View Full Version : Bieber, so called celebrity
OldManTime
01-23-2014, 12:04 PM
I hope he stays in jail till he gets grey, that will keep all of us save
red tail
01-23-2014, 12:06 PM
I hope he stays in jail till he gets grey, that will keep all of us save
beaver?????
JB in TV
01-23-2014, 12:08 PM
Leave it to "Bieber" :coolsmiley:
karostay
01-23-2014, 12:21 PM
Leave it to "Bieber" :coolsmiley:
Hey Walley that you:a040:
KayakerNC
01-23-2014, 12:32 PM
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KayakerNC
01-23-2014, 12:32 PM
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OldManTime
01-23-2014, 01:14 PM
Does anyone here listen to the news, guess not. Justin Beaver arrested, Miami judge must have been star struck, $2500. bail.
Money means nothing to Beaver chunk change, he now can come into our neighborhoods speeding.
Barefoot
01-23-2014, 01:41 PM
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If you photoshopped that yourself Kayaker, good job! :coolsmiley:
bimmertl
01-23-2014, 02:17 PM
Does anyone here listen to the news, guess not. Justin Beaver arrested, Miami judge must have been star struck, $2500. bail.
Money means nothing to Beaver chunk change, he now can come into our neighborhoods speeding.
You can see his appearance before the judge on the CNN web site. The state attorney asked the judge for the standard bond for the charges against Bieber. The standard bond for the 3 charges is $2,500. So he got the same bond anybody else would have gotten under the circumstances.
Justin Bieber's bond set at $2,500 - CNN.com Video (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/01/23/justin-bieber-bond-hearing.wsvn.html)
gomoho
01-23-2014, 02:18 PM
We watched Brittney Spears, then Lyndsey Lohan, now the Bieber. Guess we will always have these idiot children trying to grow into their fame in front of our eye. It really is pathetic. As gross as Miley Cyrus is at least she hasn't gotten in trouble with the law YET!
Villages PL
01-23-2014, 02:40 PM
At some point in their career, a young super-star may feel the need to project the "bad-boy" image. This may be carefully crafted publicity to keep girls of a certain age tuned in. I could be wrong, but this is what I suspect.
billethkid
01-23-2014, 02:42 PM
and so who were this punk wanna be's role models?
Don't bother!
He is merely operating on the premise of getting folks to know his name
(unfortunately we already know) then try to correct the reputation.
A very good example of what society gets with one who uses drugs....and with the new growing legal status what is to stop them? Nothing.
It is too bad the media chooses to show this side of humanity instead of the more abundant choices of those doing what is right.
He certainly is not a celebrity.....just an out of control, wealthy punk (and I am working oh so hard to be polite!!!!!!!!)
TrudyM
01-23-2014, 02:50 PM
Wish we could send him back to Canada or make him persona non grata as some other countries have.
Barefoot
01-23-2014, 02:52 PM
As gross as Miley Cyrus is at least she hasn't gotten in trouble with the law YET!
I agree that Miley Cyrus is gross. She hasn't been arrested yet, but I think she is on a slippery slope. A lot of her songs are glamorizing drugs, she is very fond of "molly" which is ecstasy. I hate to think that young girls admire her and want to be like her.
Buffalo Jim
01-23-2014, 03:08 PM
The sad thing is that there is a large population of Teenage girls who grew up as childhood fans of Bieber and Miley Cyrus [ then Hannah Montana ] .
Both have evolved to become very sad examples of how to comport themselves as young " adults " . The late Amy Winehouse was another who appealed to young girls / teens . Then there is also " Lady GaGa " for them to look up to . Great examples each .
jblum315
01-23-2014, 03:31 PM
I like Lady GaGa. I think she's a hoot.
KayakerNC
01-23-2014, 03:32 PM
You can see his appearance before the judge on the CNN web site. The state attorney asked the judge for the standard bond for the charges against Bieber. The standard bond for the 3 charges is $2,500. So he got the same bond anybody else would have gotten under the circumstances.
Justin Bieber's bond set at $2,500 - CNN.com Video (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/01/23/justin-bieber-bond-hearing.wsvn.html)
The 3 charges are Misdemeanors in Florida. :ohdear:
TexaninVA
01-23-2014, 03:47 PM
I hope he stays in jail till he gets grey, that will keep all of us save
Justin Bieber is a pathetic excuse for a human being. My suggestion ... he should enlist in the USMC for a few years and do his best to become a real person.
duffysmom
01-23-2014, 03:52 PM
The unfortunate thing is that he is a child who has been explointed at a very young age by his mother, promoters and agents. If you want to condemn somone condemn them. The same goes for Lindsey Lohan who has worked in the industry since she was a very young child and used by her drug addicted parents as a moneymaker. It's no wonder these kids go off the rails. God help them.
billethkid
01-23-2014, 03:55 PM
maybe it will take a today type or a permissive or liberal or a loosey goosey conservative to explain to me why one like this person with all the fame and fortune devolve to the lower side, scummy life style?
Maybe that is what happens when one goes from diapers to fame and fortune. I wonder how the likes of Shirley Temple (for lack of a better example) made it without living in the gutter??
Paper1
01-23-2014, 04:15 PM
It is a sad reflection on America when we are passing trillions of dollars of dept to our children and grand-children yet collectively as a society we are making multi millionaires out of snotting nose kids like this one or stars like A-Rod.
CFrance
01-23-2014, 04:20 PM
maybe it will take a today type or a permissive or liberal or a loosey goosey conservative to explain to me why one like this person with all the fame and fortune devolve to the lower side, scummy life style?
Maybe that is what happens when one goes from diapers to fame and fortune. I wonder how the likes of Shirley Temple (for lack of a better example) made it without living in the gutter??
Too much money, too soon in life, coupled with poor or AWOL parenting.
SoccerCoach
01-23-2014, 05:35 PM
Justin Bieber and some of the so called celebrities today are only FAWNED over by the same types that they are. You could put Justin's talent in a thimble and still have room for your thumb. All he can do is look over the top of his sunglasses. He wouldn't last 3 days in any branch of the military, and those of us who WERE IN know to what I refer.
So my rant is over, Justin will do as Justin does, we just have to choose to be taken by it or not. Hoorah!
eweissenbach
01-23-2014, 05:51 PM
When we were growing up scandals ruined careers (Lana Turner, Lenny Bruce, Errol Flynn, Tony Curtis) now it seems to be a path to fame and just another publicity opportunity.
Jim007
01-23-2014, 06:02 PM
It is a sad reflection on America when we are passing trillions of dollars of dept to our children and grand-children yet collectively as a society we are making multi millionaires out of snotting nose kids like this one or stars like A-Rod.
As a society we spend far too much money on Entertainment. Stop supporting movie actors and professional athletes. And yes, that means stop watching the movies and series on TV, and stop watching sports, professional and collegiate.
That means, Baseball, Football, Basketball, Hockey, Soccer, Golf, and yes even NASCAR.
Instead of buying season tickets or even one ticket to a game. Donate the money to your local school.
bdabob
01-23-2014, 06:17 PM
I have something in common with JB; I'm also a foreigner and a guest in your country (and The Villages).
I, on the other hand, have a deep respect for the laws of the land and hope to remain a welcome guest by abiding well within the legislated parameters.
This piece of crap has made millions as a guest in your country but openly flouts your drug laws and your alcohol consumption/possession laws. It's time to take out the trash and deport his sorry "arse" back North!
GPGuar
01-23-2014, 06:19 PM
:agree:It is a sad reflection on America when we are passing trillions of dollars of dept to our children and grand-children yet collectively as a society we are making multi millionaires out of snotting nose kids like this one or stars like A-Rod.
:agree:.... YOU ARE SO SO RIGHT!!!
buggyone
01-23-2014, 06:25 PM
maybe it will take a today type or a permissive or liberal or a loosey goosey conservative to explain to me why one like this person with all the fame and fortune devolve to the lower side, scummy life style?
Maybe that is what happens when one goes from diapers to fame and fortune. I wonder how the likes of Shirley Temple (for lack of a better example) made it without living in the gutter??
I have no idea about Shirley Temple since she was WAY before my time.
However, I do not blame the artist for becoming richer than you or I could ever hope to become. If they did not have the fans, they would not be celebrity artists. If the fans (little girls and boys - pre-teen and young teens) did not buy the CDs and music, there would not be money for the artists. If the parents did not give money to the kids, well, that is the situation...
CFrance
01-23-2014, 07:13 PM
Bare, I am afraid you are just going to have to take JB back home with you this summer.:ohdear:
DougB
01-23-2014, 07:37 PM
Much ado about nothing.
Barefoot
01-23-2014, 08:16 PM
Bare, I am afraid you are just going to have to take JB back home with you this summer.:ohdear:
I'd be surprised if Canada wants him back. He is like Rob Ford, the mayor of Toronto ... a total embarrassment to Canada! :22yikes:
I say keep Bieber in the USA and put him in the military!
twinklesweep
01-23-2014, 08:18 PM
.... It is too bad the media chooses to show this side of humanity instead of the more abundant choices of those doing what is right....
To me it's a no-brainer why this is so: This is what Americans are interested in and what they buy into! I'm not saying this is true for every single American, but the media are in business to make money, and they know what sells. In reality, the public chooses and the media accommodate! And this is the level we have sunk to....
geri317
01-23-2014, 08:18 PM
Spoiled brat needs to grow up but I'm afraid that's way in the future.
DougB
01-23-2014, 08:26 PM
Spoiled brat needs to grow up but I'm afraid that's way in the future.
Way of the future? Do you really think this type of behavior by celebrities is something new?
Matzy
01-23-2014, 08:26 PM
Hmm…. Justin Bieber is 19 years old. What did we do when we were in this age? Excuses not necessary, but it isn't the speeding what JB brought into our mind, it is what we call NEWS. Is it necessary to bring up such kind of news into the forefront and judging about what we know about we heard?
Sorry, I do not feel already so old that I can go with that and have to watch what is going on with him. It is a case for the police in Miami Dade.
Serenoa
01-23-2014, 08:33 PM
The sad thing is that there is a large population of Teenage girls who grew up as childhood fans of Bieber and Miley Cyrus [ then Hannah Montana ] .
Both have evolved to become very sad examples of how to comport themselves as young " adults " . The late Amy Winehouse was another who appealed to young girls / teens . Then there is also " Lady GaGa " for them to look up to . Great examples each .
Please, Amy Winehouse was no teeny-bopper pop star. My guess is that you've never heard much, if any of her music or else you would know that. As a jazz/soul singer-songwriter she had a true, unique talent......something that Bieber and Cyrus seriously lack. It's just really sad that she couldn't overcome her demons & died so young.
DougB
01-23-2014, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE The late Amy Winehouse was another who appealed to young girls / teens . Then there is also " Lady GaGa " for them to look up to . Great examples each .[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree. Kids today should have great role models like we had. You know, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Keith Moon, Jimi Hendrix. Wait, what am I saying they friggin' killed themselves also.
KayakerNC
01-24-2014, 09:14 AM
THIS could explain everything.
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duffysmom
01-24-2014, 09:59 AM
:1rotfl:
redwitch
01-24-2014, 10:03 AM
I don't get it. Babe Ruth was an alcoholic who was known to play ball drunk. Erroll Flynn was a womanizer and heavy drinker. James Dean was killed speeding. Thomas Jefferson had a slave mistress. Elvis was a pill popping junkie. We idolize these men.
Justin Bieber is a 19 YO kid with a lot of money. Yes, he's going to make mistakes and do really, really stupid things. Show me a 19 YO who doesn't and I'll show you a 19 YO who's afraid of life. Let the kid grow up before you condemn him.
duffysmom
01-24-2014, 10:05 AM
The common denominator in the lives of these tragic children is alcohol and drugs.
billethkid
01-24-2014, 10:06 AM
To me it's a no-brainer why this is so: This is what Americans are interested in and what they buy into! I'm not saying this is true for every single American, but the media are in business to make money, and they know what sells. In reality, the public chooses and the media accommodate! And this is the level we have sunk to....
I completely disagree with the highlighted statement above. It would be accurate to state this is what the media is interested in and what they buy into.
The rest of America is quite normal in what it wants and it is most certainly NOT what is depicted by the very few radical celebrities and politicians that are glorified by the media.
My biggest issue, pet peeve, annoyance in life is the amount of generalizing done with isolated incidents.
The America I know and love, the 90+++%, and the Americans I know and love are not into the gutter lifestyles, the 2-5%, put disgracefully on display.
bimmertl
01-24-2014, 11:29 AM
I don't get it. Babe Ruth was an alcoholic who was known to play ball drunk. Erroll Flynn was a womanizer and heavy drinker. James Dean was killed speeding. Thomas Jefferson had a slave mistress. Elvis was a pill popping junkie. We idolize these men.
Justin Bieber is a 19 YO kid with a lot of money. Yes, he's going to make mistakes and do really, really stupid things. Show me a 19 YO who doesn't and I'll show you a 19 YO who's afraid of life. Let the kid grow up before you condemn him.
Who the heck are the people who "idolize" Erroll Flynn and James Dean or even Babe Ruth?
Bieber isn't a "kid". He's over 18 so he's and adult and judging by his antics in the last couple of years, he's a loser. So he gets judged by his actions and appropriately condemned for them.
CFrance
01-24-2014, 11:39 AM
Redwitch... I agree with you on one level, but at the time those people were doing such things, it wasn't widely publicized. I still think there's a lack of parenting involved when it comes to Hollywood kids and their sudden wealth.
BTK... I agree with you too on one level, but there are an awful lot of people in the grocery store checkout lane snapping up those ridiculous gossip rags. And how do you explain the instant and ongoing success of People Magazine? I think there's a section of the population we're not necessarily aware of, and they thrive on this stupid stuff.
redwitch
01-24-2014, 12:50 PM
CF, won't even argue the lack of parenting but I can remember talking to OJ Simpson's mother once. She would try to ground him for some action he took and not only would the coach come and say how he needed he was (in junior high, no less) but members of the PTA would call her and so on and so forth. Hard to parent when the whole world refuses to hold your child responsible.
I'd say the bigger lack of parenting goes on by parents who let their kids worship these people rather than the Mandelas, the Mother Theresas, the scientists, teachers and neighborhood cop. I know my parents went out of their way to let me know that admiring the talent of an athlete or performer was the right thing to do but we didn't have to admire the behavior and we most certainly should not emulate these people.
I'm not condoning Bieber's behavior. It is childish, ill-advised and downright stupid but it is also understandable. The big difference between him and most of our kids at that age is that he has more money and everything he does is news, especially if he does something bad. Of course, we rarely hear of him visiting kids in the hospital just cause he happened to drive by one (and he has done this -- he gave my friend's granddaughter the shirt he was wearing).
And, yes, technically 19 is an adult. However, the brain doesn't stop growing until age 25 for most of us. So, maturity is still a few years off for him.
buggyone
01-24-2014, 01:14 PM
We idolize Babe Ruth, Errol Flynn, and James Dean? Maybe 50 years ago some people idolized James Dean and 65 years ago for Errol Flynn and Babe Ruth.
These young celebs are followed by photographers 24/7 and the magazines like People and tabloids like National Enquirer are anxious to buy pics. It sells big time.
As far as the young celebs behaving badly, they are young; have lots of money; and no personal responsibility. They are living life for the moment.
How about the pro basketball players, baseball, and football players that earn multi-millions? Most are responsible but a few are not - carry guns in clubs, etc.
If the ordinary citizen did not pay money to hear and see all about the young celebs, this would not happen. Do not blame the celeb. Do not blame the media. Blame each other for buying the magazines, CDs, movies, and music of these people.
CFrance
01-24-2014, 01:25 PM
We idolize Babe Ruth, Errol Flynn, and James Dean? Maybe 50 years ago some people idolized James Dean and 65 years ago for Errol Flynn and Babe Ruth.
These young celebs are followed by photographers 24/7 and the magazines like People and tabloids like National Enquirer are anxious to buy pics. It sells big time.
As far as the young celebs behaving badly, they are young; have lots of money; and no personal responsibility. They are living life for the moment.
How about the pro basketball players, baseball, and football players that earn multi-millions? Most are responsible but a few are not - carry guns in clubs, etc.
If the ordinary citizen did not pay money to hear and see all about the young celebs, this would not happen. Do not blame the celeb. Do not blame the media. Blame each other for buying the magazines, CDs, movies, and music of these people.
But I don't think I should stop buying NFL Ticket or going to baseball games, two sports I absolutely love, because a few players are irresponsible, law-breaking jerks.
It's not the celebs I'm paying $ to hear or see. It's the sport.
buggyone
01-24-2014, 03:16 PM
But I don't think I should stop buying NFL Ticket or going to baseball games, two sports I absolutely love, because a few players are irresponsible, law-breaking jerks.
It's not the celebs I'm paying $ to hear or see. It's the sport.
Tough situation, is it not? The team owners could ban these irresponsible law breakers but what would that gain?
CFrance
01-24-2014, 03:29 PM
Tough situation, is it not? The team owners could ban these irresponsible law breakers but what would that gain?
I thought the Steelers were doing that with the lawbreakers. They even got rid of Santonio Holmes after a terrific catch to win the Super Bowl... and then along came Roethlisberger. I was very disappointed they didn't let him go.
I guess even the Rooneys have a bottom line.
2BNTV
01-24-2014, 03:52 PM
Another case of a young person, who was barely held in control by his parents, and the madness of becoming, obscenely wealthy.
They can't wait until there are legal, so they live their life on their own terms. Unfortunaly, they are too immature, to live a responsible lifestyle.
They become the breadwinners in their family, and probably tell their parents, to pi## off.
I hope this young man wakes up and smells the coffee, before it's too late.
I always find it sad that so many actors, actresses don't save their money.
They live in homes much too big for themselves, to impress future employers, give lavished parties and when the work stops comming, they wind up broke.
eweissenbach
01-24-2014, 03:55 PM
But I don't think I should stop buying NFL Ticket or going to baseball games, two sports I absolutely love, because a few players are irresponsible, law-breaking jerks.
It's not the celebs I'm paying $ to hear or see. It's the sport.
Excellent distinction Cyndy. Sports fans may have their favorite players, and yes there are a few who idolize a particular player, but most sports fans are really fans of their favorite team and not so much the individual players. I grew up as a Kansas City As fan (may explain my warped personality) but every time I developed a special interest in a player - BOOM; he was traded to the Yankees (Clete Boyer, Roger Maris, Bud Daley and on and on) for some has been. I continued to root for the As, however, as that was MY team, until they moved to Oakland, in which case I hated them and loved the Royals. Indianapolis fans loved Peyton Manning, but now they love Andrew Luck, Patriot fans loved Aaron Hernandez, but not so much now. Justin Bieber, Elvis, Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Adele, Taylor Swift, etc. are or were idolized for their perceived artistry, as individuals. They are the franchise, and like allegiance for sports teams, many are willing to overlook their shortcomings.
rubicon
01-24-2014, 04:04 PM
Well to illustrate how upside down this country has become recall that once moral clauses were inserted in contracts to prevent celebrities from display such behavior in public. However, today's contract insert moral clauses stating celebrities better display bad behavior because it sells big time.
and the public is watching just look at the popularity of reality shows. and to add insult to injury reality TV moved into sitcom Talk shows, etc
Celebrities have made a pact with the devil and most would do anything to stay king of the hill r just to stay on the hill. some people will do anything for money
The unfortunate thing is that young kids are watching and emulating this behavior because that is all they know. and the kicker is some parents foster such behavior because they believe it makes their kids cool. Why because they did some of the same things and well you don't know wha you don't know. Well kids will be kids.
At 19 I was married earning pay to live on and continue my education to make a better life for my wife and the kids that would eventually appear
dewilson58
01-30-2014, 04:20 PM
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