Trash Thief!!

[getdul981]

My wife and I returned home late this evening, just before dark. Since it is trash pick-up night, I took most of our trash out to the curb. Later, I had some more to take out. That's when I noticed that one of the bags had been taken. Only one and I have no idea who took it or where it went. As far as I know, there is nothing in there that has any account numbers or any persional information. I always try to shred anything that would be of any use to anyone and there was no shredding in the trash tonight.

[Phanatic Luvr]

We saw it as well in St. James. Didn't seem like the person was trying to hide from doing it as it was relatively early. I shred everything as well but I'm sure there are those who don't. Red flag!!!!!!!

[Villageswimmer]

We saw it as well in St. James. Didn't seem like the person was trying to hide from doing it as it was relatively early. I shred everything as well but I'm sure there are those who don't. Red flag!!!!!!!


Unbelievable! Did you get a description of the vehicle and report it to the Sheriff's office?

[Parker]

Well that's just weird, and creepy.

[tucson]

I only put mine out in the morning right before the truck comes....

[getdul981]

I usually put ours out reeeaaaallllll late, like around midnight or even early morning, just before the trucks come around. I just thought I would do it early for a change. I guess I'll have to go back to my old practices.

[graciegirl]

I usually put ours out reeeaaaallllll late, like around midnight or even early morning, just before the trucks come around. I just thought I would do it early for a change. I guess I'll have to go back to my old practices.

I think that both of you should call the sheriff's non emergency number and tell them and tell Community Watch too. Both live in the same area. But we all should take note. I thank you very much. We will remember to shred.

[Bailey1]

We tell our neighbors to take one of ours trash bag and put in there drive way if they are leaving town so it looks like they are home maybe that happen or there neighbor didn't have but one bag to put out in there driveway so they took one of yours to put in there neighbors so it would like they are home. We try to look out for rack other since we don't feel safe these days

[ladylake1]

TV is rampant with "pickers." They go around on garbage nights to see what us "rich" folks call trash. I have seen them anytime after 9 pm cruising our street and shopping our trash. The other night they shopped my neighbors garbage, took what they liked, and then left other less desirable items they had gotten elsewhere on the driveway. Tore open bags and just left them as well. Usually the pickers are in rusted pick ups but these folks were in a new Buick. They saw me watching them but just didn't give a hoot and continued doing their thing. Don't know if it is against the law to go though other's trash once it is outside. Have to watch more CSI to be in the know!!!

[graciegirl]

TV is rampant with "pickers." They go around on garbage nights to see what us "rich" folks call trash. I have seen them anytime after 9 pm cruising our street and shopping our trash. The other night they shopped my neighbors garbage, took what they liked, and then left other less desirable items they had gotten elsewhere on the driveway. Tore open bags and just left them as well. Usually the pickers are in rusted pick ups but these folks were in a new Buick. They saw me watching them but just didn't give a hoot and continued doing their thing. Don't know if it is against the law to go though other's trash once it is outside. Have to watch more CSI to be in the know!!!


On this I would take their license number and call the sheriff's non emergency number. I can understand taking usable discards on the driveway, but to open trash is another. Everyone shred your pertinent information. We are helping each other on this thread.

[Bogie Shooter]

Unbelievable! Did you get a description of the vehicle and report it to the Sheriff's office?

Once you put anything on the curb it is fair game for anyone who wants to take it away.
What would the Sheriff do?

[Cobh521]

Thanks for the heads up about the trash pickers. I will be sure to monitor this at our house. Just to add a spin, my husband was a law enforcement official and when they were performing investigations they would take people's trash. They were dressed in plain clothes and used unmarked cars.

[asianthree]

I know longer shred. .use it to start my grill

[manaboutown]

Law enforcement, various types of private and corporate investigators, employers, ID thieves, just curious folks and others will pick through trash for different reasons. It has happened to me. Before shredders were invented I used to burn all my paper documents in my fireplace. Now I use a heavy duty shredder which cross cuts the paper.

Celebrities, politicians and wealthy folks have their trash picked. Some want to know what they eat, read. They even want their thrown away clothing and other personal junk.

[CFrance]

Thanks for the heads up about the trash pickers. I will be sure to monitor this at our house. Just to add a spin, my husband was a law enforcement official and when they were performing investigations they would take people's trash. They were dressed in plain clothes and used unmarked cars.

I may have watched too much Dragnet, but I believe the courts have said trash put at the end of your driveway is considered to be discarded and is therefore fair game.

[KARENNN]

The only thieves I have caught in the act are the wild cats and coyotes. :popcorn:

[CFrance]

The only thieves I have caught in the act are the wild cats and coyotes. :popcorn:
If I catch one of them in the act, they can have the trash!

[JourneyOfLife]

Some cities and towns, where it has become a big problems, are passing ordinances that require trash pickers to buy a yearly permit. The police enforce it.

[gomoho]

I use my dog's bagged poop as a deterrent. Always dump the poop can contents on top of my house hold garbage before I tie up the bag. Trust me if someone opened it they would be bowled over by the scent!

[dillywho]

I use my dog's bagged poop as a deterrent. Always dump the poop can contents on top of my house hold garbage before I tie up the bag. Trust me if someone opened it they would be bowled over by the scent!

Hope they like kitty poo, too!:icon_wink:

Are they going through the "trash" trash or the recycle stuff, which usually has lots of paper stuff? I tear our names off of envelopes and shred that part, too. Don't forget about medical stuff...especially the information about the prescription drugs you might be taking.

I also shred listings of club members, church members, team members, etc. Sometimes, there's lots of information there including your Villages ID number.

[dillywho]

Once you put anything on the curb it is fair game for anyone who wants to take it away.
What would the Sheriff do?

Question: If the trash is on the edge of your yard, is it still considered fair game? That's where I put mine much of the time after forgetting it was there and backing over it....MAJOR mess.:yuck:

[Villageswimmer]

Once you put anything on the curb it is fair game for anyone who wants to take it away.
What would the Sheriff do?


Ok, maybe it's not a crime. However, I think I'd still consider it "suspicious." I believe law enforcement asks citizens to report anything suspicious. Maybe I'm wrong?

[JB in TV]

Maybe a moot point, but isn't it trespassing to come on to one's property uninvited??

[ladylake1]

The one's I have seen stand in the street and just reach in. Don't know if they know about trespassing or just too lazy to go any further.

[CFrance]

Or it could be you're not trespassing if you're in the easement? I don't know... ask the people who let their dogs... NO WAIT. Don't do that.

[BettyCrocked]

It isn't trespassing. Do you have a fence with a locked gate? Do you have "No Trespassing" signage? Have you specifically told the person(s) not to come on your property?

Who is a licensee?
Licensees are individuals who enter upon the property of another for their own convenience, pleasure, or benefit (Stewart v. Texas Co., 67 So.2d 653 [Fla. 1953]; 41 Florida Jurisprudence 2d Premises Liability section 53). This includes uninvited licensees whose presence is tolerated or permitted by the owner of the property (Boca Raton v. Mattee, 91 So.2d 644 [Fla. 1956]). This category also includes discovered trespassers and trespassers who have done so for a substantial period of time with the owner's knowledge (41 Florida Jurisprudence 2d Premises Liability section 53).

To what extent am I, the property owner, responsible for licensees?
For visitors classified as licensees, the property owner is responsible in cases where the owner willfully injures that person or that person is injured due to the owner's wanton negligence. Additionally, the property owner has a responsibility to warn the licensee of any known dangers thata someone would not readily notice (Emerine v. Scaglione, 751 So.2d 73 [Fla. 2d DCA 1999]; 41 Florida Jurisprudence 2d Premises Liability section 55). An example of a licensee is the case where P entered a store to get change and was injured after slipping on a greasy floor. P sued the owners, claiming they failed to warn him of the greasy floor. Because P only entered the store to get change and not to shop, the court found P to be a licensee rather than an invitee. The court said that licensees, upon entering property, assume whatever risk of injury that might exist due to conditions of the property unless those conditions are hidden (Stewart v. Texas Co., 67 So.2d 653 [Fla. 1953]). It is important to remember, however, that where conditions show a willful or gross disregard for safety, the property owner will be held responsible to injuries caused to licensees from such conditions.

[JB in TV]

It isn't trespassing. Do you have a fence with a locked gate? Do you have "No Trespassing" signage? Have you specifically told the person(s) not to come on your property?...
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Ok, guess it is not trespassing. Thanks for the info

[kittygilchrist]

It is trespassing. The property around your home is "unenclosed curtilage"...

810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.—

(1)(a) A person who, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters upon or remains in any property other than a structure or conveyance:
1. As to which notice against entering or remaining is given, either by actual communication to the offender or by posting, fencing, or cultivation as described in s. 810.011; or

2. If the property is the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling and the offender enters or remains with the intent to commit an offense thereon, other than the offense of trespass,commits the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance.

Also...did you know that if your dog bites someone you are liable UNLESS you have a sign saying "BAD DOG"...so with all the construction and strangers milling around my street, I do have a sign in the window saying private property no trespassing BAD DOG.
I'm sure there are rules against posting signs, however, this one is required by law for the protection of the public and the homeowner.

[graciegirl]

Maybe a moot point, but isn't it trespassing to come on to one's property uninvited??



No matter what you call it, how you slice it, dice it dissect it, present it, or identify it,what the bottom line is that people can steal information that could lead to identity theft or other privacy invasion. Trespassing or not. What it is deemed legally is NOT pertinent in this discussion.


Burn or shred your valuable information and don't put it in a trash bag that some danged lazy ass person who does not want to work can take and steal your hard earned money.


Or burglarize or rob it. Semantics Shlamantics.

[CFrance]

It is trespassing. The property around your home is "unenclosed curtilage"...

810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.—

(1)(a) A person who, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters upon or remains in any property other than a structure or conveyance:
1. As to which notice against entering or remaining is given, either by actual communication to the offender or by posting, fencing, or cultivation as described in s. 810.011; or

2. If the property is the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling and the offender enters or remains with the intent to commit an offense thereon, other than the offense of trespass,commits the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance.

Also...did you know that if your dog bites someone you are liable UNLESS you have a sign saying "BAD DOG"...so with all the construction and strangers milling around my street, I do have a sign in the window saying private property no trespassing BAD DOG.
I'm sure there are rules against posting signs, however, this one is required by law for the protection of the public and the homeowner.

Kitty, I hope that NON bad Dog Emma can't read!

[kittygilchrist]

Kitty, I hope that NON bad Dog Emma can't read!

I apologized to her profusely for the sign, but she smiled at me with pride in her eye. I think even good dogs can go bad when someone violates their owner. Probably not so the trash pickers, but she'd give them a scare.

[JB in TV]

No matter what you call it, how you slice it, dice it dissect it, present it, or identify it,what the bottom line is that people can steal information that could lead to identity theft or other privacy invasion. Trespassing or not. What it is deemed legally is NOT pertinent in this discussion.


Burn or shred your valuable information and don't put it in a trash bag that some danged lazy ass person who does not want to work can take and steal your hard earned money.


Or burglarize or rob it. Semantics Shlamantics.

:agree: 110% I got caught up in the discussion about what's legal...:ohdear: It's never legal to steal something of another, be it material goods, an identity, or their pride.

Bottom line... it happens all the time, and every one needs to take steps to prevent that from happening to themselves. Shredding is a good start.

[BettyCrocked]

Read your quote:

If the property is the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling and the offender enters or remains with the intent to commit an offense thereon, other than the offense of trespass,commits the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance.

It is only trespass if they enter the unenclosed curtilage with INTENT TO COMMIT AN OFFENSE.
Good luck proving intent. Taking someone's refuse is not an offense, as has been established in this thread as well as many others.

[graciegirl]

:agree: 110% I got caught up in the discussion about what's legal...:ohdear: It's never legal to steal something of another, be it material goods, an identity, or their pride.

Bottom line... it happens all the time, and every one needs to take steps to prevent that from happening to themselves. Shredding is a good start.



JB in TV,


Although I replied to your post, my intent was not to correct you. Your posts are always reasonable, considered and fair.


Your friend and fan,


Gracie.

[JB in TV]

JB in TV,


Although I replied to your post, my intent was not to correct you....

Understood, no worries, didn't take it that way. :coolsmiley:

[CassieInVa]

Well, even I once grabbed a great old wooden chair that someone on my street had put out with other trash, etc. (It just had some paint splatters that I removed) But I cannot imagine it is okay to open garbage, take what you want and leave the rest all over the ground. That is littering and a nuisance.

[mrbgull]

good idea

[The Buckeyes]

I only put mine out in the morning right before the truck comes....

Tried that once at 6:30 and the trash had already been picked up on the street, when I called they said it was fair game anytime after 6.

[CFrance]

Tried that once at 6:30 and the trash had already been picked up on the street, when I called they said it was fair game anytime after 6.
And we've noticed that after the snowbird season, the trash and recycle pickups become earlier and earlier in the morning, because they don't have as many houses to stop at. So in those months we put it out the night before.

[Tweety Bird]

Once you put anything on the curb it is fair game for anyone who wants to take it away.
What would the Sheriff do?

I would think that's true! It's garbage.

[festusrules]

They stole my trash a few weeks ago, but I did not mind. They paid my bills and prepaid a subscription to Golf Magazine.

[getdul981]

I didn't mention it before, but I do believe that particular bag had a big old bag of doggie poop in it. Surprise!!! I hope they enjoyed it.

This was not the recycle day either. It was the regular trash pick up day.

[bestmickey]

Admittedly, not likely ...

In my community the City does trash pickup. There is random checking of trash. A City employee will pick a bag or two from the pile. (Approx. 10 condos place their trash in each pile in our area.) The employee will take the bag(s) back to the public service department. The City will go through bags and IF they find recyclable materials (cans, bottles, plastic, newspapers) in the trash bag, they MAY give the homeowner a fine. Of course, that can only happen if the owner left something identifiable as to their home's specific address, since there are the piles from multiple dwellings. Perhaps this random checking is happening in TV? You could be blamed (fined?) if there were recyclables in a bag that was picked up from your driveway?

Another remote possibility is an artist taking trash, for an art project? (I've seen articles written of artists who do this kind of work.)

[Futurevillager2013]

It happened to us and I called community watch services and was told that once you put something on the curb it is public property and they can't do anything about it.
I know longer put my garbage out at night we put it out during the day of the trash pick up. It's really pathetic that this is happening in The Villages and community watch things it's all OK.

[graciegirl]

Getdul has told us what happened and another person said the same thing happened to them,so now we know NOT to let anything go into the trash unshredded. Shredders are very cheap. Many thanks again Greg for this very useful information.

[CFrance]

It happened to us and I called community watch services and was told that once you put something on the curb it is public property and they can't do anything about it.
I know longer put my garbage out at night we put it out during the day of the trash pick up. It's really pathetic that this is happening in The Villages and community watch things it's all OK.

FV, I would suggest you might call your local police and ask what they think about this practice in your community. You might find that they can't do anything about it either.

I don't think it's so much that the community watch thinks it's okay; I think there's nothing that they can do because of the law.

[Karron]

31606
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Blue"]I saw a sweet little wicker tea set made for a child one night.... rather that just "take it", I went to the front door and asked if I could have it to repaint and use....
The gentleman was gracious and said, "well of course"! (I wasn't cruising, just driving home with my little girl Maltese, Molly, and happened to see it in the driveway!
Karron & Molly

[mrf6969]

Tell that thief to come over to Tall Trees this Fri early morning as I have a grill I am putting out!!

[TraceyMooreRN]

It happened to us and I called community watch services and was told that once you put something on the curb it is public property and they can't do anything about it.
I know longer put my garbage out at night we put it out during the day of the trash pick up. It's really pathetic that this is happening in The Villages and community watch things it's all OK.

I am sorry that you think it is pathetic that the community watch thinks it is okay for someone to pick up another's person trash that is being disposed already. I am not sure what you want the community watch to do? They already patrol every street in the villages, check pools, assist residents, check rec centers to make sure everything is okay, attempt to locate all the reckless drivers who damage their gates EVERYDAY. This list is only a few things they do. If you didn't have a community watch who would you call? It is not a crime to remove debris/trash from the street once it is on the curb. If you concerned for identity thief-then shred all your documents as several people have posted. If you see someone suspicious in the neighborhood-attempt to safely obtain description and call the police.

[Bogie Shooter]

It happened to us and I called community watch services and was told that once you put something on the curb it is public property and they can't do anything about it.
I know longer put my garbage out at night we put it out during the day of the trash pick up. It's really pathetic that this is happening in The Villages and community watch things it's all OK.

Pathetic? This is the way it is in communities all over the country.

[KeepingItReal]

Pathetic? This is the way it is in communities all over the country.

The key word is curb and not end of your driveway. Trash sitting on the end of your driveway is not fair game to be taken. As the Villages really does not have a curb if the trash is still on the end of your driveway it is still on your property and it is no more legal to take it than anything else in your driveway. A curb would be an area where multiple trash containers are placed for pickup. Once again Community Watch is dodging responsibility for anything, what is it they really do for the residents except give us reasons why they cannot do anything? Checking pools, rec centers, gates, etc. is done for the developer at our expense since we don't own these properties but we do pay them for checking them.

[Regor]

I'm not going to read through this whole thread but I don't see a problem. You set trash/junk/garbage to the curb and someone takes it! Super! Don't put junk in your junk that you don't want someone to see/have. Maybe there was a some aluminum cans in the bag. Recycle them dudes for 3.5 cents each.

[Villageshooter]

Once you put anything on the curb it is fair game for anyone who wants to take it away.
What would the Sheriff do?

my wife has made me set out at the cub many times,,,, wanting someone to take me ,,,, she has told me : next time i have to get in a huge white bag!

[Pa & Giggi]

My husband was out walking the dog last night around 6:30 or so, and he saw this guy picking up recycle bags from our neighbors driveways and put them into his golf cart. We live on Ashville Ave and my husband recognized him from the villas in the back. His golf cart was nearly full of recycle bags. What concerned me was if someone had not shredded any important documents, they could be in serious trouble. Why would someone collect recycle bags? My husband thinks this guy is in his 40's so maybe this is his source of income.
We try to put out our bags as late as we can as to avoid this sort of problem and I shred everything. I would hate to see the front of his house on trash day. I guess that is how we could find his exact house.

[57ChevyFI]

The key word is curb and not end of your driveway. Trash sitting on the end of your driveway is not fair game to be taken. As the Villages really does not have a curb if the trash is still on the end of your driveway it is still on your property and it is no more legal to take it than anything else in your driveway. A curb would be an area where multiple trash containers are placed for pickup. Once again Community Watch is dodging responsibility for anything, what is it they really do for the residents except give us reasons why they cannot do anything? Checking pools, rec centers, gates, etc. is done for the developer at our expense since we don't own these properties but we do pay them for checking them.

The Supreme Court seems to disagree with your interpretation of the law'

The Supreme Court has defined curtilage, or lands immediately surrounding a home, according to distance, what a fence encloses, the nature of the land’s use and if the space can be easily observed. State constitutions may define the term a little differently, but, typically, trash left by the curb or at the end of a driveway is considered outside curtilage.

[KeepingItReal]

If my trash is on my property it is of no concern to the Supreme Court. If I sit it out on public property then anyone can take it. Otherwise a golf cart or any other object at the end of a driveway could be considered set out for collection and removed without penalty.

From a Florida Judge:

In my view, a homeowner, upon placing items in a closed garbage container and placing the container in a position on his property where the container can be conveniently removed by authorized trash collectors, is entitled to reasonably expect that the container and the trash therein will be removed from his property only by those authorized to do so, and that such trash will be disposed of in the manner provided by ordinance or private contract. By sealing the containers in a secure manner and placing the containers on his own property, the owner has done everything within his own means to insure the privacy of the contents thereof, short of delivering the containers to a central disposal site himself.
State of Florida v. Schultz, 388 So.2d 1326, 1330 (Fla.Dist.Ct.App. 1980) (Anstead, J., dissenting)

[Bogie Shooter]

The key word is curb and not end of your driveway. Trash sitting on the end of your driveway is not fair game to be taken. As the Villages really does not have a curb if the trash is still on the end of your driveway it is still on your property and it is no more legal to take it than anything else in your driveway. A curb would be an area where multiple trash containers are placed for pickup. Once again Community Watch is dodging responsibility for anything, what is it they really do for the residents except give us reasons why they cannot do anything? Checking pools, rec centers, gates, etc. is done for the developer at our expense since we don't own these properties but we do pay them for checking them.

These are recreational amenities that the developer sold to the VCCDD.
There is a good explanation of this here:
http://www.districtgov.org/images/whatsnew/recnews2009031.pdf

[TraceyMooreRN]

If my trash is on my property it is of no concern to the Supreme Court. If I sit it out on public property then anyone can take it. Otherwise a golf cart or any other object at the end of a driveway could be considered set out for collection and removed without penalty.

From a Florida Judge:

In my view, a homeowner, upon placing items in a closed garbage container and placing the container in a position on his property where the container can be conveniently removed by authorized trash collectors, is entitled to reasonably expect that the container and the trash therein will be removed from his property only by those authorized to do so, and that such trash will be disposed of in the manner provided by ordinance or private contract. By sealing the containers in a secure manner and placing the containers on his own property, the owner has done everything within his own means to insure the privacy of the contents thereof, short of delivering the containers to a central disposal site himself.
State of Florida v. Schultz, 388 So.2d 1326, 1330 (Fla.Dist.Ct.App. 1980) (Anstead, J., dissenting)


So- Are you saying that because your trash is on your property it belongs to you, even if at the end of your driveway? I certainly think you would be calling the trash collection department to complain if your trash remained on your property and not on the public portion or roadway. Do you really put your trash on the street to pick up or is it in the partially sealed trash bag at the end of driveway with the other almost 100,000 people in the villages on collection day?

[TraceyMooreRN]

Once again Community Watch is dodging responsibility for anything, what is it they really do for the residents except give us reasons why they cannot do anything? Checking pools, rec centers, gates, etc. is done for the developer at our expense since we don't own these properties but we do pay them for checking them.

IMHO- The Community Watch is no more responsible for your trash than you are when you set it out for trash collection. Take responsibility and shred documents. Place your trash on the curb, end of your driveway, in the grass (wherever you want) the night before or in the am if you prefer.

From Collection service, Frequently asked questions: "Where do I place the trash bags on collection day?" Place the bags at the end of your driveway, at the edge of the street. Bags must be placed for collection before 7:00 a.m. on your collection day or the night before.

What exactly do you want the Community Watch to do for you about missing trash?

[perrjojo]

I am so confused. You put it out on the curb, driveway or whatever. To me that means you no longer want it...you are releasing ownership. Some one comes along and decides to take it. You have signaled that you don't want it by placing it for disposal. They take it. What is the problem?

[buggyone]

I am so confused. You put it out on the curb, driveway or whatever. To me that means you no longer want it...you are releasing ownership. Some one comes along and decides to take it. You have,signaled that you don't want it by placing it for disposal. They take it. What is the problem?

Absolutely right! If you are afraid someone might get personal info about you by stealing trash, you would not have put that info in the trash in the first place.

I remember reading a thread a couple of years ago where a woman was going to the airport very early in the morning and put her suitcase at the end of the driveway and went back inside. When she came back out 15 minutes later, it was gone. No one figured out if a "picker" or the garbageman took it. Bottom line was she was very foolish to leave it at end of driveway.

[ALR5ALR]

I too have had late night pickers,not residents but outsiders,so I called Scott at Neighbor Hood Watch and asked him if I was living in a third world country,he said they were " looking into it"......my contention is because the streets are county anyone can drive around late night,but if the trash is on YOUR grass at the curb is'nt that trespassing ?????

[buggyone]

I too have had late night pickers,not residents but outsiders,so I called Scott at Neighbor Hood Watch and asked him if I was living in a third world country,he said they were " looking into it"......my contention is because the streets are county anyone can drive around late night,but if the trash is on YOUR grass at the curb is'nt that trespassing ?????

1. How do you KNOW they are not Villagers?

2. Why do you care if someone besides the garbageman takes your trash?

3. If a Villager would walk on your grass a foot from the street - would you think about calling Community Watch or the police because they are "trespassing"?

4. What harm was done to you if someone besides the garbageman took your trash?

[Bogie Shooter]

I too have had late night pickers,not residents but outsiders,so I called Scott at Neighbor Hood Watch and asked him if I was living in a third world country,he said they were " looking into it"......my contention is because the streets are county anyone can drive around late night,but if the trash is on YOUR grass at the curb is'nt that trespassing ?????

See posts 1 thru 63.:wave:

[KeepingItReal]

So- Are you saying that because your trash is on your property it belongs to you, even if at the end of your driveway? I certainly think you would be calling the trash collection department to complain if your trash remained on your property and not on the public portion or roadway. Do you really put your trash on the street to pick up or is it in the partially sealed trash bag at the end of driveway with the other almost 100,000 people in the villages on collection day?


What?
Ever wonder why you see bags of trash on the sides of roads? Likely thrown out by so called trash thieves after going through it and now the county will go through it and come to you for an explanation why you threw it out on the side of a road with a possible citation. Trash placed at the end of your drive is still on your property and should remain so until those you have authorized to remove it does just that. My trash for your info is on my property and is picked up without any problems and yes it does belong to me until picked up by the trash pickup service which I have authorized to remove it, and then it is theirs and it is their responsibility to dispose of it properly as they are paid and have contracted to do.

A homeowner, upon placing items in a closed garbage container and placing the container in a position on his property where the container can be conveniently removed by authorized trash collectors, is entitled to reasonably expect that the container and the trash therein will be removed from his property only by those authorized to do so, and that such trash will be disposed of in the manner provided by ordinance or private contract. By sealing the containers in a secure manner and placing the containers on his own property, the owner has done everything within his own means to insure the privacy of the contents thereof, short of delivering the containers to a central disposal site himself.
State of Florida v. Schultz, 388 So.2d 1326, 1330 (Fla.Dist.Ct.App. 1980) (Anstead, J., dissenting)

[ilovetv]

I remember reading that No Solicitors are allowed in TV neighborhoods.

Why, then, would you pamper Trash Theives swarming around in the driveways??

Both are a nuisance--and even menace--to have creeping around outside the house, much less pilfering in the dark as trash thieves do.