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DougB 07-22-2014 06:29 AM

Or chopping off a puppy Boxer's tail or constricting the blood supply so it falls off?

redwitch 07-22-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 911372)
Okay, but what about grooming? Is there outrage about making dogs stand for long periods of time in order to shave their fur into fancy clumps and lumps? What about the entire show dog/cat industry? Hauling animals around, sometimes cross country, putting them in crates for hours at benched shows, making them "perform" for judges and audiences? Not to mention selective breeding/eugenics to develop specific physical characteristics that may, in the long run, be injurious to the breed.

Actually, a good groomer never takes hours, even for the fancy cuts. As to showing dogs and cats, some critters love it. I had one Afghan who would bounce with joy every time I loaded the portable crate into the car. She knew she got to prance around and look pretty. I had another dog that hated it. I took him to two shows and that was it. If a dog doesn't like to be shown, it is patently clear in the ring and I've heard more than one judge recommend that the dog not be shown again -- it's just too miserable. I won't comment about benched shows since I totally agree with you -- no animal should be in a cage for that long.

Selective breeding is what it is. It has caused a lot of issues for a lot of breeds -- hip dysplasia, proclivity to bone spurs; aggressiveness; shyness. If purchasers would insist on getting complete breeding records and refusing to purchase a dog that has a lot of inbreeding, it would help. Sadly, you can't stop inbreeding programs any more than you can stop puppy mills unless someone has the courage to truly change and enforce laws. They are both obscenities.

Hauling a dog around is no big thing to my mind. Some dogs love to travel, some don't. If they don't, everyone is going to be miserable and, ultimately, the dog will not be shown.

What I hate more than anything is how some animals have to be physically altered (ears and tails docked). You'll never convince me that this didn't create great pain. Sadly, in the show world, it is necessary to achieve the "look". So, until there is a total change in mindset, show dogs are going to be tortured when young. Not sure what the excuse is for pet-quality dogs. One of the prettiest dogs I ever saw was a dobie that totally natural -- cute floppy ears, happy tail. He was such a sweet and happy boy.

Go to a few dog shows. You'll see that most of the dogs there are happy. They love to prance around the ring; they love when they win; they're happy guys and gals. The ones that aren't quickly quit being shown -- gait in the ring is a big thing and an unhappy dog just doesn't move right and, thus, doesn't place, let alone win.

And, now, back to the subject at hand. The dog is going to have to stand while the dye job dries. Unlike blowing dry a dog who has just been groomed, they're going to have to make sure the coat dries evenly and that the dog doesn't lie down until dry. So, much longer standing periods, plus longer standing period while the dye is applied. So, I still feel that dying this poor dog pink head to toe is wrong.

Taltarzac725 07-22-2014 09:04 AM

http://www.cesarsway.com/dog-care/do...-Is-a-Bad-Idea

I am with Cesar Milan on this one! Dying dogs colors is a lousy idea.

That poor poodle is going to need a dog therapist now.

CFrance 07-22-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 911397)
Or chopping off a puppy Boxer's tail or constricting the blood supply so it falls off?

I don't know about the tails, but there is a big move on to stop clipping their ears.

My problem with the AKC is breeding for looks instead of for temperament. I have never understood why ears and tails should be clipped.the only good thing about a short tail is it can't clear off a coffee table. Otherwise my vote is to leave the poor puppy alone.

CFrance 07-22-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 911372)
Okay, but what about grooming? Is there outrage about making dogs stand for long periods of time in order to shave their fur into fancy clumps and lumps? What about the entire show dog/cat industry? Hauling animals around, sometimes cross country, putting them in crates for hours at benched shows, making them "perform" for judges and audiences? Not to mention selective breeding/eugenics to develop specific physical characteristics that may, in the long run, be injurious to the breed.

Halibut, some breeds have to be groomed for cleanliness and other things. Our goldens had to be groomed to clip the hair out from between their toes, to achieve what they call a "sanitary cut" around their back end, and to thin out the hair in and around their ears so they will get aired out better and have less chance of becoming infected.

In the hot summer we would have the "feathers" cut off or get what they call a "puppy cut" so they would be cooler but still have the insulating properties of their coat.

Our Springer Spaniel and some other breeds (maybe schnauzers?) must be groomed because their hair will just continue to grow and grow. When his ears were practically dragging on the floor, it was time for a snip.

Halibut 07-22-2014 11:22 AM

Isn't is possible this particular dog enjoys prancing around and looking pretty in pink?

We have cats so I'm speaking from a non-dog-owning perspective, but I guess I don't see how coloring a dog's fur is any worse or different than many other things owners do to their pets, including spaying/neutering and other care that's purportedly for their own good. Our two cats are emphatically not happy about going to the vet to get shots, have their nails clipped or ears and teeth cleaned, never mind having pills forced down their throats. If Cesar Milan thinks dogs are psychologically damaged by having their fur dyed, what about having their testicles removed?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, truly. I think dying a dog is silly, but it ranks pretty low for me in the general scheme of horrible things some humans do to their animals.

DougB 07-22-2014 12:01 PM

Aren't dogs color blind? Does the poodle even know it's Pink?

Barefoot 07-22-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 911557)
I don't see how coloring a dog's fur is any worse or different than many other things owners do to their pets, including spaying/neutering and other care that's purportedly for their own good. Our two cats are emphatically not happy about going to the vet to get shots, have their nails clipped or ears and teeth cleaned, never mind having pills forced down their throats.

Bottom line, some procedures are medically necessary.
Having a poor pooch dyed pink is obviously purely for vanity.

P.S. There is a real feral cat problem in The Villages. It's sad. You often see them living in parking lots.
Sadly, cats often seem to escape from their homes, and many are not "altered". This increases the feral cat population.

redwitch 07-22-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 911577)
Aren't dogs color blind? Does the poodle even know it's Pink?

Dogs are not completely colorblind but it is believed that the reds show up as grey for them. Dog Vision

CFrance 07-22-2014 12:20 PM

I've known a couple of dogs that were scalped by groomers and hid under a table when they got home. Yes, a dog might know it's dyed pink.

But why take the chance that some of that nasty stuff would penetrate their skin? Would you rub food coloring on yourself?

Barefoot 07-22-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 911577)
Aren't dogs color blind?

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 911588)
But why take the chance that some of that nasty stuff would penetrate their skin? Would you rub food coloring on yourself?

Haha, be careful CFrance.
Dougbee probably frequents those booths that offer spray-on tanning! :girlneener:

CFrance 07-22-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 911608)
Haha, be careful CFrance.
Dougbee probably frequents those booths that offer spray-on tanning! :girlneener:

In pink!

DougB 07-22-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 911608)
Haha, be careful CFrance.
Dougbee probably frequents those booths that offer spray-on tanning! :girlneener:

Nope, this boy's full body tan is the real deal.

redwitch 07-22-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 911723)
Nope, this boy's full body tan is the real deal.

Definitely TMI

DougB 07-22-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 911724)
Definitely TMI

LOL. :1rotfl:

DougB 07-22-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 911627)
In pink!

Pink, green, purple, I would have no idea. I'm more colorblind than the pooch.

marianne237 07-22-2014 06:49 PM

Long and short of this, is the poor animal still pink? Or do you think perhaps that the dog owner might have gotten a message that this sad situation is wrong? Has anyone seen this dog since this item started?

CFrance 07-22-2014 08:11 PM

A good way to close this out... The poodle is probably still pink, it's a nasty thing to do to an animal, and maybe DougBee will tell us where he sunbathes.:pepper2:

Bonanza 07-23-2014 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 911557)
Isn't is possible this particular dog enjoys prancing around and looking pretty in pink?

We have cats so I'm speaking from a non-dog-owning perspective, but I guess I don't see how coloring a dog's fur is any worse or different than many other things owners do to their pets, including spaying/neutering and other care that's purportedly for their own good. Our two cats are emphatically not happy about going to the vet to get shots, have their nails clipped or ears and teeth cleaned, never mind having pills forced down their throats. If Cesar Milan thinks dogs are psychologically damaged by having their fur dyed, what about having their testicles removed?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, truly. I think dying a dog is silly, but it ranks pretty low for me in the general scheme of horrible things some humans do to their animals.

Please don't compare spaying and neutering with dyeing the coat of a dog or cat. A dye job is purely cosmetic and totally unnecessary. Spaying and neutering is not an elective thing any more; it is necessary. It reduces a pet's chance of getting cancer and more importantly, reduces an unwanted and sad pet overpopulation. All dogs and cats that are a "pet' should be neutered. They aren't the only reasons for neutering but there is not one down side to doing it.

Polar Bear 07-23-2014 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 911557)
...I think dying a dog is silly, but it ranks pretty low for me in the general scheme of horrible things some humans do to their animals.

Agree on both counts. Silly, but harmless.

michaelg 07-31-2014 12:01 PM

You can get color on your dog done at petsmart and the villages pet villas spa its pretty harmless to the animal but never do it yourself

Mamaderby 07-31-2014 04:59 PM

Saw the poor thing on Tuesday at Sumter Market Night

Barefoot 07-31-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelg (Post 916425)
You can get color on your dog done at petsmart and the villages pet villas spa its pretty harmless to the animal but never do it yourself

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 911588)
But why take the chance that some of that nasty stuff would penetrate their skin? Would you rub food coloring on yourself?

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 911127)
Putting dye on a dog is wrong. Period. For those of you who think this is acceptable, imagine how long the poor dog had to stay in position to get that dye all over it. Heck, most dogs hate to have a bath, imagine the reaction to being dyed and touched up and ..... Considering this was a head-to-toe job, the poor dog had to be on a grooming table for hours. Even with four feet, it had to be very tired when done.

Harmless? Surely pet owners can get attention some other way.
Here are some previous comments.

Polar Bear 07-31-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 916598)
Harmless? Surely pet owners can get attention some other way.
Here are some previous comments.

Yes. Again...silly, but harmless. Somebody posting that it hurts the dog doesn't make it so.

Chi-Town 07-31-2014 09:26 PM

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Oh no! Not the cat too.

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CFrance 07-31-2014 09:32 PM

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Oh no! Not the cat too.

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Ha ha! Cats are too self-respecting. You'd have to catch him first!!

DougB 07-31-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 916711)
Ha ha! Cats are too self-respecting. You'd have to catch him first!!

CATsup if you can.

CFrance 08-01-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 916719)
CATsup if you can.

That was very punny. :a20::a20:

GeoGeo 08-01-2014 08:21 AM

I am NOT into dying your pet a different color, but I guess to each his own. I have heard that it is safe, but has anyone checked with a veterinary to see what their take is on the subject regarding safety?


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