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VApeople 01-04-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 1166472)
What are the leash laws in Sumter County?
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Yes, I suspected the county would only require a dog to be "under control", not on a leash.

But I thought The Villages requires dogs to be on a leash when they are off their owners property, and others seem to confirm this. Is this not the law in The Villages?

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Originally Posted by sharoni (Post 1166569)
We have 2 Golden Retrievers that are neither on a leash or under control close to where we live in Charlotte. They have run at our dogs on leash and in our golf cart. Wish their owner would get control or pay more attention before letting them out the front doors of her villa.

Why do you think no one has reported the owner to the authorities in The Villages?

njbchbum 01-04-2016 06:58 PM

My deed restrictions SPECIFICALLy state "a leash" when not in the house:
"Use of Property
2.16 Only one dog may be kept by any Owner, provided, however, that at all times said animal, when not within the confines of the Home, shall be restrained by a leash."

Barefoot 01-04-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1166565)
I didn't read it that way. I think they simply left out a "comma". I believe "direct control" refers to voice control.
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times, or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

I agree. Although few people have total voice control over their dog.
They may think they do, until the dog sees a squirrel!


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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1166762)
My deed restrictions SPECIFICALLy state "a leash" when not in the house:
"Use of Property
2.16 Only one dog may be kept by any Owner, provided, however, that at all times said animal, when not within the confines of the Home, shall be restrained by a leash."

Our Village allows two dogs and the deed restriction is worded differently.

billethkid 01-04-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoGeo (Post 1166541)
I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash. I guess they think nobody will see them there. And I wish they would clean up their poo. Hard to see your dog pooing when it is way out ahead of you and out of site. Doesn't do any good to say anything.

You owe an apology to the majority who do just that.

It is not acceptable to throw them into your generalization of the very low percent that do not abide by the rules!!!!

ajbrown 01-04-2016 07:48 PM

I gues I am still bored
 
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1166565)
I didn't read it that way. I think they simply left out a "comma". I believe "direct control" refers to voice control.

County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times, or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

I agree with your interpretation of direct control. I was having some fun with how using the 'or' can be misleading if the writer is not careful.

Now back to important things... Hacienda or Tierra for golf Friday :undecided:

njbchbum 01-04-2016 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1166771)
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Our Village allows two dogs and the deed restriction is worded differently.

That's why it is ever so important for the OP to read deed restrictions for the area[s] where they are considering a purchase.

GeoGeo 01-04-2016 08:15 PM

billiethkid,

I hope you are just joking around. I didn't really think I said anything that needed to be apologized for. I'm sorry if you read and take it differently than what I meant. I guess I could have worded it different. I just wish that ALL the people followed the law who go there.....the ones that already do follow the law and the ones who are not. I know that many, many do. I just wish ALL did. Sorry if my Englsih and way of putting words together are not what you think they should be. I don't mean that in a mean way. So please don't take it as such.

fred53 01-04-2016 08:24 PM

No apology necessary...
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1166780)
You owe an apology to the majority who do just that.

It is not acceptable to throw them into your generalization of the very low percent that do not abide by the rules!!!!

This was said that you didn't like: "I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash."

She clearly is referring to people who don't keep their dogs on a leash. Now you need to apologize for assuming the worst in people.

Sanibel7 01-04-2016 08:42 PM

Bottom line .. Leashed off your property..

VApeople 01-04-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1166803)
That's why it is ever so important for the OP to read deed restrictions for the area[s] where they are considering a purchase.

That is a very good point. However, we will be considering a lot of areas and we don't have the energy to read all of their deed restrictions in advance.

Therefore, we plan to tell the realtors we will only consider houses in areas where the deed restrictions specify that dogs must be on a leash when they are not on the owners property. Then, when we find a house we want to purchase, we will read the deed restrictions very carefully.

Right now, the only neighborhoods we plan to avoid are the ones where the roads empty into Morse Road north of 466. In the thread about the accident that occurred where San Marino intersects Morse, we read several posts written by residents who hate to ride along that part of Morse Road because there are no designated cart paths. That was enough to discourage us from living there.

CFrance 01-04-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1166813)
This was said that you didn't like: "I wish all people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park would follow the law and keep their dogs on leash."

She clearly is referring to people who don't keep their dogs on a leash. Now you need to apologize for assuming the worst in people.

Actually, not that clear, in my opinion. If Geo had said "I wish all the people who take their dogs to Lake Okahumpka Park and don't follow the law would follow the law," it would have clearly indicated that not all who take their dogs there don't follow the law.

Just like in the leash law referenced above, clarity is everything.

njbchbum 01-04-2016 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1166828)
That is a very good point. However, we will be considering a lot of areas and we don't have the energy to read all of their deed restrictions in advance.

Therefore, we plan to tell the realtors we will only consider houses in areas where the deed restrictions specify that dogs must be on a leash when they are not on the owners property. Then, when we find a house we want to purchase, we will read the deed restrictions very carefully.

Right now, the only neighborhoods we plan to avoid are the ones where the roads empty into Morse Road north of 466. In the thread about the accident that occurred where San Marino intersects Morse, we read several posts written by residents who hate to ride along that part of Morse Road because there are no designated cart paths. That was enough to discourage us from living there.

Oh, my, my! I learned long ago not to trust ANY salesman - regardless of who they work for and/or represent. There are no guarantees of what they tell you and no recourse to be had if something wasn't quite true! And as a side thought - just because deed restrictions might require that pets be on a leash when outside of the home or off of the property - don't count on that to be a reality. And even if on a leash and out for their daily constitutional - that leash usually does little to prevent the pet from enjoying your front lawn!

And as far as taking the golf cart out on Morse Blvd. - are you really going to rely about a comfort level based on someone else's opinion rather than your personal experience? Morse does have a golf cart diamond lane for carts that shares the road with cars. Several posts on TOTV really are miniscual compared to the number of cart operators who have found their comfort level riding next to cars on that road.

Don't deny yourselves the oppty to live in the house you might really enjoy because of 'several posts' on TOTV. Consider the thought - but - consider your personal experience[s] first.

graciegirl 01-05-2016 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1166881)
Oh, my, my! I learned long ago not to trust ANY salesman - regardless of who they work for and/or represent. There are no guarantees of what they tell you and no recourse to be had if something wasn't quite true! And as a side thought - just because deed restrictions might require that pets be on a leash when outside of the home or off of the property - don't count on that to be a reality. And even if on a leash and out for their daily constitutional - that leash usually does little to prevent the pet from enjoying your front lawn!

And as far as taking the golf cart out on Morse Blvd. - are you really going to rely about a comfort level based on someone else's opinion rather than your personal experience? Morse does have a golf cart diamond lane for carts that shares the road with cars. Several posts on TOTV really are miniscual compared to the number of cart operators who have found their comfort level riding next to cars on that road.

Don't deny yourselves the oppty to live in the house you might really enjoy because of 'several posts' on TOTV. Consider the thought - but - consider your personal experience[s] first.





Always listen to this woman. I have never known her to be wrong. I travel the golf paths on Morse frequently and am not afraid, ditto the "narrow" Morse Bridge which soon becomes quite easy. You can live anywhere here and be completely happy. Find the house you love. If you want a lot of people who will want to know each other immediately and do things together, buy a new home. New homes and old homes cost about the same. Some say older homes have upgrades and additions, but they never were the ones I would have chosen.


It is ALL good, Va person. It is ALL good.


And if you buy a place you find you don't like or want to move later to a different view, part of town, or size of home, they sell quickly...IF they are clean, well staged, priced correctly. ALSO moving furniture and belongings is MUCH cheaper here than cross country.

asianthree 01-05-2016 08:07 AM

First week of 2016 and already two poop threads.

dewilson58 01-05-2016 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1166931)
First week of 2016 and already two poop threads.



:22yikes:


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