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Taltarzac725 12-02-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1153742)
The USDA classifies PETA as a terrorist threat:
USDA Classifies PETA As A Terrorist Threat
As does the FBI. Good enough for me.

That's a dead link.

And there are going to be bad people in every organization.

Barefoot 12-02-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1153742)
The USDA classifies PETA as a terrorist threat:
USDA Classifies PETA As A Terrorist Threat
As does the FBI. Good enough for me.

I'm not sure what PETA has to do with this thread, but the information in your post is very misleading. Your website link led me to this clarification which portrays an entirely different picture.

"That either group was on such a list in the first place is troublesome in itself. Regardless, The US Justice Department announced today that activists from both PETA and Greenpeace, as well as other groups, had been "improperly" monitored in the years following the September 11th attacks. Members and activists were placed on the FBI's Terrorist Watch list for "factually weak" reasons between 2001 and 2006, a new report reveals. And the kicker is, the agency never found any evidence that either group was planning anything other than nonviolent protest:The Washington Post reports that the "FBI improperly opened and extended investigations of some U.S. activist groups and put members of an environmental advocacy organization on a terrorist watch list, even though they were planning nonviolent civil disobedience, the Justice Department said Monday."

Barefoot 12-02-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1153418)

I'm not even sure that dogs should be recognized as sentient beings. But I am sure that dogs should be treated with respect. Many people regard dogs as "disposable", like a dirty kleenex.

There are hundreds of thousands of dogs that have been surrended to shelters. Some people drop a dog off at a shelter when they have a baby, as "too much work". And some even leave a dog behind in an empty apartment when they move. There are so many stories of
severe animal abuse that it's heartbreaking. I won't even discuss them here.

Taltarzac725 12-03-2015 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1153821)
I'm not even sure that dogs should be recognized as sentient beings. But I am sure that dogs should be treated with respect. Many people regard dogs as "disposable", like a dirty kleenex.

There are hundreds of thousands of dogs that have been surrended to shelters. Some people drop a dog off at a shelter when they have a baby, as "too much work". And some even leave a dog behind in an empty apartment when they move. There are so many stories of
severe animal abuse that it's heartbreaking. I won't even discuss them here.

That's French law. I too believe that the law can go too far in other directions. People look for too easy answers when there usually are not any.

Arctic Fox 12-03-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1153418)

I'm waiting for the day when cats recognize people as sentient beings

Taltarzac725 12-03-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1153899)
I'm waiting for the day when cats recognize people as sentient beings

Mephistopheles, my older brother Robert's huge tomcat, used to beg for chicken from me. He would stick a claw in my knee from under the table to make sure that I did not forget him. Kind of hard to not notice Mephistopheles especially with a name like that.


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