[jdsl1998]

Originally Posted by Parker

When my dog poops in my yard I pick it up, so I won't step in it, so it won't attract flies, and out of consideration for my lawn guys. If your dog poops in my yard, and you pick it up, I don't care about it. If your dog poops in my yard, and you don't pick it up, and I step in it, I'll be upset about it.

Well said. We live in a known pet friendly town. This is a very simple concept.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by jdsl1998

Well said. We live in a known pet friendly town. This is a very simple concept.

I agree to disagree. My views are not your views. I finally get this.
duh,
Kitty

[graciegirl]

I meant that I think that most people, the majority, are responsible. The ones that are not....nothing will change them on this issue or anything else that requires them to think of others.

And that is what is wrong with the world, with any community, with government and with social interactions of any kind.

We do not live on this planet alone. We need to take care of ourselves, our own family and belongings and watch out for others. We do not have a right to take what isn't ours, infringe on others rights and act like we have no responsibility.

A pet is a member of our family, if we wouldn't let our child poop in someone's elses area, well you can put the rest together. I am blessed that I have only run into one neighbor who set out with a pup and no bag.
He didn't seem to care about anyone else on other matters either.

Blessedly he doesn't read this forum.

I hope.

[birdawg]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Polar Bear, You've demonstrated exactly why this issue is unresolved, that in your mind you "totally respect..property rights" , consider yourself "well-mannered" and think it is reasonable for your dog to pee on the homeowner's grass.

I would consider your allowing the dog to pee in my yard to be ill-mannered, and disrespectful, and I would confront you too, even though MY dog is allowed to pee in my yard. The point is not the pee, it is that no matter what you are doing on my property, if you are there to help yourself to a piece of it, you have no respect.

Well said. it's about respect of one's neighbors

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by Parker

When my dog poops in my yard I pick it up, so I won't step in it, so it won't attract flies, and out of consideration for my lawn guys. If your dog poops in my yard, and you pick it up, I don't care about it. If your dog poops in my yard, and you don't pick it up, and I step in it, I'll be upset about it. Not homicidal, just upset.

Finally, the voice of reason.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Polar Bear, You've demonstrated exactly why this issue is unresolved, that in your mind you "totally respect..property rights" , consider yourself "well-mannered" and think it is reasonable for your dog to pee on the homeowner's grass.

I would consider your allowing the dog to pee in my yard to be ill-mannered, and disrespectful, and I would confront you too, even though MY dog is allowed to pee in my yard. The point is not the pee, it is that no matter what you are doing on my property, if you are there to help yourself to a piece of it, I will feel that you have no respect.

That said, I respect your having a different opinion and would gently ask that you not do that on my yard with a smile, the first time.

I must clarify one thing, then I'm (hopefully..heheh) going to bow out of this thread...

I am NOT one of those who will let my dog pee on your property. I DO respect your property rights. I don't foresee a confrontation in our future. :^) I was only stating my opinion regarding what is reasonable, not what I (and my dog) would do.

I would not appreciate dog owners taking advantage of my property either, like leaving #2 in my yard. I just don't have a problem with an occasional pee in my yard. IMHO, it's harmless.

[GeoGeo]

I don't mind if someone's dog is walking by and happens to poo in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. The pee doesn't seem to do any harm. The dog may have gone in its own yard before the walk. You never know when nature is going to call again. What irks me is that we had a neighbor who would let her dog do its business in my yard every single day. Never her yard. We didn't want to cause a war so we never said anything. That is what gripes me. A passing dog fine, but not those neighbors who think your yard is their dogs bathroom area. I also had a neighbor across the street that did the same thing with the neighbor beside him. And what about the people who take their dogs to places where the leash law is in effect and think they are abiding by the law just because they have the leash in their hand.....not attached to the dog....and the dog gets out of site. If they can't see the dog, how do they know if their dog needs to be cleaned up after?

[queasy27]

Okay, silver lining time!

At least most of the dogs here are tiny.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by queasy27

Okay, silver lining time!

At least most of the dogs here are tiny.

and mine isn't, but she teaches ME better manners, the regal Emma...
Kitty

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I must clarify one thing, then I'm (hopefully..heheh) going to bow out of this thread...

I am NOT one of those who will let my dog pee on your property. I DO respect your property rights. I don't foresee a confrontation in our future. :^) I was only stating my opinion regarding what is reasonable, not what I (and my dog) would do.

I would not appreciate dog owners taking advantage of my property either, like leaving #2 in my yard. I just don't have a problem with an occasional pee in my yard. IMHO, it's harmless.

I'm tired of this thread too, PB, and glad we see pretty much eye to eye...
be well and enjoy paradise!

[dmorhome]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Just a related question, since I feel a bit ornery today...

I haven't checked if this applies to TV, but usually sidewalk is placed a couple feet inside the right-of-way, not on the actual house lot (even though the homeowner is typically responsible for mowing the grass). So if a dog is allowed to use this portion of the right-of-way, does that constitute improperly using another person's property/lawn?

yes it does

[red tail]

I watched a gaggle of geese 'doing it' on private property this morning. they leave deposits much like a dog. their leavings do the same damage as a dog, which is not much!

[Roaddog53]

I think some are missing the point in much of the discussions. It is not the act of wild animals or birds that is the issue. No one can control their actions unless perhaps a fence is put up as a barrier. We used to live on a lake and the only way to stop geese, or ducks from pooping on the lawn was to put up a string along the edge and constant vigilance. Another reason here why directly living on a pond or prairie has a disadvantage. Lol
The point here is people control their dogs by the leash and their actions, whether they claim it being an accident or purposely that the dog/ owner is on the property. Who controls who than? That is why many say it is rude, and self-centered, let alone ill-mannered and the owners feel entitled to use what they want, where and when they want. Whether it be a golf ball, dog, walking for short cuts, looking in private homes, stickers on mailboxes, and so on...

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

I'm trying to get my head around why people think it's ok for dogs to go on private property (picked up or not). Can anybody help me who thinks that--what is the reasoning? I just don't get it.

Kittty, I don't think anyone here is advocating that dog owners think it is OK to go on private property! Even though we don't personally take our dogs to the mail station area, I do understand (with the lack of dog parks), that people want to sometimes take their dogs for walks off their property.

Of course, it goes wiithout saying, that all responsible pet owners in The Villages pick up after their dogs. Except for a few creeps. Probably the same yahoos that leave cigarette butts everywhere they go. Probably the same yahoos that throw coffee cups out the windows of their cars.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Kittty, I don't think anyone here is advocating that dog owners think it is OK to go on private property! Even though we don't personally take our dogs to the mail station area, I do understand (with the lack of dog parks), that people want to sometimes take their dogs for walks off their property.

Of course, it goes wiithout saying, that all responsible pet owners in The Villages pick up after their dogs. Except for a few creeps. Probably the same yahoos that leave cigarette butts everywhere they go. Probably the same yahoos that throw coffee cups out the windows of their cars.

Hmm. I read a lot of posts from people who seem to think their neighbors' yards are ok to pee and ok to poop if you pick it up...

Today I walked my dog past other dog-walking neighbors. They walked on the edge of the street with a 8 foot lead and let the dog walk in every single yard. They even walked their dog through yards located right across the street from an unbuilt lot where the dog could have gone...and where mine did go. It looked to me like they were walking carefully along the edge to allow the dog every possible yard to choose wherever it wanted to go. I'm gonna get a couple of "please keep off grass" signs.

I'm not trying to start a riot, but after researching laws, it looks like it is a first degree misdemeanor with a penalty of $1000 for trespass that leaves waste on homeowner yards. Please, no attacks. It's information, or how I read the statute anyway...