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senior citizen 09-17-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by createquilts (Post 555001)
Had to vote I don't feel comfortable around them. Last year I rode my bike 1500 miles and was attacked three times- once a mailman driving by had to help me. Just yesterday I was walking down a path and a dog came flying towards me barking like crazy with the owner saying "he won't hurt you" while the dog is barking like crazy and charging around. It is hard not to freeze up and owners don't understand when you are afraid you are afraid. Almost like post traumatic stress. Obviously people see that I am freaking out and ready to have a heart attack and call their dogs away- I cross the street if I see someone walking their dog and try to avoid them, but you can't avoid all dogs in this world unless you live in a gated dog free community.

Now I have gotten to know many well behaved dogs and their owners - I can pet them and be around them without panic. We have even owned a few but I insisted they were very well trained and very well behaved.

edited to add this happened in NY state. While in TV I have had dogs come up to me, and several bark, but not loose. I still avoid them even on a leash.


I "hear you". My husband has been bit by neighbors' darling dogs, for no reason at all. Once he was riding his moped. Another time he was just getting the mail at the end of our driveway. A third time he wasn't bitten, but was charged at by a German Shepherd baring his teeth and growling while we were taking a hike in the woods. Again, for no reason.

We also have sweet dogs in the neighborhood; usually the smaller breeds. They are always welcome here.

I think it all depends on the pooch.

Also , it depends on the owner. Some people feel their dogs can do no wrong.

We always had dogs of our own when the kids were young; some were crazy....others were not. They all have distinct personalities. We also had cats which are a lot easier.....with no complaints from neighbors.

We are now happily pet free; it's much easier to travel without worrying about the pets. With five grandchildren to keep up with, we are happy, just the two of us.

p.s. When our daughter and her husband visited in the past, they always brought two huge dogs which are known for their incessant barking. Now that the dogs are older and one has died, they no longer travel with the dogs and the cats. Our neighbors are grateful and have ceased calling to complain of the excessive barking, no matter if they are indoors or out on the back deck or on the front porch..........they always begin the complaint with , "We know you have company visiting, but
we just can't take it anymore".

These huge Tibetan Mastiffs have also knocked over my frail mother, knocked over my husband.......again while on a hike..........and no one says anything.

Anyway, we did take our own dogs to dog training school ; sometimes it worked; sometimes it didn't. Again, it depends on the pooch and the breed.

The ones I would avoid would be dobermans and pit bulls . We have read of so many of those attacking people for no reason at all.

Pturner 09-17-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 555310)
Here are a few quotes about animals that I'd like to share with other animal lovers.

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
Mohandas Gandhi

Our task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.
Albert Einstein

Shall we, because we walk on our hind feet, assume to ourselves only the privilege of imperishability?
George Eliot

Life is as dear to a mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not die, so do other creatures.
His Holiness The Dalai Lama

Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals. And in this respect mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.
Milan Kundera, The Unbearable Lightness of Being

We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals... In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth.
Henry Beston

Love these, Bare. Thanks for sharing.

shcisamax 09-17-2012 05:19 PM

okay

uujudy 09-17-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.

Ay carumba! That's scary! A reminder to all of us not to venture too closely to the ponds with your appetiz.... oops, I meant to say little doggies.

Barefoot 09-17-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.

This is probably the most amazing post I've ever read on TOTV. Wow. :ho:

Taltarzac725 09-17-2012 06:12 PM

Glad you both bounced back from that ordeal.
 
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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.


My dog is staring at me trying to get me to turn off the thunder and lightning. Sounds like you did something like this for Bounce.

senior citizen 09-18-2012 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 555310)
Here are a few quotes about animals that I'd like to share with other animal lovers.

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
Mohandas Gandhi

Our task must be to free ourselves... by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.
Albert Einstein

Shall we, because we walk on our hind feet, assume to ourselves only the privilege of imperishability?
George Eliot

Life is as dear to a mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not die, so do other creatures.
His Holiness The Dalai Lama

Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals. And in this respect mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.
Milan Kundera, The Unbearable Lightness of Being

We need another and a wiser and perhaps a more mystical concept of animals... In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth.
Henry Beston

Great sayings.........

Here's a mystical thought.........we were told that our "grand puppies" who grew into those two massive Tibetan Mastiffs who ruled the home, were bred originally to "protect" the temples and the monks (in Tibet).

This would be why they would sprawl straight across the bottom of the staircase.......or across the threshold of the doorways or at the top of the steps near the bedroom hallway...........they were protecting us.
This is what we were told. It was difficult, to say the least, for anyone to step OVER them, impossible to go around them.....they just wouldn't budge as they were guarding our temple.

I would guess this is also why they barked incessantly.

We had free spirits of our own , with the two Irish Setters........
I could write a book about them....

Again, great post.

donkobes 09-18-2012 04:52 AM

Try This!
 
Lock your dog and your wife in your car trunk for 30 minutes. Open the trunk and see who's happy to see you....


A life without a dog is diminished.

***For the Golfer guy who was in Iowa, Kentucky, etc. I'm from Iowa City and went the same route via Army Airborne.

GatorGus 09-18-2012 03:44 PM

You are right. The word is out. I have been contacted by the Sentinal as well as TV and radio. The Villages reporter was excited about it. Then her editor squashed the story. I guess they thought it might hurt sales of houses next to water.

duffysmom 09-18-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.

:faint:

Taltarzac725 09-18-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 557237)
You are right. The word is out. I have been contacted by the Sentinal as well as TV and radio. The Villages reporter was excited about it. Then her editor squashed the story. I guess they thought it might hurt sales of houses next to water.

Please keep us posted when this will come out. :024:

paulandjean 09-18-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.

Where did this happen at? Which village did it take place at? What time of the day was it? Did anyone help you or you by yourself?Love to hear more about this. Is it in any of the newspapers,television or radio? Did you contact the police or community watch regarding a killer gator? Tell more.

graciegirl 09-18-2012 07:02 PM

I think someone is pulling on OUR back leg.

Barefoot 09-18-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 557310)
I think someone is pulling on OUR back leg.

When I first read the story, I thought it was posted by a Troll. But then PT seemed to know the people involved, Post #40? PT, are you messin' with us? :confused: Whatever, it's a great story!

CFrance 09-18-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 555659)
That's the reason we bought in The Villages. I know a lot of people would find it nutty, but we make all our life decisions with our pets in mind. We are dogaholics, and our plan is to always have two dogs.

We were having a problem finding a retirement community that allows large dogs, and more than one dog. Most communities allow only one dog and many have a weight stipulation of 25 lbs or 40 lbs. Not for us. When we saw that large dogs were allowed at the Town Squares, we were hooked. As we looked at resales in different Villages, everywhere we looked, happy people were walking dogs. And then we found the private dog park, Doggie Doo Run Run, which is heaven sent. So we have Biggins and LolliPop to thank for our decision to buy in TV.

We briefly considered a community in the Keys, but we would have had to cut Crosby in half. And then declare each half eight pounds overweight...

Pets are not pets anymore; they're family members. Even most motel chains have acknowledged that. So has the medical community acknowledged the benefit of owning a pet. I personally have trouble warming up to people who don't care to have a pet.

elevatorman 09-18-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 557310)
I think someone is pulling on OUR back leg.

Pulling the gators leg. Villages man saves dog: Villages grandfather saves dog from jaws of gator - Orlando Sentinel

It was at 1177 Harley Circle The Villages, FL 32162 Google address for map.

shcisamax 09-18-2012 08:48 PM

Great video. Lovin Bounce. What a brave man. Sheesh. Hope I would have the gumption to jump a gator in the lake if he got one of our dogs...oh wait.. That's why we made sure we had no water out back except the pool. :)

CFrance 09-18-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by donkobes (Post 557059)
Lock your dog and your wife in your car trunk for 30 minutes. Open the trunk and see who's happy to see you....


A life without a dog is diminished.

***For the Golfer guy who was in Iowa, Kentucky, etc. I'm from Iowa City and went the same route via Army Airborne.

That's hysterical, and I'm the wife.

graciegirl 09-18-2012 09:15 PM

WELL...I'll be danged. It WAS a true story.

We seniors are incredible. Bounce you are a lucky dog.

elevatorman 09-18-2012 10:07 PM

Just saw the story on the news. The gator was killed by wildlife officials. He is to be stuffed and will be at the front of the mans house.

Trish Crocker 09-19-2012 12:18 AM

Great story, not sure I would have the courage to do what he did. Steve and I would LOVE to have a dog, we both had dogs at one point and there is nothing like the love and loyalty you get. Right now it would be selfish to have one since we are both working long hours but maybe when we get down there. The only drawback is the ability to just go on vacation whenever we want. In the meantime, the cats will have to do. It's funny, neither of us were 'cat people' but we have really formed a bond with the two we have.

senior citizen 09-19-2012 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 557310)
I think someone is pulling on OUR back leg.


Unfortunately, NOT......

Villages man saves dog: Villages grandfather saves dog from jaws of gator - Orlando Sentinel

Barefoot 09-19-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elevatorman (Post 557357)
Pulling the gators leg. Villages man saves dog: Villages grandfather saves dog from jaws of gator - Orlando Sentinel

It was at 1177 Harley Circle The Villages, FL 32162 Google address for map.

This is really an incredible story. Lucky Bounce to have such a brave and loving Dad!

senior citizen 09-19-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorGus (Post 556936)
I found out that my Westie, Bounce, is more important to me than me. Last Friday Bounce was pulled into a pond by a seven foot gator. I heard her yelp and saw her in the gator's mouth moving out into the pond. I didn't think. I leaped and did a belly flop onto the gator. I was able to grab the gator's back leg and get my other arm around his tail. After a short battle with the gator, he released Bounce and we both got away. We are both fine.

You are so modest and humble in recounting your story, whereas it must have been quite a harrowing experience. You are a true hero. That pooch will be forever devoted to you and you deserve your new moniker of "Gator Gus". What an adorable pet.

For those with us with grandchildren and babies among that mix, toddlers, etc., it serves as a cautionary tale that there are alligators in those ponds.

When we'd take our teenaged children (at the time) to Sanibel Island which is known for their Ding Darling Wildlife Preserve, alligators abounded, yet the owners of the rental houses would pooh pooh it.
Better had we known how many there actually were and where they roamed (out of water)........but they didn't want to hurt the tourism.

We'd walk on the beach even.......and see the gators along the edge near the trees, sunning themselves........our daughter would warn her dad NOT to go up so close as they could SPRINT REALLY FAST.......Did he pay attention?? Of course not. When he'd take them canoing in the Ding Darling Preserve, there would be snakes hanging from the trees and I'm certain the alligators were in the water...........plus when we'd walk through the high grasses to get to the beach on the Gulf of Mexico.
Gives me the willies even thinking about it.

I just sent your story (Orlando Sentinal which I read every morning) to all my adult kids and such.......

In ending, we were very naive in our twenties when we lived for one year on the east coast of Florida.......during the heat of summer, early a.m., we took our 2 year old and 5 year old to a lake (more like a pond) nearby for a picnic........knowing we'd have to go back to our house before the heat of noontime, we held their hands and waded into the lake.........then packed up the car and left.

One week later, we read in the newspapers that a teenaged girl had been attacked and killed in that same lake/pond by a large gator..........we just weren't aware of the alligators at that time. After that, we knew. GLAD YOU ARE SAFE and the pooch as well. You will become the new alligator hunter in your neighborhood at TV, for sure.

steamdogman 09-19-2012 07:19 AM

Love the DOGS! Not crazy about the owners!

paulandjean 09-19-2012 07:34 AM

His screen name is "GatorGus" wonder if he came up with that name before or after this happened? Wow all of this in just his 2nd post? Boy what are the odds.

shcisamax 09-19-2012 07:41 AM

So I guess we know where Steve stands in the poll on dogs.

Dancing Queen 09-19-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tkret (Post 554993)
If dogs lived as long as humans lived and humans lived as briefly as dogs live, it might be a better world.

I agree whole heartedly.
I wish I was more like my dogs are all the time.

:doggie: Puppymomma

Tadpole in training.

shcisamax 09-19-2012 08:43 PM

Yes!

Figmo Bohica 09-24-2012 12:00 PM

The more peopled I meet the better I like my dog.


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