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Bogie Shooter 05-26-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 682260)
This is probably going to be the most effective post on here for sure. Anytime now, I wouldnt be surprised if the local sherriff comes to my house to arrest me. Did you ever play the game, whisper in my ear and I'll tell another and when the game is over the story changed completely? This seems to happen with many blogs that are not read completely. So tomorrows headline will be Stonecrest Man abuses child.

Just reading your posts out of the 80 posts......................will make anyone's head spin.
Just what are you trying to accomplish? In two sentences, please.

silvertoken 05-26-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 682261)
Just reading your post out of the 80 posts......................will make anyone's head spin.
Just what are you trying to accomplish? In two sentences, please.

Oops !! Bogie no need to say more. :22yikes: You were always my favorite head spinner.

Golfingnut 05-26-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 682261)
Just reading your post out of the 80 posts......................will make anyone's head spin.
Just what are you trying to accomplish? In two sentences, please.

A big DITTO on this post.

gomoho 05-26-2013 01:36 PM

Redwitch - did I miss something??? You said a "visiting" grandchild, I think the OP said she lives in the home with her mother and grandparents.

And why is she still in diapers at 3 years old???

Halle 05-26-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 682095)
This has got to be the strangest thread I've ever seen.

:agree:

DougB 05-26-2013 05:28 PM

Appears Stonecrest doesn't have any one with any kind of leadership skills or the intelligence to solve their dog park problems so they are asking The Villages to solve it for them???

silvertoken 05-26-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 682406)
Appears Stonecrest doesn't have any one with any kind of leadership skills or the intelligence to solve their dog park problems so they are asking The Villages to solve it for them???

Thanks Doug

silvertoken 05-26-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Halle (Post 682397)
:agree:

Thanks Halle

redwitch 05-26-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 682268)
Redwitch - did I miss something??? You said a "visiting" grandchild, I think the OP said she lives in the home with her mother and grandparents.

And why is she still in diapers at 3 years old???

I said "visiting" because it could just as easily be another grandchild visiting there who gets bit and, so far as I know, we don't know if the child in question actually lives there, is taken care by the grandparents while mom works, is there every day, etc. I'd just rather not assume that which I do not know too often.

As to the diaper question -- it is flat out none of our business. There may be physical reasons; there may be psychological reasons; it may be poor parenting.

Patty55 05-26-2013 08:26 PM

They should electrify the fence, that would keep the children and animals away from it.

ilovetv 05-26-2013 08:37 PM

This is not directed at anybody in particular. As a dog owner all my life, I do not understand why residents in TV or Stonecrest think the development should provide a communal dog pooping and running facility.

We have lived in 7 different suburbs in midwestern states before coming here, and in all of them, dogs are kept in their own yards with either invisible fence or constructed fencing, and they relieve themselves in their own yard.

When owners walk their dogs, they pick up the dog logs with a bag and bring it home. Nobody formed a club to demand that the developers, township board, or the city council buy or give land for a dog park and insure it and the users for liability!

If a dog is so big that it needs acreage to run on, then many owners do buy a place more in the country, with a bigger lot or they get a farmette of a few acres. This is all an issue the dog owner must deal with, not the other homeowners.

It's not a developer's nor municipality's responsibility to provide fenced, insured parks for dogs to run and poop in, when many cities cannot afford the rising costs of their municipalities' swimming pools and lifeguard staffing, ballparks, Parks & Rec Departments, public golf courses, etc.!

chuckinca 05-26-2013 09:06 PM

Silvertoken:

Why don't you and your group use the very large designated dog use open space long the same fence line approximately 1/2 mile West that doesn't border Villages homes?

The Villages homes in this thread are on W. Schwartz in Country Club Hills Village of the historic section - not Spanish Springs.

The fence was installed by the Stonecrest Developer - on his property in Marion County; the villages homes in that area are in Lake County.

A home run hit over the right field fence could injure a dog or owner in the area between Dollar Tree and the softball field.

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silvertoken 05-27-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 682529)
Silvertoken:

Why don't you and your group use the very large designated dog use open space long the same fence line approximately 1/2 mile West that doesn't border Villages homes?

The Villages homes in this thread are on W. Schwartz in Country Club Hills Village of the historic section - not Spanish Springs.

The fence was installed by the Stonecrest Developer - on his property in Marion County; the villages homes in that area are in Lake County.

A home run hit over the right field fence could injure a dog or owner in the area between Dollar Tree and the softball field.

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We picked 3 places and that one would be the cheapest as far as fencing is concerned, we will padlock the area when there is a ball game.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 682512)
This is not directed at anybody in particular. As a dog owner all my life, I do not understand why residents in TV or Stonecrest think the development should provide a communal dog pooping and running facility.

We have lived in 7 different suburbs in midwestern states before coming here, and in all of them, dogs are kept in their own yards with either invisible fence or constructed fencing, and they relieve themselves in their own yard.

When owners walk their dogs, they pick up the dog logs with a bag and bring it home. Nobody formed a club to demand that the developers, township board, or the city council buy or give land for a dog park and insure it and the users for liability!
If a dog is so big that it needs acreage to run on, then many owners do buy a place more in the country, with a bigger lot or they get a farmette of a few acres. This is all an issue the dog owner must deal with, not the other homeowners.

It's not a developer's nor municipality's responsibility to provide fenced, insured parks for dogs to run and poop in, when many cities cannot afford the rising costs of their municipalities' swimming pools and lifeguard staffing, ballparks, Parks & Rec Departments, public golf courses, etc.!

Its not just for dogs for also for people to enjoy the outdoors and socialize. Try it sometimes you may be surprised. Many folks lose their loved ones and need a friend, this also benefits them. Also a great place to plan events for the community.

rp001 05-27-2013 10:53 AM

sarcasm
 
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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 682742)
Its not just for dogs for also for people to enjoy the outdoors and socialize. Try it sometimes you may be surprised. Many folks lose their loved ones and need a friend, this also benefits them. Also a great place to plan events for the community.

I may be misunderstanding the intent but I do see a lot of Sarcasm in your posts, and I don't choose to read them.

ilovetv 05-27-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 682742)
Its not just for dogs for also for people to enjoy the outdoors and socialize. Try it sometimes you may be surprised. Many folks lose their loved ones and need a friend, this also benefits them. Also a great place to plan events for the community.

There are plenty of clubs and activities already in place at Stonecrest, designed expressly for "people to enjoy the outdoors and socialize". Obviously, there are land, insurance and fecal contamination problems involved in a dog park that the other social clubs/activities do not have. They are listed as:

"Here is a sample of some of the clubs, activities and classes offered here...

Aerobics
Billiards
Book
Bridge
Bunco
Canasta
Computers
Cooking
East Coast
Golf
Horseshoes
Mah Jongg
Midwest
Pickleball
Photography
Singles
Softball
Tennis"
Stonecrest Summerfield FL - Stone Crest Florida

chuckinca 05-27-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 682731)
We picked 3 places and that one would be the cheapest as far as fencing is concerned, we will padlock the area when there is a ball game.

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 682529)
Silvertoken:

Why don't you and your group use the very large designated dog use open space long the same fence line approximately 1/2 mile West that doesn't border Villages homes?


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You didn't answer the question.

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justjim 05-27-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 681997)
I will say it before Gracie does: BOY HOWDY

Gracie must be on vacation----too bad as maybe she could make some sense of this Thread! Electric power lines----TV has a Recreation Trail on/under power lines and I assume on a power companies right away near the north end of TV and close by Lopez. Point is---using such right away is not unheard of and must be legal with permission. We had dogs in the past and they became like family but given all that I have read, seen and heard----glad we didn't replace our "candy" dog when she passed 10 years ago. Boy Howdy is right!

silvertoken 05-27-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rp001 (Post 682761)
I may be misunderstanding the intent but I do see a lot of Sarcasm in your posts, and I don't choose to read them.

Sorry about that.

Golfingnut 05-27-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 682819)
Gracie must be on vacation----too bad as maybe she could make some sense of this Thread! Electric power lines----TV has a Recreation Trail on/under power lines and I assume on a power companies right away near the north end of TV and close by Lopez. Point is---using such right away is not unheard of and must be legal with permission. We had dogs in the past and they became like family but given all that I have read, seen and heard----glad we didn't replace our "candy" dog when she passed 10 years ago. Boy Howdy is right!

I am worried about Gracie. She got real sarcastic for a few days then now she is gone. Hope everything is OK with her and Sweetie.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 682790)
You didn't answer the question.

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They've also been chased away by Stonecrest residence from years past..just for walking dog I believe, I wasnt living here when that incident
occured. That is why they dont go there.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jane032657 (Post 682097)
We pay $30 a month and take our dog to Doggie Doo Run on County Road 101. My husband gets up and out by 7 am, loads the two dogs, they run and run and run in a secure acreage private dog park, and then he brings them home and they sleep all day. A perfect solution, take the dogs for a ride, pay your dues, and watch your dogs have a great time. A dog park for dogs, a separate area for small dogs, a dog bath available. And you put flags where they poop and the staff clean up throughout the day. What could be better?

Excellent place, went there today,luv it.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 682819)
Gracie must be on vacation----too bad as maybe she could make some sense of this Thread! Electric power lines----TV has a Recreation Trail on/under power lines and I assume on a power companies right away near the north end of TV and close by Lopez. Point is---using such right away is not unheard of and must be legal with permission. We had dogs in the past and they became like family but given all that I have read, seen and heard----glad we didn't replace our "candy" dog when she passed 10 years ago. Boy Howdy is right!

Having a dog these days is like smoking cigarettes in a restuarant.

EdV 05-27-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 682063)
I am totally confused by this thread. We have a group of Stonecrest folks using an electric company right away as a place for their dogs to play, pee and poop.....

For those adding to the confusion about the Right of Way issue, let me try to clear up something.

The entire southern border of Stonecrest has a 30 yard wide strip of land that is owned by the Stonecrest POA. The POA has granted the electric company a right of way for their power lines that run the entire length of that border on towers that are erected on Stonecrest’s property. This right of way does not preclude the use of that land by the POA or its residents provided that doing so does not interfere with the electric company’s use.

There are signs along the fence line that remind Stonecrest to keep their dogs on a leash and pick up after them.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 682769)
There are plenty of clubs and activities already in place at Stonecrest, designed expressly for "people to enjoy the outdoors and socialize". Obviously, there are land, insurance and fecal contamination problems involved in a dog park that the other social clubs/activities do not have. They are listed as:

"Here is a sample of some of the clubs, activities and classes offered here...

Aerobics
Billiards
Book
Bridge
Bunco
Canasta
Computers
Cooking
East Coast
Golf
Horseshoes
Mah Jongg
Midwest
Pickleball
Photography
Singles
Softball
Tennis"
Stonecrest Summerfield FL - Stone Crest Florida

There will be a SBC meeting next month on this subject. They will be taking questions following their work shop discussion and will be able to voice their concern. Stonecrest Residence only.

JB in TV 05-27-2013 02:57 PM

I'm not sure why this thread is in the "Lifestyles in the Villages" area...shouldn't it be in the "Non Villages Discusion area"? In fact, why is this thread still active? The OP has now stated the meeting in question (I THINK this meeting applies to his concerns?????) is only open to Stonecrest Residents? Amazing...............

silvertoken 05-27-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EdV (Post 682894)
For those adding to the confusion about the Right of Way issue, let me try to clear up something.

The entire southern border of Stonecrest has a 30 yard wide strip of land that is owned by the Stonecrest POA. The POA has granted the electric company a right of way for their power lines that run the entire length of that border on towers that are erected on Stonecrest’s property. This right of way does not preclude the use of that land by the POA or its residents provided that doing so does not interfere with the electric company’s use.

There are signs along the fence line that remind Stonecrest to keep their dogs on a leash and pick up after them.

I think they may change the sign to read "keep dog on leash in hand". May be too expensive to do, and hopefully forgetaboutit. Leashes these days get slippery.

EdV 05-27-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 682529)
Silvertoken:

Why don't you and your group use the very large designated dog use open space long the same fence line approximately 1/2 mile West that doesn't border Villages homes?

I was wondering the same thing Chuck. That area shown in the attachments seems much better as a temporary gathering place (leashes still required).

I too don’t know what Silvertoken is trying to accomplish with this post. In the meantime here are a few thoughts for him from a fellow Stonecrest resident:

You knew that Stonecrest has a strictly enforced leash policy when you purchased here.

The entire Stonecrest community plans, including every one of the planned amenity facilities was laid out over a decade ago. Those plans as well a scaled three dimensional layout is available for viewing in the sales office near the front gate. No such gated dog park was ever planned or contemplated.

So what you’re club is asking for is that the residents of Stonecrest should pay for the building of a capital improvement recreational facility that was never planned for.

Keep in mind that for many years, the garden club was using a plot of land owned by the developer for irrigated vegetable beds. But the developer now has a buyer of that land and when he offered to instead lease the property to the garden club with club funds, they folded up and walked away. So if the developer has not yet closed the deal with the prospective owners, maybe your dog club can lease the area instead. It’s already fenced and it’s got water too.

DougB 05-27-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JB in TV (Post 682928)
I'm not sure why this thread is in the "Lifestyles in the Villages" area...shouldn't it be in the "Non Villages Discusion area"? In fact, why is this thread still active? The OP has now stated the meeting in question (I THINK this meeting applies to his concerns?????) is only open to Stonecrest Residents? Amazing...............

I guess because some attended Villager's grandkid stuck his hand through the fence and got dog feces on it??? No idea, really.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EdV (Post 682964)
I was wondering the same thing Chuck. That area shone in the attachments seems much better as a temporary gathering place (leashes still required).

I too don’t know what Silvertoken is trying to accomplish with this post. In the meantime here are a few thoughts for him from a fellow Stonecrest resident:

You knew that Stonecrest has a strictly enforced leash policy when you purchased here.

The entire Stonecrest community plans, including every one of the planned amenity facilities was laid out over a decade ago. Those plans as well a scaled three dimensional layout is available for viewing in the sales office near the front gate. No such gated dog park was ever planned or contemplated.

So what you’re club is asking for is that the residents of Stonecrest should pay for the building of a capital improvement recreational facility that was never planned for.

Keep in mind that for many years, the garden club was using a plot of land owned by the developer for irrigated vegetable beds. But the developer now has a buyer of that land and when he offered to instead lease the property to the garden club with club funds, they folded up and walked away. So if the developer has not yet closed the deal with the prospective owners, maybe your dog club can lease the area instead. It’s already fenced and it’s got water too.

29 May 10:15AM POA office, You are welcome to join us to discuss this further.

silvertoken 05-27-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 682969)
I guess because some attended Villager's grandkid stuck his hand through the fence and got dog feces on it??? No idea, really.

Never trust a baby with many strange dogs Doug. Many parents would agree with me.

Bogie Shooter 05-27-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 683001)
Never trust a baby with many strange dogs Doug. Many parents would agree with me.

Give it up................................
And I recall another line "Scarlet I don't give a damn".

silvertoken 05-27-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 683003)
Give it up................................
And I recall another line "Scarlet I don't give a damn".

Great news Bogie, the moderator informed me they have an ignore button. Hope that'll work for you. How you doing today? I wanted to make sure I answered everyones post as nicely as possible.

Bogie Shooter 05-27-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by silvertoken (Post 683011)
Great news Bogie, the moderator informed me they have an ignore button. Hope that'll work for you. How you doing today? I wanted to make sure I answered everyones post as nicely as possible.

I'm doing fine, glad you took your medicine.

TOTV Team 05-27-2013 06:30 PM

TOTV is not the solution to the OP original question which has had much input at this point. Thread is being closed so we can advance.


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