Pammy, My dog is truly my best friend. To me a pet friendly community means they are allowed. the sad thing here is that while you can't up a fence, alternative spaces are not created that would be dog friendly. I totally agree on that.
I gave up fencing when I decided not to buy a CYV; that was my choice.

Obviously this IS an issue or these threads would not go on and on. If one's head is not in the sand, that is quite clear.

As a pet owner. I accepted the reality of not having a fence and the challenge of toileting the animal responsibly. As a homeowner, I expect others to toilet their animals elsewhere without making excuses. I share your joy at the companionship of the pet, and that has nothing at all to do with respecting other people's property. That I enjoy my pet has no bearing on whether the neighbor should enjoy a load in their yard.

The key to your quote is "poop without picking it up"....that is foul!

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Thank you for putting into words what many responsible pet owners feel.

I can't believe I'm hearing this. If you live in a place like this, be prepared? No pet Villages if you don't want your yard to be a place for dogs to ****? Move out of the Villages to a larger lot if you don't like it? Have you lost your mind?

What gives you the sence of entitlement that you feel you can let your dog do whatever it wants on my lot? Pet friendly DOES NOT mean you can pee all over the place. Pet Friendly DOES NOT allow you to trespass on my property. You might as well kick in my front door and pee in the kitchen.

Please, curb your dogs!

But I have to disagree with this. Responsible dog owners do not allow their dogs to walk/poop/pee on other people's yards. This is SO easy to accomplish. Why take the chance of causing a homeowner distress?

I totally agree with you, CFrance! Just because a community is dog-friendly doesn't excuse bad behavior by dog owners. That would be like saying just because a community is golf-friendly, that excuses bad behavior by golfers.:icon_wink:

I don't want you to look at my dog and say, "oh, sh**!!!" I want you to see me walking my dog and have it be a non-issue for you. I want to protect my dog and his public image as much as I want to protect your property

To me, the key word in the quote I highlighted in bold/yellow is this: "provide".

Or more specifically, "Who" should provide for the needs of homeowners' pets?"

TV already "provides" more bang for our quality buck for people than any other place we've seen in the continent. Right now, the developers are trying to "provide" a large-scale, medical-home concept primary healthcare system for people. That is just one of dozens of things TV "provides".

So, should TV also "provide" a veterinary medical-home concept primary healthcare system too, because there are thousands of dogs living in TV, so that we don't have to load the dogs into the car and drive outside TV to a private-owned vet clinic and pay individual rates instead of group rates, too?

I don't mean to be "offensive" to say this, but I and others who've written me by pm think it needs to be said:

People are citizens of this community, where we all bought our own home and lot. Dogs are property, not citizens.

Property owners are expected to take care of their own property and livestock.

If taking care of one's property means paying for membership at Doggie Doo Run or other privately-run facility, then that's what needs to be done. If there aren't enough of these facilities, then somebody ought to form and fund another one or five.

If buying a bigger lot, or some acreage, where the dog(s) can run free off-leash is needed to take care of one's dog (property), then that is what the property owner should do.

When you bought in TV, you knew that it was pet friendly and residents were allowed two dogs. After I actually moved here, I was a bit surprised at the number of dogs in TV as I am sure others were too. Many Seniors love their dogs and they have become family---to some---their dogs have become more important than people----a bit over the top. A Dog, no matter how good a companion, is not more important than a human IMHO. 98% of Dog Lovers and Dog Others use common sense. Some may have reason to dislike being around dogs---maybe they have been attack or maybe they are allergic. Regardless, EVERBODY should be respectful. When TOTV had a political forum, you could opt out---a very good option. We can't opt out of the human race----so lets be more respectful of everbody's views.

Tom, are you having a bad day? If you re-read my posts, you are inferring a meaning that was not meant. No, I haven't lost my mind, but by your last comment, I think you are overreacting! Honestly, do you really think you will ban dogs peeing on the grass all over, Like at mailboxes and occasionally where they aren't supposed to 100 percent of the time? Is it just me? Or have I lived in a bubble most of my life? In my other neighborhood, or any neighborhood I have EVER lived in, this was Never an issue. I spend time and money on both of my lawns and a lot of time. Dogs walking by will pee by the road on your grass. All I can say is it doesn't bother me, but it does you! I certainly would consider things that bother me when purchasing a house, that is all I was saying. Don't expect you to move, no sense of entitlement! Just my opinion like you have one! I hope I didn't raise your blood pressure! Have a good day!

Being a dog or animal lover is not the point. I would never allow my dog to tresspass on anyone's property for any reason. It isn't necessary and when people do allow it I think they have a sense of entitlement and give the rest of us dog people a bad name. :boxing2: So there!!!

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If the entitlement posts are meant for me. I Never said I let my dogs do their thing wherever AND I don't need an explanation of what this means to be a responsible dog owner, I said it doesn't bother me and I will offer treats to dogs that come in my yard. If we allowed signs in our yards here, maybe we could let people know if your yard is dog friendly or not, just an idea! So we don't offend those who don't like it.

I have lived in a lot of places and have never seen such anger and malice directed at people and animals.

A week or so ago someone posted that their friend left meat with exlax in their front yard "to get their point across". Judging by most of the pets I see that would be the equivalent of an adult man ingesting 15-20 pills. Grant it, nobody would allow their dog to eat such a thing but sometimes pets get loose.

You don't have to voice every thought that crosses your mind, you don't have to act on every impulse. Every time I see a child out of control running around the supermarket I resist the urge to stick out my foot to trip them. Sometimes it's not easy-LOL.

As far as your precious lawns, the grass here looks like crabgrass to me. You probably couldn't kill it if you tried.

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