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fw102807 05-11-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542463)
As to that lady at Walgreens. I would bet she then went into the store WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS and shopped.
Weeks ago, I saw a guy with a miniature whit poodle. The dog took a right in the middle of the walkway at the Brownwood farmers market. He pretended he didn't know.
Someone else came along and stepped in it.

Of course it is disgusting. Instant replay-should he have picked it up and then continued handling FOOD?

I don't know what the law is. I DO KNOW THAT COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY MEANS YOUR DOG DOES NOT BELONG THERE.

:1rotfl: and people worry about restroom door handles

What is this common sense that you speak of?

CFrance 05-11-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542450)
It was mentioned about horses. Actually it not at all the same. A horse eats plant matter-grass, grain. You cannot catch diseases from it.

Dogs on the other hand eat meat and can transfer diseases. Others have suggested having YOUR DOG releive itself on YOUR PROPERTY. First of all tyhe dog due to INSTINCT will not go where it lives. THE DOG BY NATURE-SAME AS YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOWS IT IS UNSANITARY.

I like dogs. I do not own one.

FOR ALL OF US-A my dad used to say, YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE THE OTHER PERSONS RIGHTS BEGIN. Simple line that answers the most complex issues. RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part. All our dogs would go in our various yards. It's just that they wouldn't go where they sleep--crate, bed, etc., inside the house.

Anyone who trained a dog from a puppy probably took it outside into the yard to go. Wherever you train the puppy to go is where he will get the idea that's where he's supposed to go, and he will go there. Our current dog was trained in a yard full of pebbles in Key West one winter. Upon returning to Michigan when he was 6 months old, we had to retrain him to go on grass. It was possible.

We never had a dog that wouldn't go in our yard.

Sgroemm 05-11-2018 11:02 AM

Personally I have a little plastic dispenser that holds biodegradable dog waste bags and it is always attached to my dog's leash so I have it when I need it. It's not rocket science....just common sense and responsibility.

fw102807 05-11-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542450)
THE DOG BY NATURE-SAME AS YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOWS IT IS UNSANITARY.

I like dogs. I do not own one.

You obviously do not own a dog to make this statement. If dogs were aware of sanitation they would not eat things I do not want to mention here including poop or sniff each other's butt. Our dogs always went in our yard where they were trained to go.

thetruth 05-11-2018 01:02 PM

Not sure if you own a dog
 
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Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 1542000)
Unfortunately when a dog is walked it does not have the ability to let it's owner know that it has to go back home to relieve it's self (again). So it does what is natural for a dog and relieves it's self again. Sometimes just walking activates the dogs ( I have to go again ) memory. As long as the poop is picked up, I see no problem with a nice walk for the pouch.

I do not but have in the past. Several people seem to think their dog is a child. I do like dogs but, too many credit their dog with far more awareness and motivation then is REAL.
As far as discovering a need to go on a walk. A dog uses scent far more than sight. A male dog will pee on every tree that catches his attention-HEY GUYS I WAS HERE.
Some dogs seem to try to cover their leavings by scratching. There are glads in his feet that give off a scent and that is the motive.
I LIKE DOGS BUT, RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS IS ALWAYS NECESSARY-TRULY SIMPLE.

fw102807 05-11-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542553)
I do not but have in the past. Several people seem to think their dog is a child. I do like dogs but, too many credit their dog with far more awareness and motivation then is REAL.
As far as discovering a need to go on a walk. A dog uses scent far more than sight. A male dog will pee on every tree that catches his attention-HEY GUYS I WAS HERE.
Some dogs seem to try to cover their leavings by scratching. There are glads in his feet that give off a scent and that is the motive.
I LIKE DOGS BUT, RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS IS ALWAYS NECESSARY-TRULY SIMPLE.

The problem isn't dogs at all, it is people who believe that their rights are more important than their responsibilities. This is not limited to any particular generation either.

CFrance 05-11-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542553)
I do not but have in the past. Several people seem to think their dog is a child. I do like dogs but, too many credit their dog with far more awareness and motivation then is REAL.
As far as discovering a need to go on a walk. A dog uses scent far more than sight. A male dog will pee on every tree that catches his attention-HEY GUYS I WAS HERE.
Some dogs seem to try to cover their leavings by scratching. There are glads in his feet that give off a scent and that is the motive.
I LIKE DOGS BUT, RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS IS ALWAYS NECESSARY-TRULY SIMPLE.

Ya know... I wonder if your statements are out of date. None of my four male dogs were markers (peeing every three feet to make sure other dogs knew they were there.). It kind of depends on when they were neutered, and the prevailing thought at their time was to neuter by 6-9 months (further research says that's not good, wait a year). Even the one neutered at a year did not mark. At any rate, it is the non-neutered dogs that tend to mark. And there are very few non-neutered dogs these days.

Again, I fear you are making a blanket accusation. But I will say that a short leash and owner control will keep any dog, neutered or not, from going on someone's lawn. And that's the right thing to do.

fw102807 05-11-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1542589)
Ya know... I wonder if your statements are out of date. None of my four male dogs were markers (peeing every three feet to make sure other dogs knew they were there.). It kind of depends on when they were neutered, and the prevailing thought at their time was to neuter by 6-9 months (further research says that's not good, wait a year). Even the one neutered at a year did not mark. At any rate, it is the non-neutered dogs that tend to mark. And there are very few non-neutered dogs these days.

Again, I fear you are making a blanket accusation. But I will say that a short leash and owner control will keep any dog, neutered or not, from going on someone's lawn. And that's the right thing to do.

We had one that was a marker, he was also an alpha and also had been neutered before a year. I guess it depends on the dog. We keep all of our dogs on a short leash and are careful where we let them go.

CFrance 05-11-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1542591)
We had one that was a marker, he was also an alpha and also had been neutered before a year. I guess it depends on the dog. We keep all of our dogs on a short leash and are careful where we let them go.

That's the best solution. Covers all possibilities.

mokey 05-11-2018 03:03 PM

The point of the the first post was not whether you pick it up or not, but if you allow your dog to come on someones private property to do it.

CFrance 05-11-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mokey (Post 1542599)
The point of the the first post was not whether you pick it up or not, but if you allow your dog to come on someones private property to do it.

I kind of disagree with that. I thought the point of the post was to throw the statement out to the general population for comment.

Comments in this case can go all over the place. I find it interesting, actually. It's a diverse conversation. Kind of what a forum is about.

The Mods will tell us if we've gone too far off topic.:wave:

jebartle 05-11-2018 03:28 PM

This has been said b4
 
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

This works for me, buy a wooden sign, use a paint stick, with magic marker write "PLEASE NO PETS". Problem solved, it works!!!

CFrance 05-11-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1542618)
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

This works for me, buy a wooden sign, use a paint stick, with magic marker write "PLEASE NO PETS". Problem solved, it works!!!

But it's also not allowed by TV.

Mrs. Robinson 05-11-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1541985)

Yes, it IS interesting.
Perhaps in our older age, many people get bent out of shape for too many minor things because they don't have enough to gripe about; insignificant things are magnified to grandiose purportions!
They make mountains out of mole hills.
They just can't let many of these things fade into nothingness
!

Mrs. Robinson 05-11-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1541986)
That is very interesting but I know that in the deed restrictions there are a few feet of easements. Would that area be exempt?

Regardless of where you live, there are always county and utility easements which generally are around ten feet or so of the front of a homesite, in addition to easements on the sides and back of a home.

While the homeowner maintains these areas and they show up on a survey that shows ownership, it would be very costly to sue someone for trespass.

I'd be willing to bet the homeowner loses!

Mrs. Robinson 05-11-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1541996)
I am glad you are not my neighbor. Seem a bit bitter to me.

Likewise!

Bitter? No, but as the O.P. of this thread, I found the comment I copied offensive, angry and to use your word -- bitter.

I purposely did not comment on it initially because I thought perhaps it just hit me wrong. I have not changed my opinion and was even very surprised that it passed the Moderator's smell test and was not removed.
I found the comment arrogant!

My real opinion is that too many "old" people here get bent out of shape for too many insignificant things.
My use of "old" is not a chronological number; it is a mindset!

graciegirl 05-11-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1542672)
Likewise!

Bitter? No, but as the O.P. of this thread, I found the comment I copied offensive, angry and to use your word -- bitter.

I purposely did not comment on it initially because I thought perhaps it just hit me wrong. I have not changed my opinion and was even very surprised that it passed the Moderator's smell test and was not removed.
I found the comment arrogant!

My real opinion is that too many "old" people here get bent out of shape for too many insignificant things.
My use of "old" is not a chronological number; it is a mindset!

You love animals deeply, purely, passionately, and I think that is a good thing. Some others don't love them like you do. There has been too much hateful banter on this forum today. In my humble opinion.

ColdNoMore 05-11-2018 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 427dave (Post 1542426)
Where we lived before one of the neighbors had a sheep dog, she walked it and let it take a poop in the middle of our driveway. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said nothing, therefore I retrieved a shovel, scooped it up, took it to her house and placed it at the front door. She never walked our way again, said there was crazy man on that end of the street. She was a college professor at the local college and just did not get it.

Here in the Villages a few weeks ago I was at Walgreen's and a woman let her dog take a poop right in front of the door. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said she didn't have anything to pick it up with. I said I have your picture and will be turning it over the the police, she came back with a tissue and picked it up from the clean end and placed it in the trash can. I just don't get some people, are they that stupid!

No, almost guaranteed that they're not..."that stupid."


Also almost guaranteed, they are just totally and thoroughly...rude, selfish and inconsiderate. :mad:

ColdNoMore 05-11-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1542559)
The problem isn't dogs at all, it is people who believe that their rights are more important than their responsibilities. This is not limited to any particular generation either.

PERFECTLY stated. :thumbup:

Mrs. Robinson 05-11-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1542618)
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

This works for me, buy a wooden sign, use a paint stick, with magic marker write "PLEASE NO PETS". Problem solved, it works!!!

. . . and make sure you put that sign next to one of those little white crosses so it will be noticed!

Ooops. Next conversation, please! :a040:

Mrs. Robinson 05-11-2018 08:44 PM

Ho-Hum (yawn)
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1542674)
You love animals deeply, purely, passionately, and I think that is a good thing. Some others don't love them like you do. There has been too much hateful banter on this forum today. In my humble opinion.


Your comment is well-taken as is what CFrance has said in some of her posts. The banter always seems to turn hateful when the topic has anything to do with pets. The hateful ones are so unnecessary and there are too many of them. They are not helpful.

Most dog owners are not unconscious (present company included) and we do the best we can. Our dogs are leashed and we pick up after them when they "go" -- at home and otherwise. Then there are the limited few you simply want to choke, such as the woman at Walmart in a previous post.

We do not have sidewalks in any of the neighborhoods and dog parks are few; most owners have to drive to one. We do not have fenced yards, so taking your dog for a walk is virtually, the only exercise readily available.

Walking a dog on the 100+ degree blacktop is not an option without shoes or for any pet. Walking along the edge of someone's grass is not going to kill it. If someone lets their dog continually relieve them self on someone's lawn, then YES -- you have an issue and should deal with the pet owner. However, an accident is an accident so lighten up! It's doubtful there would be any damage and if so, it isn't permanent. It takes a lot of ongoing pee to kill a shrub!

Many of the angry posters on this thread have not even experienced any of the problems they are bringing up. So -- can we let sleeping dogs lie????

Chi-Town 05-11-2018 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1542450)
It was mentioned about horses. Actually it not at all the same. A horse eats plant matter-grass, grain. You cannot catch diseases from it.

Dogs on the other hand eat meat and can transfer diseases. Others have suggested having YOUR DOG releive itself on YOUR PROPERTY. First of all tyhe dog due to INSTINCT will not go where it lives. THE DOG BY NATURE-SAME AS YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOWS IT IS UNSANITARY.

I like dogs. I do not own one.

FOR ALL OF US-A my dad used to say, YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE THE OTHER PERSONS RIGHTS BEGIN. Simple line that answers the most complex issues. RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.

Just to mention that all caps means that you are yelling. [emoji3]

Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

ColdNoMore 05-11-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chi-town (Post 1542803)
just to mention that all caps means that you are yelling.

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SAY WHAT?
:1rotfl:

jebartle 05-12-2018 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1542620)
But it's also not allowed by TV.

Sign is small, never a complaint, Yet!!!!

Topspinmo 05-13-2018 07:03 AM

IMO the pet forum should be deleted like the political forum or renamed the DOG HATE forum. AND NO I DONT HAVE PET ANYMORE AND I NEVER GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY without premission or going straight to front door? You're not going to change pet owners by posting you're opinion on how nasty they are by posting here, they probably don't even visit this site? Now chew on that for awhile. :popcorn:

CFrance 05-13-2018 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1543147)
IMO the pet forum should be deleted like the political forum or renamed the DOG HATE forum. AND NO I DONT HAVE PET ANYMORE AND I NEVER GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY without premission or going straight to front door? You're not going to change pet owners by posting you're opinion on how nasty they are by posting here, they probably don't even visit this site? Now chew on that for awhile. :popcorn:

Although I sometimes have a bone to pick with you on things, not this time.

tagjr1 05-13-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1541965)
Most dog owners I know pick up after their pooch. At least the poop.

Exactly how many would that be? It's probably less than .01 % of all dog owners in the Villages!

CFrance 05-13-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tagjr1 (Post 1543226)
Exactly how many would that be? It's probably less than .01 % of all dog owners in the Villages!

Could be that Tal has a low percentage of exposure to TV pooper scoopers. However, there are so many of us spread out all over TV that have his same experience, I'd suggest that your conjecture doesn't hold up when applied across the board.


We responsible dog owners keep an eye out for the abusers. In my own area, there are emails sent around by "the mayor" whenever stuff is not picked up. Residents keep an eye out for offenders and offer a bag.


Many of us will even pick up what others have left behind.


Come live in Tamarind Grove or Biscayne Villas. It's pristine.

Polar Bear 05-13-2018 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tagjr1 (Post 1543226)
Exactly how many would that be? It's probably less than .01 % of all dog owners in the Villages!

What a joke.

SFSkol 05-13-2018 01:46 PM

I agree with the OP. and have no issue with the pertinent post. And as far as friendly dogs: I have a 4" scar on my thigh I received as a child from a large, "She's only being friendly," dog when I inadvertently stepped on her foot. In my opinion, I have seen far too many village dog owners that are inconsiderate to non-animal aficionados.

CFrance 05-13-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SFSkol (Post 1543266)
I agree with the OP. and have no issue with the pertinent post. And as far as friendly dogs: I have a 4" scar on my thigh I received as a child from a large, "She's only being friendly," dog when I inadvertently stepped on her foot. In my opinion, I have seen far too many village dog owners that are inconsiderate to non-animal aficionados.

OP was not even talking about dogs being friendly or not, biting or not.


I find a lot of the time it's the people who have had run-ins with dogs in the past who are complaining about any dog activity in TV, be it picking up poop or whatever. Oftentimes their response is escalated into a situation that doesn't even occur in TV and is off topic.


You state you "inadvertently" stepped on a dog's foot when you were a child. Is there more to the story. Now you indicate that dogs in TV are not friendly.

I "innocently/inadvertently" was trespassing through someone's backyard on the way home from school in the 5th grade, when their boxer bit me on the knee.

There's a whole lot of difference between someone's dog biting you and some dog's owner neglecting to pick up after them. I'd like to see the facts: how many dogs have attacked how many Villagers in how many years.

SFSkol 05-13-2018 02:34 PM

My incident occurred in the 60's on the Atlantic City boardwalk. Hardly private property. There were a few friendly dog posts mentioned further in this thread, hence my decision to include my encounter. You misconstrue that I inferred that dogs attack people in the villages. Based upon my aforementioned experience any," friendly" dog that advances to someone, albeit a sniff or soliciting a pet is an invasion of personal space. That has occurred to me on many occasions as I frequent the squares. I was commenting on the OP's inconsiderateness of some dog owners irregardless of whether it is poo, ****, or leashing.

CFrance 05-13-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SFSkol (Post 1543289)
My incident occurred in the 60's on the Atlantic City boardwalk. Hardly private property. There were a few friendly dog posts mentioned further in this thread, hence my decision to include my encounter. You misconstrue that I inferred that dogs attack people in the villages. Based upon my aforementioned experience any," friendly" dog that advances to someone, albeit a sniff or soliciting a pet is an invasion of personal space. That has occurred to me on many occasions as I frequent the squares. I was commenting on the OP's inconsiderateness of some dog owners irregardless of whether it is poo, ****, or leashing.

You were a child in the '60s?


My experience with dogs in TV is that they do not want to socialize with you (sniffing or soliciting a pet) unless they are a golden retriever. I think you had a bad experience with a dog that has put you off.

ColdNoMore 05-13-2018 03:24 PM

I think the problem of irresponsible dog owners in TV...could be solved fairly easily.

Simply require all dog owners...to register the DNA of their dog's poop.

DNA registry may put dog-poop deniers to the test

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An American company is hoping to bring its PooPrints Dog DNA registration to Vancouver. It works with property management firms to set up a DNA registry of tenants’ or owners’ dogs so that if someone says, “It’s not my dog’s poop,” there’s a way to find out if they’re telling the truth. Recalcitrant dog owners can be fined if it’s discovered it is indeed their dog’s poop on the bottom on someone else’s shoe.

The company says that when buildings sign up with the program, poop-and-scoop compliance rates rise dramatically.

I would think that the majority of dog owners who are responsible and always 'scoop poop' from their dogs...would even be for it.

It would easily identify those (I believe a minority here)...who don't bother picking up after their pooch. :shrug:

I also think that those who would be against it, are mostly the ones...who are probably the culprits.


:popcorn:

CFrance 05-13-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1543300)
I think the problem of irresponsible dog owners in TV...could be solved fairly easily.

Simply require all dog owners...to register the DNA of their dog's poop.

DNA registry may put dog-poop deniers to the test



I would think that the majority of dog owners who are responsible and always 'scoop poop' from their dogs...would even be for it.

It would easily identify those (I believe a minority here)...who don't bother picking up after their pooch. :shrug:

I also think that those who would be against it, are mostly the ones...who are probably the culprits.


:popcorn:

Yes, bring it on. We're tired of the blanket accusations.

tomwed 05-13-2018 04:52 PM

I don't need a DNA test for my dog. I know his family tree. It's out back near the rose bush.

ColdNoMore 05-13-2018 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1543303)
Yes, bring it on. We're tired of the blanket accusations.

I would think that most great, responsible dog owners like yourself...would feel the same. :thumbup:

Barefoot 05-13-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1541953)
I have copied the below comment verbatim, from a recent closed thread regarding what else?
Just curious . . . what do you think of this comment?

I think we need another boring dog poop thread like we need another roundabout thread! :ohdear:

ColdNoMore 05-13-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1543381)
I think we need another boring dog poop thread like we need another roundabout thread! :ohdear:

Speaking of which, I think I saw this sign when entering... one of the new roundabouts down south.


http://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/inc...og-fouling.jpg



:D

SFSkol 05-13-2018 10:39 PM

Caption:
"Dogs allowed to put out campfires."


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