Crime deterrent?

[swimdawg]

Up here in Swimdawg North, we have something called "Nextdoor" which is a website which notifies us of what's going on in our town and neighborhood. This morning, I received something from Nextdoor where the Sheriff gave updates of crimes in our town. I wonder if it could be utilized in TV? We, the people who have signed up for this free service, get updates from our sheriff on a regular basis thru Nextdoor.

Here are parts of the Nextdoor website that I thought may be of interest.
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What is Nextdoor?
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Please note: Nextdoor Forest Lake is a private website created by you and your neighbors, and supported by our company, Nextdoor, Inc. Nextdoor is the private social network for you, your neighbors and your community.
Thousands of neighborhoods are already using Nextdoor to build happier, safer places to call home.

People are using Nextdoor to:
•Quickly get the word out about a break-in
•Organize a Neighborhood Watch Group

Nextdoor’s mission is to use the power of technology to build stronger and safer neighborhoods.
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Just an idea. The more heads we can put together to continue to make our community safe and sound, the better! When there is an update, like there was this morning from our sheriff, I get notified via email.

[Bogie Shooter]

You should share your idea with the Sheriff's Department.

[swimdawg]

You should share your idea with the Sheriff's Department.

Great idea, Bogie. See what I mean about putting our heads together?

I did try calling the Sheriff this morning but they won't be in until Monday for NON-emergencies.

I will be in town next week and I will personally go there and show them the website on my iPad/iPhone. Can't hurt.......might help. :)

[angiefox10]

Great idea, Bogie. See what I mean about putting our heads together?

I did try calling the Sheriff this morning but they won't be in until Monday for NON-emergencies.

I will be in town next week and I will personally go there and show them the website on my iPad/iPhone. Can't hurt.......might help. :)

Hey... Count me in! I will go as back up! You know I always have your back!

[swimdawg]

Hey... Count me in! I will go as back up! You know I always have your back!

Thank you, Angie. I appreciate it.

I am looking at going to the sheriff's office on Monday morning,
January 13th around 9 AM. Anyone who would be willing to join us, please PM me.

Thanks again to OscarOlden et al for "waking us up".

[rubicon]

Swimdawg very good suggestion. Perhaps the simplest way is to have TOTV add a thread devoted entirely to this agenda rather than re-inventing the wheel. When you stop by the police department you may want to make this an alternate suggestion....of course after you e-mail TOTV to get their viewpoints, etc

[swimdawg]

Swimdawg very good suggestion. Perhaps the simplest way is to have TOTV add a thread devoted entirely to this agenda rather than re-inventing the wheel. When you stop by the police department you may want to make this an alternate suggestion....of course after you e-mail TOTV to get their viewpoints, etc

Rubicon, What a great suggestion!

And I will ask TOTV Admin what they think.

Thanks again.

Karen

[njbchbum]

Why do I think that such participation by the sheriff will be considered 'in poor taste' and counter-productive to the goals of the developer?

Would it satisfy the needs of totv readers/posters if the sheriff was to allow a specific person [or several people] from totv to go to the office and compile a "police blotter" which they could in turn post here on totv? of course, totv will need to cover all three counties in order to be complete in its reporting.

Or perhaps someone from totv would want to contact mehta minton and see if they can assist her staff in assembling a "police blotter" column for her publication?

It seems to me that there are other ways to accomplish gathering and publicizing news of attacks on our neighbors and/or their property than putting the onus on the police to report it to us. And maybe I am incorrect.

[angiefox10]

Swimdawg very good suggestion. Perhaps the simplest way is to have TOTV add a thread devoted entirely to this agenda rather than re-inventing the wheel. When you stop by the police department you may want to make this an alternate suggestion....of course after you e-mail TOTV to get their viewpoints, etc


I for one would love that idea, except many of us know there have been more break ins than have been reported even in the paper. In the past, no one has believed us... It wasn't until the paper finally posted the break ins, that people would believe what we were saying. So a thread without the the back up would do no good.

We also had something posted in our paper, up north, for every police call made in our city. We were always kept informed of everything that happened. This isn't the case here. We need something credible that everyone can subscribe to and people will believe.

Forewarned is forearmed.

[Ron1Z]

I work in a prison and have the opportunity to talk to inmates firsthand concerning burglary. Here's what I am told - Some people have alarms and video surveillance and they advertise with signs/stickers in their windows. This is not a deterrent, but more of a challenge for a burglar, as they now know what type of system they are dealing with. So it's best, if you are using ADT system, to advertise Brinks or some other company.

Most of them go for the smash and grab, smashing doors & windows to get in, hitting the bedrooms/dining room for small items - guns, jewelry, etc. These items are easily fenced. The days of them taking the big screen TV's and VCR's are gone. They also know they have 30-45 seconds before an alarm is activated. According to them, this is more than ample time to ransack a few rooms and get out well before Police are dispatched for the alarm. Most burglars know your daily routine and prefer to hit when no one is home.

[njbchbum]

Ron1Z -
Did those inmates ever share with you what sort of thing kept them from not attempting to enter a home?

[Ron1Z]

Yes they have. An occupied home (homeowner may have a loaded gun) and large dogs. These are young kids 18 to 25 usually with drug additions. I forgot to mention that they are also looking for prescription medication.

[billethkid]

and was there any discussion about why a burglar would choose to enter a house at a time when they KNOW the occupants are inside....asleep.

I can back into all the scenarios about why burglars enter homes when owners are not present.

A much bigger concern should be for the ones who blatantly enter an occupied home. There has to be more to a story when they choose to that. They certainly must have thought about being discovered.....and then what?

Maybe a large display in the entry area of an intruder castration collection?

[swimdawg]

[QUOTE=billethkid;805979]and was there any discussion about why a burglar would choose to enter a house at a time when they KNOW the occupants are inside....asleep.

I can back into all the scenarios about why burglars enter homes when owners are not present.

A much bigger concern should be for the ones who blatantly enter an occupied home. There has to be more to a story when they choose to that. They certainly must have thought about being discovered.....and then what?

Maybe a large display in the entry area of an intruder castration collection?


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You may be in the running for the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award!!!! :)

[Bogie Shooter]

The latest article on the villages news site says there were 8 break-ins, according to the Sumter County Sheriff. Why would they lie if there have been many more as indicated by another poster on TOTV?
The News site has been very good about reporting accurate information.

[angiefox10]

The latest article on the villages news site says there were 8 break-ins, according to the Sumter County Sheriff. Why would they lie if there have been many more as indicated by another poster on TOTV?
The News site has been very good about reporting accurate information.

I don't know why they would lie... Actually... omit. I wish I did. If you will recall, the original story didn't list all the break ins either. The second story listed more. Why didn't the first story list them? Even the second story didn't list all the break ins that we KNOW about in Sanibel.

But that being said... Your comment, and it's a valid one, is exactly the reason why a thread on TOTV wouldn't work. Why should you believe Me???

We need a police blotter. Something that lists EVERYTHING... Trust me... there is more.

[graciegirl]

Up here in Swimdawg North, we have something called "Nextdoor" which is a website which notifies us of what's going on in our town and neighborhood. This morning, I received something from Nextdoor where the Sheriff gave updates of crimes in our town. I wonder if it could be utilized in TV? We, the people who have signed up for this free service, get updates from our sheriff on a regular basis thru Nextdoor.

Here are parts of the Nextdoor website that I thought may be of interest.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What is Nextdoor?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please note: Nextdoor Forest Lake is a private website created by you and your neighbors, and supported by our company, Nextdoor, Inc. Nextdoor is the private social network for you, your neighbors and your community.
Thousands of neighborhoods are already using Nextdoor to build happier, safer places to call home.

People are using Nextdoor to:
•Quickly get the word out about a break-in
•Organize a Neighborhood Watch Group

Nextdoor’s mission is to use the power of technology to build stronger and safer neighborhoods.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Just an idea. The more heads we can put together to continue to make our community safe and sound, the better! When there is an update, like there was this morning from our sheriff, I get notified via email.


Is this it?
https://nextdoor.com/

[swimdawg]

Is this it?
https://nextdoor.com/

Yes, Gracie, that's it.

I receive regular updates from our sheriff in Niagara County. It's very informative.

[swimdawg]

I don't know why they would lie... Actually... omit. I wish I did. If you will recall, the original story didn't list all the break ins either. The second story listed more. Why didn't the first story list them? Even the second story didn't list all the break ins that we KNOW about in Sanibel.

But that being said... Your comment, and it's a valid one, is exactly the reason why a thread on TOTV wouldn't work. Why should you believe Me???

We need a police blotter. Something that lists EVERYTHING... Trust me... there is more.

Agree, Angie.

[rubicon]

I for one would love that idea, except many of us know there have been more break ins than have been reported even in the paper. In the past, no one has believed us... It wasn't until the paper finally posted the break ins, that people would believe what we were saying. So a thread without the the back up would do no good.

We also had something posted in our paper, up north, for every police call made in our city. We were always kept informed of everything that happened. This isn't the case here. We need something credible that everyone can subscribe to and people will believe.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Hi angiefox: Your observation is correct. However, I envision such discussion with the sheriff's department and TOTV to bridge/manage those concerns. we don't know what we don't know until we explore various channels. I for one would never begin a project with the thought that it couldn't get done...but again your concern is a good one and should be underscored when addressing the aforementioned officials.

As to the post concerning the how's and why's of burglars while it is helpful I long ago found it was more advantageous to start out with the thought that such people do bad things for a reason or no reason and that they have the ability to explore so many ways of doing things BECAUSE their mindset is different than ours.. that's why it is said that it takes a crook to catch a cook, or a liar or....... My other thought is that many are mainly driven by necessity and the risks of kicking down a door is over ridden by their will to meet their desires

Mike Tyson was quoted as saying he and his friends knew that the stores knew there were going to steal and the kick out of doing it was because they wanted to outsmart the stores who knew they were trying to outsmart them.

I would guess those reading this post would not likely risk going to jail but for that guy kicking down the door jail may be heaven for him or at least not hell

[angiefox10]

Hi angiefox: Your observation is correct. However, I envision such discussion with the sheriff's department and TOTV to bridge/manage those concerns. we don't know what we don't know until we explore various channels. I for one would never begin a project with the thought that it couldn't get done...but again your concern is a good one and should be underscored when addressing the aforementioned officials.

As to the post concerning the how's and why's of burglars while it is helpful I long ago found it was more advantageous to start out with the thought that such people do bad things for a reason or no reason and that they have the ability to explore so many ways of doing things BECAUSE their mindset is different than ours.. that's why it is said that it takes a crook to catch a cook, or a liar or....... My other thought is that many are mainly driven by necessity and the risks of kicking down a door is over ridden by their will to meet their desires

Mike Tyson was quoted as saying he and his friends knew that the stores knew there were going to steal and the kick out of doing it was because they wanted to outsmart the stores who knew they were trying to outsmart them.

I would guess those reading this post would not likely risk going to jail but for that guy kicking down the door jail may be heaven for him or at least not hell

You are absolutely correct! I should not have discounted it before trying to implement it first.

[rubicon]

You are absolutely correct! I should not have discounted it before trying to implement it first.

angiefox: posters all are in the formation phase of this discussion your comments while not only be correct invite further discovery and input and to my way of thinking that is what it is all about ...community

Stay warm.

[swimdawg]

You should share your idea with the Sheriff's Department.

I have been in contact with TOTV Admin and Sheriff's Department. I've been referred to Lieutenant Chris Hayworth who is in charge of Crime Investigation in Sumter County. I have spoken to him and will meet with him on Monday morn. Updates to follow........

[angiefox10]

My husband has contacted the Victim Witness Counselor for Lake Sumter Sheriff's office to see if she would be interested in coming into the meeting. She has been working with him on the incident. that happened at the Colony Plaza Gas Station. We are waiting for her reply. At this late date, it could depend on her schedule.

Thanks for setting this up Karen!

[rayschic]

Yes, Gracie, that's it.

I receive regular updates from our sheriff in Niagara County. It's very informative.

Looks like Nextdoor is already available for The Villages. Anyone can go in and set it up and e-mail everyone to join.Each person has to sign up their individual address. It seems like it would be a big project to set up with 100,000 Villagers but it seems like it would work great once you are signed up. Keep us updated on what the sheriff's dept tells you. Great idea !

[Bogie Shooter]

A similiar system is already in place in Sumter County "Code Red Alert"
https://cne.coderedweb.com/Default.aspx?groupid=3V2%2FWcb0xykV2pOiMpD%2F%2BA% 3D%3D


Code Red Weather Warning

Please take a moment to fill in the appropriate information on the electonic form provided on the Code Red Website Once enrolled, you will be notified by your local emergency response team in the event of emergency situations or critical community alerts. Examples include: evacuation notices, bio-terrorism alerts, boil water notices, and missing child reports. This information will remain the property of ECN and will not be disclosed unless compelled to do so by a court of sufficient jurisdiction.

[swimdawg]

I was so happy to read the "Simple safety steps" on the front page of TV Daily Sun this morning. I thought the safety tips were excellent. A synopsis:

Use a window clamp to secure windows
Install secondary locks on doors
Secure your sliding glass door
Set up outside lighting
Install additional light switches


It was also wonderful hear that the burglary suspect was arrested. Thank you Sumter County Sheriff Office detectives. Great work!