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JMintzer 11-15-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2029972)
99.999% of the time, people don't think their dog will bite.

I feel the same way about people...

Driller703 11-15-2021 11:17 AM

Pee
 
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Originally Posted by JeanC (Post 2029794)
We have two boxers. They are always on a leash! When I take them for a walk we encounter unleashed dogs that run from their own yard and come after my dog. It’s very scary. I have one dig who doesn’t react at all. My other dog has a lot of fear (rescue) because of this, his walks are minimal. But yea, one walk around my block with my dog, and I can encounter at least 3 off leash dogs that come after us.

Even to take a quick pee, we harness and leash both our dogs and walk them in our yard. It’s just not worth the chance to have anything go wrong.

A little off subject, but does dog pee kill the type of grass used in TV? In Virginia, it caused brown spots on the lawn. Here it seems like a type of crab grass.
Thanks

fdpaq0580 11-15-2021 11:32 AM

Here we go, again.
 
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Originally Posted by Driller703 (Post 2029989)
A little off subject, but does dog pee kill the type of grass used in TV? In Virginia, it caused brown spots on the lawn. Here it seems like a type of crab grass.
Thanks

Some will say "no" while others say "yes". The "no" folks are typically dog owners who take their dogs walking to other homes to pee. The "yes" folks have yards with dog pee brown spots in their grass. My opinion, as a dog lover and former owner is "yes". Go by your own experience.
Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion.

lsauls7537 11-15-2021 11:34 AM

Invisible Fence
 
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Originally Posted by jimdecastro (Post 2029791)
Can I get details on invisible fence? From where? What was the approximate cost? Thanks!!!!

Invisible Fence
ocala.invisiblefence.com
Phone 352 351 1055 Territory Manager Donnie Ray, his phone # is 352 804-3393.
Three of us all have the invisible fence. None of us have any issues.

Price depends on if you only want the front yard protected, or the back yard only or 2 loopes. We've had ours for over 6 years so I'm sure the pricing is way outdated. Not inexpensive, but lots of peace of mind. They spend as much time as it is required to train you....and your pet. They install, verify all is working well.

Linda

worahm 11-15-2021 12:37 PM

Keep in mind, invisible fence may prevent your dog from leaving your property however, it does not prevent a predator from attacking your dog. Invisible fence may put your dog at a disadvantage and prevent your dog from fleeing. I keep my dog on a leash whenever we are outside. IMHO, it is just not worth the risk.

The Caretaker 11-15-2021 12:48 PM

Anytime it is outside in yard or not.

valuemkt 11-15-2021 12:49 PM

My property
 
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Originally Posted by Fielder (Post 2029592)
Do I need to have my dog on a leash when we are out working on the yard or just when we leave our property? Someone told me today that he is supposed to be on a leash when i was out watering my plants today. I cannot find the proper ordinance to answer this.

If I was in a charitable mood when a passerby said something like that, I would kindly tell him to keep walking. But I'm not in a charitable mood when someone infringes on my rights.. So my comment would probably end with .. And the horse you rode in on ..

If it was a "friend" I'd thank him for the input, say you want to change the topic and have a beer.

metoo21 11-15-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2029910)
Many people think an invisible underground wireless electric fence is the best way to keep their dog in their yard. However, they are simply not as effective as you might think. Statistics suggest that invisible wireless electric fences are only about 70% effective.

Why invisible fences, just don’t work. | Pet Playgrounds DIY Dog Fence Kits

When a dog runs through it, they can't get back in even if owner is calling it.

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Originally Posted by The Caretaker (Post 2030009)
Anytime it is outside in yard or not.

^^^^^
What he said.

DonnaNi4os 11-15-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fielder (Post 2029592)
Do I need to have my dog on a leash when we are out working on the yard or just when we leave our property? Someone told me today that he is supposed to be on a leash when i was out watering my plants today. I cannot find the proper ordinance to answer this.

As I understand it there is a leash law in The Villages. If your yard is contained with a fence or because you are in a villa no one would care. As for invisible fences, remember that they don’t prevent other animals from entering your property. For the safety of your own dog, no matter the size, they should be on a leash. Dogs can become enticed by other creatures running around here and I have personally saved my neighbor’s dog from becoming road kill on more than one occasion.

Allen Dronsfield 11-15-2021 02:54 PM

We have a very arrogant neighbor behind us. They have no yard we however have a very large wedge lot which they think they can share with us, no regards for private property. Anyhow my wife was out spreading some cracker and bread crumbs for the wild critters when arrogance struck, the neighbor lady had her dog and herself in our yard and informs my wife that she doesn't want her dog eating that stuff, HELLO! quick fix remove yourself and dog from our yard and problem solved. This is just the beginning, the neighbor lady is sitting on our patio while her dog roams freely using our yard as a public dog walk. I was polite the first time and asked her to leave, the second time I was a bit more forceful and demanded she leave. Oh her and the husband thought they were creative and let the dog roam in the yard while they stood on their little strip of property. Well this made it a challenge for them as they had to come into the yard to pick up the poop. I ordered them out of the yard when they got offensive, they have some kind of idea that this yard also belongs to them. Sheriff told me there is no leash law in Sumter County, but that still should not allow others to freely use others yards as their own. What should be my next line of defense??

metoo21 11-15-2021 03:39 PM

Sheriff wouldn't probably know about any ordinances and covenants in The Villages.

asianthree 11-15-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Dronsfield (Post 2030046)
We have a very arrogant neighbor behind us. They have no yard we however have a very large wedge lot which they think they can share with us, no regards for private property. Anyhow my wife was out spreading some cracker and bread crumbs for the wild critters when arrogance struck, the neighbor lady had her dog and herself in our yard and informs my wife that she doesn't want her dog eating that stuff, HELLO! quick fix remove yourself and dog from our yard and problem solved. This is just the beginning, the neighbor lady is sitting on our patio while her dog roams freely using our yard as a public dog walk. I was polite the first time and asked her to leave, the second time I was a bit more forceful and demanded she leave. Oh her and the husband thought they were creative and let the dog roam in the yard while they stood on their little strip of property. Well this made it a challenge for them as they had to come into the yard to pick up the poop. I ordered them out of the yard when they got offensive, they have some kind of idea that this yard also belongs to them. Sheriff told me there is no leash law in Sumter County, but that still should not allow others to freely use others yards as their own. What should be my next line of defense??

Don’t agree with their behavior on using you yard as their personal dog potty. However, why are you inviting rats, and other rodents into your yard with bread and crackers.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2021 05:06 PM

Apples and oranges?
 
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2030069)
Don’t agree with their behavior on using you yard as their personal dog potty. However, why are you inviting rats, and other rodents into your yard with bread and crackers.

Neighbors are trespassing and depositing raw sewage on posters property and apparently feel they can invite themselves to trespass to use posters patio as well. Just what liberties might they take if not stopped.

Putting bread and crackers on posters own yard may not be advisable any more than putting up a bird feeder, but they are in their own yard, so, none of our business

JSR22 11-15-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2030088)
Neighbors are trespassing and depositing raw sewage on posters property and apparently feel they can invite themselves to trespass to use posters patio as well. Just what liberties might they take if not stopped.

Putting bread and crackers on posters own yard may not be advisable any more than putting up a bird feeder, but they are in their own yard, so, none of our business

It is a neighbors business. Several people on my street had rats chewing through their lanai screen. Someone had put up a bird feeder. Requests were made to take down the bird feeder and they took it down. No more rats.

Bogie Shooter 11-15-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2030088)
Neighbors are trespassing and depositing raw sewage on posters property and apparently feel they can invite themselves to trespass to use posters patio as well. Just what liberties might they take if not stopped.

Putting bread and crackers on posters own yard may not be advisable any more than putting up a bird feeder, but they are in their own yard, so, none of our business

I think it is everybody’s business if someone is feeding any wild animals.

fdpaq0580 11-15-2021 06:05 PM

I agree!
 
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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2030090)
It is a neighbors business. Several people on my street had rats chewing through their lanai screen. Someone had put up a bird feeder. Requests were made to take down the bird feeder and they took it down. No more rats.

I stand corrected! I did say it was not advisable to put out bread or crackers. I was focusing on "arrogant neighbors" comment that she didn't want her dog eating it. No mention of the possibility of attracting rats, etc.

In post quoted above, "requests were made" and it was removed. Regarding "arrogant neighbors", requests were, apparently, not enough to keep them form trespassing.

Certainly, no one should feed wild animals. Our food is unhealthy for our wild friends.

Thanks for bringing this point into the conversation.☺️

MrFlorida 11-15-2021 06:09 PM

I carry dog spray, and have a good lawyer.

MollyJo 11-15-2021 07:09 PM

Leashed Dogs
 
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Originally Posted by JeanC (Post 2029794)
We have two boxers. They are always on a leash! When I take them for a walk we encounter unleashed dogs that run from their own yard and come after my dog. It’s very scary. I have one dig who doesn’t react at all. My other dog has a lot of fear (rescue) because of this, his walks are minimal. But yea, one walk around my block with my dog, and I can encounter at least 3 off leash dogs that come after us.

Even to take a quick pee, we harness and leash both our dogs and walk them in our yard. It’s just not worth the chance to have anything go wrong.

Thank you for always leashing your dogs. Whether large or small, any dog running up to people or someone walking their dog could cause the dog walker to be pulled down onto pavement. The owner of the unleashed dog is responsible for any injuries caused to others walking with or without a leashed pet. If more people thought about the liability, they may think twice before leaving their dog off leash.

DaleDivine 11-16-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2029968)
Just for the record, the "invisible fence" is not perfect. I was the victim of a lab that, in the excitement of chasing birds, ran right through the shock area then couldn't get back in, so went roaming the neighborhood.
Also, person's afraid of or untrusting of dogs can see no evidence that the dog is under any constraint can feel threatened if the dog comes at them.

Yep, I have seen this happen as the dog chased a rabbit out of the yard. It made a loud yelp as it was going through the invisible fence then couldn't get back in their yard.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

valuemkt 11-16-2021 06:54 AM

OLD AND OUTDATED NEWShh
 
[QUOTE=metoo21;2030011]When a dog runs through it, they can't get back in even if owner is calling it.


Incorrect. When I had an invisible fence more than 25 years ago, smart dogs could sneak through the line or jump over it and be on their merry way.. And yes, they would get "zapped" if they tried to re-enter.

Newer, more expensive invisible fences broadcast much further. So Rover can't just jump the fence anymore .. He is clearly incented to get back to the safety of his yard.

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2029664)
Short answer is your dog doesn’t have to be on a leash while in your yard.

We have an invisible fence, which is effective in keeping our dog in our yard. Note that if your dog leaves your yard, you’re in violation. Also, as noted above, you want to be outside with it in case a wild animal tries to take off with it.

The dog has to be on a leash at all times, an invisible fence is an exception

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2029672)
The rules listed are for Sumter County and very involved to see/find a leash law. Sounds like as long as your dog will not leave your yard then a leash is not needed but if the dog tends to chase people or roam then a leash is needed.

No, the dog must be on a leash and under your control

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd2008 (Post 2029868)
Sumter County Leash Law.

sumtercounty-fl.elaws.us/code/coor_ch4_sec4-4
Direct control shall mean immediate and continuous physical control of an animal at all times such as by means of a fence, leash, cord, or chain of sufficient strength to restrain the animal;

Typical for most counties nationwide.

Note, the inclusion of fence
You can allow your dog to roam on your “Fenced” property, but must be on a leash if not fenced

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgodin (Post 2029901)
If your home is within Lady Lake town limits you can let the dog off leash in your yard but you must have control of the dog. A leash is required outside of your property.

No, only if fenced

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by spd2918 (Post 2029906)
This is an important point and deserves repeating.

YOU know that YOUR dog is friendly. The person your dog is barreling towards does not. I've seen Pit Bulls happily wave their tails as they ran to (and torn into) other dogs.

It is also just good manners to train your dog not to jump on people. I've had friendly dogs put their dirty paws on my uniform pants and squad car door.

Good reply, also some people are very allergic to dogs

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 2030010)
If I was in a charitable mood when a passerby said something like that, I would kindly tell him to keep walking. But I'm not in a charitable mood when someone infringes on my rights.. So my comment would probably end with .. And the horse you rode in on ..

If it was a "friend" I'd thank him for the input, say you want to change the topic and have a beer.

Your rights do not allow you to infringe on the “domestic harmony” of others or your neighborhood.

Travelhunter123 11-16-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Allen Dronsfield (Post 2030046)
We have a very arrogant neighbor behind us. They have no yard we however have a very large wedge lot which they think they can share with us, no regards for private property. Anyhow my wife was out spreading some cracker and bread crumbs for the wild critters when arrogance struck, the neighbor lady had her dog and herself in our yard and informs my wife that she doesn't want her dog eating that stuff, HELLO! quick fix remove yourself and dog from our yard and problem solved. This is just the beginning, the neighbor lady is sitting on our patio while her dog roams freely using our yard as a public dog walk. I was polite the first time and asked her to leave, the second time I was a bit more forceful and demanded she leave. Oh her and the husband thought they were creative and let the dog roam in the yard while they stood on their little strip of property. Well this made it a challenge for them as they had to come into the yard to pick up the poop. I ordered them out of the yard when they got offensive, they have some kind of idea that this yard also belongs to them. Sheriff told me there is no leash law in Sumter County, but that still should not allow others to freely use others yards as their own. What should be my next line of defense??

There is a leash law, call animal control.

valuemkt 11-16-2021 08:30 AM

Domestic Harmony
 
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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2030225)
Your rights do not allow you to infringe on the “domestic harmony” of others or your neighborhood.

And likewise, your dislike of dogs will not infringe upon my rights. So just walk by my house and mind your own business.

Bill14564 11-16-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2030220)
Note, the inclusion of fence
You can allow your dog to roam on your “Fenced” property, but must be on a leash if not fenced

You have asserted in several posts that dogs must be leashed while on the owner's property. Can you show an ordinance that states that? Yes, the definition of Direct Control includes those words but I could not find where the ordinance required a dog on it's owner's property to be under direct control.

I trust my dog and I trust the invisible fences but sometimes mistakes happen - and they can be costly. But, don't confuse safe practices with legal requirements.

dewilson58 11-16-2021 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2030247)
You have asserted in several posts that dogs must be leashed while on the owner's property. Can you show an ordinance that states that? Yes, the definition of Direct Control includes those words but I could not find where the ordinance required a dog on it's owner's property to be under direct control.

I trust my dog and I trust the invisible fences but sometimes mistakes happen - and they can be costly. But, don't confuse safe practices with legal requirements.

try: Animal Services | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

tophcfa 11-16-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 2030010)
If I was in a charitable mood when a passerby said something like that, I would kindly tell him to keep walking. But I'm not in a charitable mood when someone infringes on my rights.. So my comment would probably end with .. And the horse you rode in on ..

If it was a "friend" I'd thank him for the input, say you want to change the topic and have a beer.

Your charitable mood shows great restraint. Fortunately, we live in a wonderful neighborhood where the only comment I have ever received from passerby’s is, “would it be OK if I pet your beautiful dog”.

Fred2016 11-16-2021 09:39 AM

I would keep your dog on a leash while outside. What's the chance your dog runs after another dog or a person. It is not worth the risk.

dewilson58 11-16-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred2016 (Post 2030273)
I would keep your dog on a leash while outside. What's the chance your dog runs after another dog or a person. It is not worth the risk.

"You can't make me"

:ohdear:

tophcfa 11-16-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred2016 (Post 2030273)
I would keep your dog on a leash while outside. What's the chance your dog runs after another dog or a person. It is not worth the risk.

The chance is zero, unless one of us tells her it is OK. She is a very well trained dog and would never leave my wife’s or my control without permission. That being said, not all dogs are properly trained.

davebeau60 11-16-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jbartle1 (Post 2029787)
One fleeting moment, passing dog barking, unaware car with animal, wild critter and your fur baby would be gone forever, not worth risk.

I agree! I've seen a bald eagle eating someone's very large cat on top of a pole within view of our house. It wasn't a feral cat since it was so big and fat and bigger than alot of dogs I see here. Just FYI...

Rose Ann Vinci Igoe 11-16-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2029758)
Thank you for posting this. Found “Sec. 4-7. - Public nuisance animals” very enlightening. We have a neighbor that lets their dog just continuously bark on their lanai most morning when we are trying to have a peaceful breakfast on our lanai. They will occasionally scream “hush” but then just let it keep barking. Time to start documenting these occurrences.

actually, feel bad for the fur baby....he is barking at something, most likely wants to come into the house, and doesn't want to be on the lani alone. He needs company (fur baby bud) or toys to play with or just let him in the house period.

Kjbatl 11-16-2021 10:57 AM

Might have missed my post
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2030247)
You have asserted in several posts that dogs must be leashed while on the owner's property. Can you show an ordinance that states that? Yes, the definition of Direct Control includes those words but I could not find where the ordinance required a dog on it's owner's property to be under direct control.

I trust my dog and I trust the invisible fences but sometimes mistakes happen - and they can be costly. But, don't confuse safe practices with legal requirements.

The paragraph below is directly from the Deed restrictions for the area I live in, I think this language is in all deed restrictions so you are required to keep your dog on a leash in your yard. I have personally had an incident recently when walking down a street where two dogs came out of a yard across the street looking friendly. When they got close, they started growling and circling. I yelled at the owner who was on her phone, she softly called them back, they finally went to her. I like dogs, but you cannot predict how an animal will respond to a stranger. Keep your dog on a leash even in your yard, it is just a courteous thing to do with houses so close together. Even though your neighbors seem to not care when your dog runs to them, not everyone wants to pet your animal every time they walk outside.
From deed restrictions:
Birds, fish, dogs and cats shall be permitted, with a maximum of two (2) pets per Homesite. Each Owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to dedicated or reserved areas by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep
such pet on a leash. No other animals, livestock, or poultry of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Hornesite or on dedicated or reserved areas.

Bjeanj 11-16-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2030212)
The dog has to be on a leash at all times, an invisible fence is an exception

Perhaps either you don’t live in Sumter County and not required to obey its laws, or I have mis-read/misunderstood the Sumter County laws regarding dogs not needing to be leashed in their own yards.

Two Bills 11-16-2021 11:27 AM

Is it just me, or does anyone else find all this 'fur baby' stuff a bit nauseating?
It's a b*****y dog.
No wonder over half the mannerless mutts are out of control, poor little things are suffering from identity crisis! :duck:

fdpaq0580 11-16-2021 01:49 PM

Agree!
 
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2030314)
Is it just me, or does anyone else find all this 'fur baby' stuff a bit nauseating?
It's a b*****y dog.
No wonder over half the mannerless mutts are out of control, poor little things are suffering from identity crisis! :duck:

Full grown dog = dog. Baby dog = puppy.
Fur baby = derogatory term for child with hypertrichosis, aka: werewolf syndrome. Demeaning to both humans and dogs. Usually used to try and sound cute, or to anthropomorphize something not human.

While I like dogs, I hate it when people try to make their animal sound like something it isn't.


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