes was good for the most part playing with other dogs and people.

I feel for you xcaligirl. I would feel very different around dogs if I got bit by one and if one seriously maimed me-- which pit bull mixes can do very quickly-- then I would probably be scared of most dogs for the rest of my life. Our dog now is a great source of stress relief.

This is Ashes:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ps04698c9d.jpg

Taltarzac725 04-11-2016 08:33 AM

I have been going a few other places than Doggie Doo Run Run with Beau of late. It is nice to see the smiles I get from some people. Beau seems to be popular.

There was even a Dalmatian that looked a little bit like Ashes our pet from around 1973-1990 or thereabouts. Her picture is in the post above. I do like seeing Dalmatians but know each one has a different personality.

Taltarzac725 04-11-2016 01:25 PM

Nice quite morning at Doggie Doo Run Run today.

My friend Whit told me a funny story Saturday and it is a scene from a Peter Sellers' movie.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iguu-rAdAI4

There are pooches here in the Villages that I would not dare trying to pet and it is usually smaller dogs which will bite. Of course, the bigger dogs can do a whole lot more damage than the smaller ones.

Taltarzac725 04-13-2016 06:23 AM

Doggie Doo Run Run seems to be back to the well run place it has been the more than nine years I have been going there. Not sure what happened with the problem with Harlow. If anyone has any reliable information send me a private message. Just want to re-iterate that I never had any problem with Jade the pit bull mix nor with her nice owner.

Taltarzac725 04-14-2016 08:11 AM

https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavi...ing-aggression

This looks like a good article on dog aggression by Cesar Milan.

And something else by Robin Tierney.

Dog Tip: Aggression, Growling, Lunging at Dogs and People Outdoors

Taltarzac725 04-14-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1212457)
https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavi...ing-aggression

This looks like a good article on dog aggression by Cesar Milan.

And something else by Robin Tierney.

Dog Tip: Aggression, Growling, Lunging at Dogs and People Outdoors

Harlow was back to Doggie Doo Run Run today. Did not seem to have any problems with anyone. If the owner can keep the dog under control I would not have a problem with it.

I did keep my distance though from Harlow and the owner of the dog.


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