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Bobstr
01-31-2014, 07:16 PM
Just returned from Woodys-Wildwood tonight and 2 ladies had a so called 20 lb. terrier service dog sitting at the table with them on the seat at a booth. Is this allowed nowdays?

784caroline
01-31-2014, 08:22 PM
Service dogs come in all shapes an types and are vastly different than theraphy dogs. Most service dogs that we are familiar with are for the blind or deaf...but many service dogs today deal with specific issues such as seizures etc. Service dogs are protected by law.Sitting on the seat may be a different issue!

wendyquat
01-31-2014, 09:17 PM
What's wrong with sitting in a seat? That's the only way they can reach their plates! :1rotfl::doggie:

Easyrider
01-31-2014, 09:46 PM
Just returned from Woodys-Wildwood tonight and 2 ladies had a so called 20 lb. terrier service dog sitting at the table with them on the seat at a booth. Is this allowed nowdays?

Short answer is no. The threads at the links below have all the information you need to report it if you choose..Read post 22 and follow the links too.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/restaurant-discussions-90/we-like-red-sauce-because-allows-pets-outside-90294/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/restaurant-discussions-90/what-happen-redsauce-93099/

cab1948
01-31-2014, 11:28 PM
We were also at Woody's tonight with two other couples and we noticed the dog sitting in the booth with 2 ladies. Don't know if it was a service dog but I was taken back that they would allow the dog to sit in the booth resting his head on the table.

KittyKat
02-01-2014, 02:15 AM
Why didn't you guys say something to the manager? Ask politely why the dog didn't have to sit on the floor?

Barefoot
02-01-2014, 02:33 AM
If it's a service dog that senses seizures , perhaps the dog has to stay close to it's owner. I adore dogs and I wouldn't think twice about seeing one in a booth. But I totally understand that it would bother a lot of people. So surely the manager could politely question whether it is a service dog, and why it needs to be on the seat and not the floor. If it's not a service dog, the diner should be asked to remove the dog or herself.

I think there are valid reasons for having service dogs. My friend had a fluffy white Maltese that senses seizures, and it sure doesn't look like a lab seeing-eye dog. Some are legit. But I also think there are people wrongfully taking advantage and pretending they have service dogs when they don't. And that's just wrong!

kittygilchrist
02-01-2014, 03:45 AM
If it's a service dog that senses seizures , perhaps the dog has to stay close to it's owner. I adore dogs and I wouldn't think twice about seeing one in a booth. But I totally understand that it would bother a lot of people. So surely the manager could politely question whether it is a service dog, and why it needs to be on the seat and not the floor. If it's not a service dog, the diner should be asked to remove the dog or herself.

I think there are valid reasons for having service dogs. My friend had a fluffy white Maltese that senses seizures, and it sure doesn't look like a lab seeing-eye dog. Some are legit. But I also think there are people wrongfully taking advantage and pretending they have service dogs when they don't. And that's just wrong!

You said it all Barefoot...

edwardt6
02-01-2014, 07:23 AM
I know someone with a certified service pig he would be up at barbecue palce.

karostay
02-01-2014, 08:13 AM
:click: Revised ADA Requirements: Service Animals (http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm)

Bobstr
02-01-2014, 09:23 AM
Sorry I failed to ask a (the) manager but it sure seemed also there was no one in charge as it looked to me. Me bad for thinking that the waiter/waitress should also know otherwise on the ruling of such. Just an owner bending the rules.

justjim
02-01-2014, 09:44 AM
Staff at a restaurant "cannot ask for a ID card or training documentation" for a Service Dog--so my question is simply how can anyone know if the dog is legit?

I see all kinds of potential abuse regarding Service Dogs. In order for a handicap person to park in a handicap parking space you are required to have handicap identification on your vehicle. It seems that some form of official identification should be required for a Service Dog in order to distinguish it from a regular pet.

karostay
02-01-2014, 10:57 AM
When it is not obvious what service an animal provides, only limited inquiries are allowed. Staff may ask two questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability, and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform. Staff cannot ask about the person’s disability, require medical documentation, require a special identification card or training documentation for the dog, or ask that the dog demonstrate its ability to perform the work or task.

Bobstr
02-01-2014, 04:44 PM
I do understand if the person has a problem or so the dog doesn't still sit at the table. He still belongs on the floor.

travelguy
02-01-2014, 05:15 PM
was in starbucks, lake sumter landing, a few sundays ago and there were 2 young men with a large dog on a leash. this was not a service dog, and when the manager told them that could not wait on line with their pet they refused to leave the cafe. a customer got involved and also told them that they could not have their dog with them, but the men stayed in line and ordered and received their beverages. why the manager did not refuse to serve them is unclear; the manager did call the police but the culprits were long gone by the time they arrived. our 'entitled' society has created a monster. what passes for 'freedom' can also be interpreted as bullying. self-expression is allowed anywhere it seems, regardless of how it offends or infringes on others. this bothers me.

onslowe
02-01-2014, 05:23 PM
was in starbucks, lake sumter landing, a few sundays ago and there were 2 young men with a large dog on a leash. this was not a service dog, and when the manager told them that could not wait on line with their pet they refused to leave the cafe. a customer got involved and also told them that they could not have their dog with them, but the men stayed in line and ordered and received their beverages. why the manager did not refuse to serve them is unclear; the manager did call the police but the culprits were long gone by the time they arrived. our 'entitled' society has created a monster. what passes for 'freedom' can also be interpreted as bullying. self-expression is allowed anywhere it seems, regardless of how it offends or infringes on others. this bothers me.

Boy, how I agree! It is unfortunate that the manager lacked basic courage. What good did calling the police do after the fact? Wimpy and meaningless and sadly watched by those present who follow rules and customs.

ilovetv
02-01-2014, 05:38 PM
Boy, how I agree! It is unfortunate that the manager lacked basic courage. What good did calling the police do after the fact? Wimpy and meaningless and sadly watched by those present who follow rules and customs.

Like most situations now, the manager probably feared getting sued....or fired for not allowing the customer to do whatever he darn well pleases.

CFrance
02-01-2014, 05:59 PM
Staff at a restaurant "cannot ask for a ID card or training documentation" for a Service Dog--so my question is simply how can anyone know if the dog is legit?

I see all kinds of potential abuse regarding Service Dogs. In order for a handicap person to park in a handicap parking space you are required to have handicap identification on your vehicle. It seems that some form of official identification should be required for a Service Dog in order to distinguish it from a regular pet.

I totally agree. And there are all sorts of service dog i.d. tags/vests/badges available online to anyone, no proof required. So the i.d. should be something the service dog training facilities provide that cannot be easily duplicated.