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Taltarzac725 02-23-2024 01:00 PM

I had a dog sitting job in Palm Harbor with two rather large dogs and the owner had them on very long leashes in contraptions like a fishing rod reel. I tried to take them out and within a few minutes they were entangled in the leashes. Nosey neighbors notified the dog owner of my progress as a dog walker and that was a quick end to that gig.

They were beautiful animals but cannot remember the breed. Maybe this one-- Saluki - Wikipedia.

This was a recent widow and the dogs were kind of her everything.

PhilG 02-23-2024 01:12 PM

As you have read - dogs are loved in TV. Many folks are dog starved and will go out of their way to pet them. Think the ratio of dog lovers to grumps is greater than anywhere.

JMintzer 02-23-2024 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2304121)
Lots of replies. T V is pet friendly. Get to know your neighbors. Mine straight up told me who is dog friendly and which houses aren't.

Dogs are not band from the squares; however, if your dogs don't like LOUD music avoid taking them to hear the bands. Truly not something most dogs WANT to attend.

Squirrel.... I find it horrible to see dogs teathered in golf carts while the owners are inside establishments. Are the owners NUTS???!!??

People move to T V and become waaaay too trusting (and pretty stupid sometimes) and leave their dogs in their carts on hot or humid days, which is typically 9 months out of the year. It is out right cruel.

I see dogs panting away while owners are sipping coffee or eating lunch inside. Makes me sick. Dogs LOVE THE RIDE not the WAIT.

Note to newcombers and travelors visiting FL it is illegal to leave pets in cars. Golf carts, it's an invitation to loose your pet. Please don't assume T V is a safe utopia for your pet to be left alone. Times, they are-a-changing!

You do realize that panting for dogs is completely normal, don't you?

It's how they regulate their body temperature...

JMintzer 02-23-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2304227)
You better figure that out first, before you get a dog. Mine went in my yard before we went for a walk.

And they never ever go again during your walk...

You must have one of those mythical, magical dogs...

Velvet 02-23-2024 02:53 PM

Dogs are very trainable. Most homes have a dog or two on my street, yet none of them mark anything. I think it is how they are trained. We have one quite dominant poodle. He used to, as a young pup, attempt to lift a leg but the owner would gently pull him away. She would take him in her cart to where he could go several times a day. Now days he’s an older dog and even when he goes to his friends (the other dogs’) homes on the street, he sniffs around their grass but that is it. He is invited to many doggie play dates and shows very good manners.

DonnaNi4os 02-23-2024 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304356)
You do realize that panting for dogs is completely normal, don't you?

It's how they regulate their body temperature...

Exactly. It is how they sweat and regulate their temperatures. However when the temps get severely hot here and when the sun is beating down, I keep my dog (mainly black with some white) inside in the air conditioning.

Loriemoms 02-23-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2304038)
Why do people insist on bringing their dogs everywhere? Dogs may be allowed at the squares but they shouldn't be. Why would you take a dog to a place with loud music & crowded with people? Dogs do not belong there nor do they belong at any public gathering, restaurant, grocery store or any other business. I don't care where pet owners walk their dogs whether on the MMP's, walking paths, or village streets BUT I do NOT want any dog doing his business in my yard whether the owner picks up after it or not.

I guess I didn't ask it properly. I dont plan on bringing my dog to concerts or activities. I like to walk and was wondering if I should avoid the squares. Have seen some disappointing mean posts regarding dogs in the squares. So was wondering about the "rules"

Loriemoms 02-23-2024 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304065)
My takeaway on this post:

You have already gotten a home here, and will be living here three weeks from now. And today - three weeks before you move in, is when you first decided to ask about the community's perspective of dogs?

If you really wanted to prepare yourselves, you would've asked these questions the first day you decided to even WONDER about the Villages as an option for your next move. What would've happened if you found out - three weeks before move-in day - that the only option for your two medium sized dogs was to keep them penned up in your courtyard for the rest of their lives? What kind of "preparation" would you be making?

SMH - what kind of dog-lovers would move in to a place that they believe bans their pets, and then wait til three weeks before move-in day to ask for confirmation.

Wow I must have hit a sore spot for you! I was reading so many anti dog posts and some pretty nasty comments I simply wanted to know if this was just angry dog haters or the general culture of TV. You know posts like yours. Full of judgemental nasty accusations. You don't know me or my dogs.

BrianL99 02-23-2024 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2304431)
I guess I didn't ask it properly. I dont plan on bringing my dog to concerts or activities. I like to walk and was wondering if I should avoid the squares. Have seen some disappointing mean posts regarding dogs in the squares. So was wondering about the "rules"

There are no specific rules for your dog in the Squares.

Common sense and the Leash Law are all you have to worry about.

If I go to one of the Squares, my dog usually goes too. What you read on this site, is a tiny but vocal minority of keyboard warriors. They're all experts on all things canine and come up with new theories all the time, on why dogs shouldn't be in the Squares. Ignore them.

BrianL99 02-23-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2304435)
Wow I must have hit a sore spot for you! I was reading so many anti dog posts and some pretty nasty comments I simply wanted to know if this was just angry dog haters or the general culture of TV. You know posts like yours. Full of judgemental nasty accusations. You don't know me or my dogs.

Being a new Poster, you may not be aware of the "Ignore" options.

Sooner or later, you'll realize that there are just some folks you just don't want to hear from.

I have a long list on "ignore" and I'm sure there's a long list who have me on ignore.

Loriemoms 02-23-2024 05:46 PM

I agree with you there...I dont believe in bringing dogs to restaurants etc. Suprised they are even allowed!

Loriemoms 02-23-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304440)
Being a new Poster, you may not be aware of the "Ignore" options.

Sooner or later, you'll realize that there are just some folks you just don't want to hear from.

I have a long list on "ignore" and I'm sure there's a long list who have me on ignore.

Yes I am learning! 😃

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-23-2024 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2304435)
Wow I must have hit a sore spot for you! I was reading so many anti dog posts and some pretty nasty comments I simply wanted to know if this was just angry dog haters or the general culture of TV. You know posts like yours. Full of judgemental nasty accusations. You don't know me or my dogs.

Yes, it's a sore spot. I see a LOT of dog-owners around here who claim to love their fur-babies, but put them at constant risk of injury or death on a daily basis. Or stress their dogs out every time they leave the house. Or show no respect for their fellow humans by letting Fido poop on their OWN lawn, BEFORE taking them for a walk around the block. And NOT putting Fluffy in the grocery carriage at Publix - and insisting that it's their "comfort animal" and they have the "right" to bring them.

I see people putting their dogs on retractable leashes, which means the dog is -continuously- pulling against the leash with every single step. And then there's the lady who literally drags her dog, who has a limp back leg, around the town square. And I mean drags the thing. He tries to sit and she just drags him behind her.

I see people stopping to chit-chat with their friends in the middle of the summer at the town square events, when the pavement is around 140° and they just force their dogs to stand there for several minutes at a time, and then walk those pets around the streets for an hour or more, without a moment's thought to the comfort or health of their beloved pooch's paw pads.

I see people who let their happy peppy people-loving animals roam off-leash, without thinking for one second that they are putting their animal's life in danger every time someone in a golf cart comes around the corner.

I see people who should've understood what they were getting themselves into, BEFORE deciding to move to a community, instead of waiting until they've already bought the place and are heading down.

I've seen people leave their mini-poos or whatever other tiny teacup they have, tied in their carports while they're out grocery shopping, leaving the little pups as easy targets for the foxes and predatory birds that live in the neighborhood.

These people are all probably very nice, lovely people. And I'm sure they think their pets are awesome. But their behavior doesn't demonstrate love for their animal. It demonstrates selfishness, lack of consideration, lack of preparation, lack of thought for their pet.

I'm a dog lover. It's BECAUSE I love animals so much that I take issue with people who don't ask these questions until after they've already purchased their home.

DrMack 02-23-2024 05:56 PM

Yes
 
Yes it is dog friendly however, Publix just banned all dogs.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-23-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2304453)
Yes it is dog friendly however, Publix just banned all dogs.

No it didn't. It is reinforcing its pre-existing rule of no PETS. That's not a new thing. They've never welcomed pets. But they'd been tolerating it, and "looking the other way" and refusing to do anything about it until recently.

Service animals are still welcome, as long as they are actively performing their duty as service animals. That means "four on the floor" - not in carriages or strollers or the arms of a person. It means on a short leash, not a retractable leash. It means the animal is heeling, not sniffing at products on the bottom shelf or at people.

BrianL99 02-23-2024 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304454)


Service animals are still welcome, as long as they are actively performing their duty as service animals. That means "four on the floor" - not in carriages or strollers or the arms of a person. It means on a short leash, not a retractable leash. It means the animal is heeling, not sniffing at products on the bottom shelf or at people.

You shouldn't just make things up. Checking on the facts before typing, is always a good idea.

There is no requirement that a Service Dog have "four on the floor", nor does Publix or anyone else, have a right to ask you anything about your service dog, other than the words "is your dog trained to provide a specific task related to a disability". The dog could be on a 50' leash or no leash ... or sitting on its hind legs in a shopping cart.

There's not even a requirement that the dog know how to "heel".

Altavia 02-23-2024 08:18 PM

New canine inspired recreation center
 
New canine inspired recreation center

The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community

Welcome to the Saluki Recreation Center, where this center’s name and design inspiration comes from the bond between Villagers and their cherished canine companions. Learn more from Devon and Tracy, who share a little about how Saluki Recreation got its name. Construction is well underway, with a planned opening this summer.

Located in The Village of Shady Brook and adjacent to The Village of Moultrie Creek, Saluki Recreation promises to be a hub of activity where residents and their guests can enjoy a variety of paw-sibilities when it comes to gathering with friends and neighbors for fun and laughter. From the family pool and exciting game room to the outdoor features like pickleball, tennis, corn toss, bocce, and shuffleboard.

Loriemoms 02-23-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304452)
Yes, it's a sore spot. I see a LOT of dog-owners around here who claim to love their fur-babies, but put them at constant risk of injury or death on a daily basis. Or stress their dogs out every time they leave the house. Or show no respect for their fellow humans by letting Fido poop on their OWN lawn, BEFORE taking them for a walk around the block. And NOT putting Fluffy in the grocery carriage at Publix - and insisting that it's their "comfort animal" and they have the "right" to bring them.

I see people putting their dogs on retractable leashes, which means the dog is -continuously- pulling against the leash with every single step. And then there's the lady who literally drags her dog, who has a limp back leg, around the town square. And I mean drags the thing. He tries to sit and she just drags him behind her.

I see people stopping to chit-chat with their friends in the middle of the summer at the town square events, when the pavement is around 140° and they just force their dogs to stand there for several minutes at a time, and then walk those pets around the streets for an hour or more, without a moment's thought to the comfort or health of their beloved pooch's paw pads.

I see people who let their happy peppy people-loving animals roam off-leash, without thinking for one second that they are putting their animal's life in danger every time someone in a golf cart comes around the corner.

I see people who should've understood what they were getting themselves into, BEFORE deciding to move to a community, instead of waiting until they've already bought the place and are heading down.

I've seen people leave their mini-poos or whatever other tiny teacup they have, tied in their carports while they're out grocery shopping, leaving the little pups as easy targets for the foxes and predatory birds that live in the neighborhood.

These people are all probably very nice, lovely people. And I'm sure they think their pets are awesome. But their behavior doesn't demonstrate love for their animal. It demonstrates selfishness, lack of consideration, lack of preparation, lack of thought for their pet.

I'm a dog lover. It's BECAUSE I love animals so much that I take issue with people who don't ask these questions until after they've already purchased their home.

Again sorry I even asked. We spent a long time researching didn't have any previous issues but started seeing this horrible scary postings about just about anything you can think of not just dogs. What you list can be anywhere..people suck. Please again you know nothing about me and I would NEVER treat my dogs like that!

wisbad1 02-23-2024 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2303926)
I didnt mean to start so many arguments.

It’s dog friendly, it’s owners we don’t care for, lol

LuvNH 02-24-2024 09:00 AM

I had a neighbor that I really liked, she would stop at the end of my driveway every morning for a chat. She had a snappy yapper on an extendable leash and she would let that dog run across the road in front of golf carts and people. I used to get so annoyed over it. Now she has passed, the yapper is on a farm in Tennessee and all is quiet. I miss her, but I don't miss the yapper.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-24-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2304639)
I had a neighbor that I really liked, she would stop at the end of my driveway every morning for a chat. She had a snappy yapper on an extendable leash and she would let that dog run across the road in front of golf carts and people. I used to get so annoyed over it. Now she has passed, the yapper is on a farm in Tennessee and all is quiet. I miss her, but I don't miss the yapper.

Those retractable leashes are so horrible, they should be recalled and not be allowed at all. If you had a collar around your neck and had to pull AGAINST it with every single step, you'd be yapping constantly too. The leash is spring-loaded, so it is always trying to shorten, while Fido is trying to either move further away or even just maintain his distance.

Every time I see a dog on one of those leashes I feel sad for it.

Velvet 02-24-2024 09:11 AM

There seems to be two kinds of “dog lovers”. Those that love the animal for what it is, and those that love the dog for what it can do for them. I bet they feel similarly towards people.

charlie1 02-24-2024 09:29 AM

you and your dog will be welcomed if you follow the rules and are considerate of others! Get to know the rules and follow the signs if posted (example: Nature trails do not allow dogs.) Like everything else, there are a few people that feel entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want with their pets. These people are the problem!

Jayhawk 02-24-2024 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2304648)
There seems to be two kinds of “dog lovers”. Those that love the animal for what it is, and those that love the dog for what it can do for them. I bet they feel similarly towards people.

Only certain people.

Jayhawk 02-24-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 2304665)
you and your dog will be welcomed if you follow the rules and are considerate of others! Get to know the rules and follow the signs if posted (example: Nature trails do not allow dogs.) Like everything else, there are a few people that feel entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want with their pets. These people are the problem!



Like everything else, there are a few people that feel entitled to complain about everything, whatever they want, whenever they want with their miserable life. These people are the problem!

Byte1 02-24-2024 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko (Post 2304224)
If you stay off your neighbors lawn, where is your dog going to pee! There is only a small amount of room by the post office boxes.chilout

You don't have a lawn?

Byte1 02-24-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304646)
Those retractable leashes are so horrible, they should be recalled and not be allowed at all. If you had a collar around your neck and had to pull AGAINST it with every single step, you'd be yapping constantly too. The leash is spring-loaded, so it is always trying to shorten, while Fido is trying to either move further away or even just maintain his distance.

Every time I see a dog on one of those leashes I feel sad for it.

You DO know that those retractable leashes have a lock on them that allows one to lock it at a specific length if one wishes? They work fine if one uses them properly.

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304440)
Being a new Poster, you may not be aware of the "Ignore" options.

Sooner or later, you'll realize that there are just some folks you just don't want to hear from.

I have a long list on "ignore" and I'm sure there's a long list who have me on ignore.

I have exactly ONE person on ignore...

And that is because they physically threatened me by private message...

That said, I know there are several who have me on ignore, mainly because I call them on their BS...

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2304444)
I agree with you there...I dont believe in bringing dogs to restaurants etc. Suprised they are even allowed!

There are more than a few places that allow dogs on their outside patios. Just as they do in other places around the country...

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2304453)
Yes it is dog friendly however, Publix just banned all dogs.

Except for service dogs... Which is entirely appropriate...

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304452)
Yes, it's a sore spot. I see a LOT of dog-owners around here who claim to love their fur-babies, but put them at constant risk of injury or death on a daily basis. Or stress their dogs out every time they leave the house. Or show no respect for their fellow humans by letting Fido poop on their OWN lawn, BEFORE taking them for a walk around the block. And NOT putting Fluffy in the grocery carriage at Publix - and insisting that it's their "comfort animal" and they have the "right" to bring them.

I see people putting their dogs on retractable leashes, which means the dog is -continuously- pulling against the leash with every single step. And then there's the lady who literally drags her dog, who has a limp back leg, around the town square. And I mean drags the thing. He tries to sit and she just drags him behind her.

I see people stopping to chit-chat with their friends in the middle of the summer at the town square events, when the pavement is around 140° and they just force their dogs to stand there for several minutes at a time, and then walk those pets around the streets for an hour or more, without a moment's thought to the comfort or health of their beloved pooch's paw pads.

I see people who let their happy peppy people-loving animals roam off-leash, without thinking for one second that they are putting their animal's life in danger every time someone in a golf cart comes around the corner.

I see people who should've understood what they were getting themselves into, BEFORE deciding to move to a community, instead of waiting until they've already bought the place and are heading down.

I've seen people leave their mini-poos or whatever other tiny teacup they have, tied in their carports while they're out grocery shopping, leaving the little pups as easy targets for the foxes and predatory birds that live in the neighborhood.

These people are all probably very nice, lovely people. And I'm sure they think their pets are awesome. But their behavior doesn't demonstrate love for their animal. It demonstrates selfishness, lack of consideration, lack of preparation, lack of thought for their pet.

I'm a dog lover. It's BECAUSE I love animals so much that I take issue with people who don't ask these questions until after they've already purchased their home.

Wow, you certainly see a lot...

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304472)
You shouldn't just make things up. Checking on the facts before typing, is always a good idea.

There is no requirement that a Service Dog have "four on the floor", nor does Publix or anyone else, have a right to ask you anything about your service dog, other than the words "is your dog trained to provide a specific task related to a disability". The dog could be on a 50' leash or no leash ... or sitting on its hind legs in a shopping cart.

There's not even a requirement that the dog know how to "heel".

One of the "experts" you. mentioned?

JMintzer 02-24-2024 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriemoms (Post 2304497)
Again sorry I even asked. We spent a long time researching didn't have any previous issues but started seeing this horrible scary postings about just about anything you can think of not just dogs. What you list can be anywhere..people suck. Please again you know nothing about me and I would NEVER treat my dogs like that!

Sadly, there are more than a few like that in ToTV...

You'll soon learn to ignore their nonsense...

Most people here are very friendly... Others? Not so much...

fdpaq0580 02-24-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304472)
You shouldn't just make things up. Checking on the facts before typing, is always a good idea.

There is no requirement that a Service Dog have "four on the floor", nor does Publix or anyone else, have a right to ask you anything about your service dog, other than the words "is your dog trained to provide a specific task related to a disability". The dog could be on a 50' leash or no leash ... or sitting on its hind legs in a shopping cart.

There's not even a requirement that the dog know how to "heel".

But there should be!

BrianL99 02-24-2024 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2304472)
You shouldn't just make things up. Checking on the facts before typing, is always a good idea.

There is no requirement that a Service Dog have "four on the floor", nor does Publix or anyone else, have a right to ask you anything about your service dog, other than the words "is your dog trained to provide a specific task related to a disability". The dog could be on a 50' leash or no leash ... or sitting on its hind legs in a shopping cart.

There's not even a requirement that the dog know how to "heel".

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304844)
But there should be!

I agree.

The entire Service Dog thing has turned into a joke. I have no objection to a blind or otherwise seriously impaired person, having a legitimate Service Dog that allows them to live a reasonable life. Unfortunately, ADA compliance zealots have turned Service Animals into a cottage industry.

We have hotels and not a day goes by, we don't get into some sort of controversy, regarding a so-called "Service Dog". Unfortunately, plaintiff attorneys are making a small fortune, torturing business owners and the government is making it possible.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-24-2024 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2304798)
You DO know that those retractable leashes have a lock on them that allows one to lock it at a specific length if one wishes? They work fine if one uses them properly.

Most people don't lock them. If they did, it wouldn't be a problem. I can count on one hand the number of people who have retractable leashes for their dogs, who let the leash out just to the length they want it for and lock it in place for the duration of their walk.

And if you're going to do that, why not just buy a regular leash at the length you need it to be? You can do a search on your search engine of choice for "retractable leash" for the opinions of dog trainers, dog groomers, emergency room employees who've had to deal with finger amputations of people who use these leashes -

it's a big enough problem that there are pages and pages and pages of documentation from a wide variety of sources.

oldtimes 02-25-2024 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304898)
Most people don't lock them. If they did, it wouldn't be a problem. I can count on one hand the number of people who have retractable leashes for their dogs, who let the leash out just to the length they want it for and lock it in place for the duration of their walk.

And if you're going to do that, why not just buy a regular leash at the length you need it to be? You can do a search on your search engine of choice for "retractable leash" for the opinions of dog trainers, dog groomers, emergency room employees who've had to deal with finger amputations of people who use these leashes -

it's a big enough problem that there are pages and pages and pages of documentation from a wide variety of sources.

Have you also noted in your extensive investigations that most people also use harnesses so that these leashes do not pull on the dog’s neck? It seems the retractable leashes are more dangerous to the owners than the dogs.

oldtimes 02-25-2024 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304838)
Wow, you certainly see a lot...

Must be one of the ladies who drive around in their golf carts with a clipboard

BrianL99 02-25-2024 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304452)

I see people putting their dogs on retractable leashes, which means the dog is -continuously- pulling against the leash with every single step.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2304977)
Have you also noted in your extensive investigations that most people also use harnesses so that these leashes do not pull on the dog’s neck? It seems the retractable leashes are more dangerous to the owners than the dogs.


Where do you people come up with this stuff?

I have 3 "retractable leashes". I just tested all of them. The are essentially "free-wheeling". An empty teacup hooked to the end of the leash, is sufficient to extend them.

That's certainly not hurting a dogs neck. Straining on a non-retractable leash may be different story.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-25-2024 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2305046)
Where do you people come up with this stuff?

I have 3 "retractable leashes". I just tested all of them. The are essentially "free-wheeling". An empty teacup hooked to the end of the leash, is sufficient to extend them.

That's certainly not hurting a dogs neck. Straining on a non-retractable leash may be different story.

It's not about hurting a dog's neck. It's about "resistance." When a retractable leash is unlocked, the DEFAULT of the dog's mentality is to resist the pull. It puts the dog into a mental state that prepares them to get AWAY from you. If a dog is resisting the leash, then it isn't relaxed. If a leash is made such that it is impossible to relax and the dog MUST resist it, then the dog is not capable of being truly relaxed. It's on alert. It isn't panicking, it's not that kind of stress. But it is absolutely a mental and physical stressor, to be attached to something that is continuously attempting to pull the dog closer to the owner's hand on the other end of the leash.

Letting the leash out to a full 12 feet is dangerous, because if someone is zooming by in a golf cart and you don't react quickly enough, your pooch can easily end up getting run over, or jump on the golf cart (that happened to me, a neighbor's dog jumped on my cart while the owner was holding a fully-extended retractable leash).

As I said you can run a search on this stuff, it's not hidden or secret, it's not something that should be a shock to anyone, it's been known ever since these leashes first came out and confirmed time and time again.

It teaches the dog to pull on the leash. So when you have it locked, the dog will continue to try and pull on it because that's what you've trained it to do. That's not a healthy way for a dog to behave when you're taking a dog for a walk.


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