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784caroline
11-08-2007, 10:48 PM
I just want to thank everyone on the board for helping me in my decision. I looked at a number of dealers as well as types of cart 2 vs 4 seat// Club Car vs Yamaha// Gas vs Electric. There appears to be an overwhelming number of satisfied customers with Golf Car connection so I just had to visit the location off 441. Now mind you, I was this close to closing a deal on a 4 seat Club Car (rehab) and I actualy get a telephone call from another dealer and as I walk into Golf Cart Connection to broker price, delvery etc. However when I entered Golf Car Connection I see the Corvette I always wanted but never had in my younger days. Ended up buying a Club Car 2 seat Bright yellow with great graphics on the sides to include a painted entended roof, sumbrella Pkg, and best of all 12 inch village approved (for golf) chrome mag wheels and tire package. Im sure it will be the only one at LSL Friday night.
BTW I dealt with Michelle and I have to tell you she was as knowledgeable as anyone I dealt with in my search for this cart. The plus factor is that she helped with some of the color coordination that needed to be done and helped with other things that just made me feel comfortable..with absolutely no pressure....besides I bought this without my better half :#1: present... They will have it charged up, a new burled dash installed and have it delivered tomorrow afternoon. Great service and attitude in dealing with clients.
JohnN
11-08-2007, 10:59 PM
hey great, cool beans! LOL.. I'm visiting there when my turn comes soon enough
chuckinca
11-08-2007, 11:41 PM
One more reason to not bring the wife when I go Golf Cart Shopping! LOL
If I take her we'll end up with a new Lexus GS 460 instead of a cart
Bubbalarry
11-09-2007, 12:18 AM
One more reason to not bring the wife when I go Golf Cart Shopping! LOL
If I take her we'll end up with a new Lexus GS 460 instead of a cart
I totally agree with you.
I now own a Mercedes Benz SL500 after visiting TV cart store. Her answer was if you can have your toy so can moi.
BTW she's not french
784caroline
11-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Bubba Larry
They can add "insights" to certain features but she is not available was great to have an impartial person assist with some of the decisions.
Just curious who is the "decsion maker" when buying a Golf Cart in TV??
Bubbalarry
11-11-2007, 02:08 AM
Bubba Larry
They can add "insights" to certain features but she is not available was great to have an impartial person assist with some of the decisions.
Just curious who is the "decsion maker" when buying a Golf Cart in TV??
The one who has the SL 500
Bubbalarry
11-14-2007, 01:16 AM
Well we finally made it to TV last Thursday. Have been going crazy getting all the new furniture delivered and comcast up and running.
So finally yesterday went to several cart stores and after listening to the BS that most of the sales reps put out found the right cart for me at GOLF CART CONNECTIONS.
To see the Villages golf carts and prices they have put them at the bottom of my list. Next to the bottom is EZ-GO. Salesman was so full of **** it was silly.
Then came AAA golf cart. They work out of there home, so forget them
Final stop was at Golf Connection and as posted previously how knowledgeable, and honest they were was refreshing.
So we purchased a rebuilt Club Car Electric DS IQ with all its toys to include a high speed/HP Motor with a maximum speed of 23 MPH. All this with a $2,000 in savings plus a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty.
Now how can you beat that? Of course they are 2004/5 models but they are completly rebuilt with everything new.
We looked into the Curtis Cab, but heard some reports not to high on them and also hear the company is trying to have new ones for Yamaha & EZ-GO in 2008.
Still we decided on the sunbrella and chose not to have the solar panels installed.
So if you see a Penn Sate marked cart zooming by you'll know it's BUBBA.
Thank You Golf Connections
bamafan
11-14-2007, 01:30 AM
Golf Cart Connection is a wonderful place. Glad to hear you got a great deal.
travelstiles
11-14-2007, 01:38 AM
Question for the golf cart owners from a soon to be Village Person. Do you prefer gas or electric, and what is the mileage on each. I am very spoiled driving a Chili Pepper Red Mini Cooper that's given me >40 mpg and only needs the room of a golf cart garage ;D
Well we finally made it to TV last Thursday. Have been going crazy getting all the new furniture delivered and comcast up and running.
So finally yesterday went to several cart stores and after listening to the BS that most of the sales reps put out found the right cart for me at GOLF CART CONNECTIONS.
To see the Villages golf carts and prices they have put them at the bottom of my list. Next to the bottom is EZ-GO. Salesman was so full of :edit: it was silly.
Then came AAA golf cart. They work out of there home, so forget them
Final stop was at Golf Connection and as posted previously how knowledgeable, and honest they were was refreshing.
So we purchased a rebuilt Club Car Electric DS IQ with all its toys to include a high speed/HP Motor with a maximum speed of 23 MPH. All this with a $2,000 in savings plus a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty.
Now how can you beat that? Of course they are 2004/5 models but they are completly rebuilt with everything new.
We looked into the Curtis Cab, but heard some reports not to high on them and also hear the company is trying to have new ones for Yamaha & EZ-GO in 2008.
Still we decided on the sunbrella and chose not to have the solar panels installed.
So if you see a Penn Sate marked cart zooming by you'll know it's BUBBA.
Thank You Golf Connections
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DickY
11-14-2007, 01:07 PM
Ditto :agree:
golfnut
11-14-2007, 03:56 PM
Sounds like you got just what you wanted Bubba, godd luck and I'll keep an eye out for the Penn State cart, although i think I've seen several others, how will I know yours when I see it, what color is it, are your names on it?
Russ_Boston
11-14-2007, 04:15 PM
23 mph? Be careful to avoid the golf cart police!
Bubbalarry
11-15-2007, 03:37 AM
Sounds like you got just what you wanted Bubba, godd luck and I'll keep an eye out for the Penn State cart, although i think I've seen several others, how will I know yours when I see it, what color is it, are your names on it?
Bubba & Dee with Navy blue and white colors along with silver for the Penn State Nittany Lions Football team. GO PSU.
WE ARE PENN STATE
WE ARE PENN STATE :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :hot: :hot: :clap2: :clap2:
Russ_Boston
11-15-2007, 02:57 PM
Go Bryant University Bulldogs - GO.
OK, I'll shut up now! :joke:
784caroline
11-15-2007, 03:58 PM
Travelstiles
We also were in a quandry to buy electric vs gas but I have to tell you the "electric" rebuilt Club Car from Golf Car connection has plently of pickup and torque for hills. I can easily pass most electric and some gas models out there. My biggest problem is that I forget to plug it in at night and I have even gotten up in the middle of the night to plug it in...but im sure "charging" will become second nature after I own and use the cart for a while.
Bubba..and this is from a person born and raised in Scranton Pa...home of "The Office" reunion.!!
Becky
11-25-2007, 06:41 PM
Sign me up as another satisfied Golf Cart Connection customer! :bigthumbsup: Just got back from a week at TV and bought a Club Car. Warranty made me feel better than buying a used one from someone. They took the old 2001 EZGO I had as a trade-in. Really like the newer one. Worked with Michelle also, and she was great! No pressure and knowledgeable.
Becky
golfnut
11-26-2007, 12:40 AM
I have heard a lot of good comments on Golf Cart connection, Jan you should take this thread there and see if they want to advertise here.
784caroline
11-26-2007, 02:55 PM
Becky
Glad to hear you were able to work a deal with Michelle and were pleased with the outcome. Just curious, how do they handle trade-ins??? Is it like buying a car with a trade-in??
Golfnut
When I was buying my cart at Colf Cart Connection, I mentioned this site to Michelle and Tim the Sales Manager and the positive comments GCC was receiving. I was told that all marketing expenses are handled out of the Mt Dora location, but it would not bea bad idea to check with Tim first and have him on your side or even to make your pitch.
Becky
11-26-2007, 09:31 PM
784caroline, Yes it was just like a car trade. Told her the year, what kind, serial number. Had new tires and batteries. Michelle checked with someone and told me what they would give me for it. Had only had it a few months but just didn't feel comfortable with it. Connections gave me what I paid for it and deducted that from purchase price. Picked it up when they delivered new one. Very easy to deal with.
I also mentioned TOTV to Michelle. She said several people had mentioned it to her and she had gotten on and read what everyone was saying. Would be nice if they would advertize here!
Also Michelle said GCC has a policy that if you buy from them on a recommendation from a previous buyer, GCC gives the original buyer a $25 gift certificate! I hadn't heard that before.
Becky
Cliff
11-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Welcome to the "I can go faster than you crowd". GCC should realize that it is illegal to sell carts which exceed the limit of 19 1/2 mph. Shows just how much fear the local dealers have for law enforcement. And, of course, just how much respect buyers have when they order a cart which exceeds the legal speed limit. Be sure to let your ten year old grandson/granddaughter drive your cart and tell them how fast grandpa can go when he passes the other legal carts.
Becky
11-27-2007, 10:50 AM
Cliff, believe me- I am not trying to go faster than others. Just want to make it up the hills!
Becky
784caroline
11-27-2007, 02:51 PM
Cliff
I have no idea how fast my new cart can go (15, 19, or 23 MPH), I have no speedometer. I can tell you it has pick up and torque to go up hills and yes I can pass slower golf carts. As Becky said, I also definitely wanted something that can climb hills and as far as the slower carts I can pass, for alll I know they are only 36 volt, have older batteries, have no high speed (legal) gear, are carrying more weight, or simply they are leisurely drivers taking their time.
Golf Cart Connection never stated or implied (to me) that their carts can go in excess of any particular speed limit and it is not something you can judge before you purchase the cart (I did my test drive in ther back of a parking lot). I think you are wrong to infer that GCC is doing something illegal. For that matter, I think you are wrong to accuse people of not respecting the law because they buy a golf cart from ANY dealer because they "claim" it goes faster than other carts. There are alot of variables in speed as I tried to highlight above.
Russ_Boston
11-27-2007, 04:05 PM
Great point 784!
My car can go faster than 65 MPH but it is up to me to keep it to that speed if that is what the laws call for.
golfnut
11-27-2007, 04:14 PM
all true russ and 784, I have a friend who's cart is pretty fast, mainly use the extra speed to get around the realllly slow carts, then back down to normal speed and stay in line and follow the crowd. Good point on the fact that cars can go considerably faster than any speed limit, it's up to the operator to use common sense.
REDCART
11-28-2007, 01:18 AM
I read somewhere (probably on the web--and you know how accurate the web is!!!) that for every two inch increase in tire size, your golf cart will go 3 mph faster. The basic cart comes with 8" wheels. So if this info is accurate, 12"' wheels would give you a 6 mph advantage without tinkering with the governor or opting for high-speed gears. George
golfnut
11-28-2007, 01:45 AM
unless the cart is lifted I don't think 12" tires will fit.
784caroline
11-28-2007, 09:18 PM
George
Interesting comment about oversize wheels potentially contributing to an increase of MPH. However I understand the reverse may also be true in that initial pickup or torque may be reduced. If you find the article or source let me know!!
Golfnut....yes a cart needs to be lifted for 12 inch tires.
Bubbalarry
11-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Welcome to the "I can go faster than you crowd". GCC should realize that it is illegal to sell carts which exceed the limit of 19 1/2 mph. Shows just how much fear the local dealers have for law enforcement. And, of course, just how much respect buyers have when they order a cart which exceeds the legal speed limit. Be sure to let your ten year old grandson/granddaughter drive your cart and tell them how fast grandpa can go when he passes the other legal carts.
If your reply is accurate then why do car manufacturers build cars to speeds in excess of 100+MPH when the speed limits are at 65 & 70 MPH.
I bought my club car at GCC and they don't sell speeds they sell carts. The stock cart is set up for 19.0 MPH. You the buyer can have them put in a higher RPM motor instead for climbing them hills. Thats what gives the higher speeds, not them. Also those same motors can be recalculated by someone in the know to max out at even higher speeds. Some claim 30+MPH.
Cliff
11-28-2007, 10:23 PM
So, now the reason people want the souped-up motors is for climbing hills. What hills? There are a few inclines here in TV but only one or two (what you might call) hills. The Sheriff enforces a law which says that if your non-street legal and unregistered cart exceeds 19 1/2mph, you get a ticket. And, in order to boost the fine, they now want to forget the speeding ticket ($180+) and charge the driver with driving an unregistered vehicle (which carries a larger fine, takes the vehicle off the road, and requires a drive to the county courthouse for an appearance before a judge). Now, if you want to climb hills faster the legal carts, and you can measure your speed to make sure you don't go 20mph on the streets of TV, you go right ahead and do it. As for me, I'll keep to the legal cart which gives me about 19mph and a little less power on the inclines in order to keep out of the courts, keep my insurance premiums low, and keep my good driving record. Who do you think you are kidding by saying you put the high speed motor in your cart in order to climb hills???????????
Hancle704
11-29-2007, 02:42 AM
Just a matter of curiosity, when folks have their golf carts modified to enable them to go faster, do they also modify the braking system to enable the carts to stop as fast as the 19.5 MPH carts and do they do something to adjust the stabilization of carts that are now making turns like NASCAR vehicles?
DENNIS G
11-29-2007, 11:41 AM
I read somewhere (probably on the web--and you know how accurate the web is!!!) that for every two inch increase in tire size, your golf cart will go 3 mph faster. The basic cart comes with 8" wheels. So if this info is accurate, 12"' wheels would give you a 6 mph advantage without tinkering with the governor or opting for high-speed gears. George
DENNIS G
11-29-2007, 12:45 PM
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CONSIDERING CHANGEING TO LARGER TIRES AND WHEELS. LARGER TIRES AND WHEELS DO INCREASE SPEED BUT THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT LOSS IN TORQUE FOR HILL CLIMBING. HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ON SIZE OF TIRES AND WHEELS TO CONSIDER.
TIRE SIZE WHEEL SIZE TIRE HEIGHT
18-8.50-8 8 INCH 18.00 INCHES (STANDARD TIRE AND WHEEL)
215-35-12 12 INCH 17.93 INCHES
205-50-10 10 INCH 18.07 INCHES
215-50-10 10 INCH 18.46 INCHES
205-60-10 10 INCH 19.69 INCHES
205-65-10 10 INCH 20.50 INCHES
20-8-10 10 INCH 20.00 INCHES
23-10.50-12 12 INCH 23.00 INCHES
205-50-15 15 INCH 23.00 INCHES
ANYTHING ABOVE 19.46 INCHES WILL NOT FIT YAMAHA G22 ON THE REAR WITHOUT USING A LIFT KIT. CLUB CARS CAN GO UP TO 20.5 WITHOUT LIFT KIT (DEPENDING ON YOUR LOAD) IF YOU HAVE A 4 SEATER WITH STANDARD SPRINGS (1 LEAF ON REAR) YOU SHOULD USE THE HEAVY DUTY SPRINGS (3-4 LEAF) TO KEEP FROM SCRUBING ON THE FENDERS. THE USE OF 23-10.50-12 AND ABOVE ON ANY CART REQUIRES 6 TO 8 INCH LIFT KITS.
HAVE A GREAT DAY AND SAFE HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
DENNIS G
11-29-2007, 12:57 PM
unless the cart is lifted I don't think 12" tires will fit.
215-35-12 TIRES AND WHEELS WILL FIT ANY CART WITHOUT A LIFT KIT BEING INSTALLED AS THEY ARE ONLY 17.93 INCHES IN HEIGHT, SLIGHLY LESS THAN STANDARD TIRES OF 18-8.50-8.
784caroline
11-29-2007, 03:18 PM
Just curious Cliff, how are you determining your speed of 19 MPH or are you simply restating what someone told you or assuming that is your speed. For all you know it may be 13MPH or even 20 :cop: .
Bottom line is if you and everyone drives reasonable and with some common sense everyone can be happy without assuming everyone who claims to have a "fast cart" is guilty of something.
chacam
11-29-2007, 05:48 PM
If you know anyone with a portable handheld GPS unit, borrow it and use it to check your speed. They are very accurate. I also have a Schwinn bicycle speedo installed from Walmart, less than $20. Speedometer, odometer and a lot of other functions.
punkpup
11-29-2007, 05:58 PM
I have no idea how fast the Golf Cart goes which we borrowed from our friend when in TV last March as there was no speedometer. Since my previous Golf Cart experience had been limited to golf courses it was somewhat intimidating to be driving on designated cart "paths"/roads coupled with the fact that we were using a combination of maps and GPS to navigate because we didn't know our way around. I was totally unnerved by how fast some folks took turns and flew up/down, in/out and all around tunnels, roundabouts and intersections :yikes:.
If someone rolled up behind us going faster I just pulled over and let them pass; except for those individuals with "Super Carts" who blew by us so fast we never had a chance to move over crap :duck:
When asked about Golf Cart accidents one of our friends said that there have been some horrendous accidents which gave me pause to consider Golf Cart safety. Perhaps a fully armored, tank styled Golf Cart might be appropriate 1rnfl .
As I've mentioned before I have a tendency to drive on the speedy side; I'm sure that after spending more time in TV I'll be more comfortable on the paths/roads but I'm not sure I really want a "Super Cart"; I'm more inclined to buy a "Super Bike" evil6
Russ_Boston
11-29-2007, 07:19 PM
I guess I'll have to consider this Hummer golf cart:
http://www.uberreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/h2%20hummer%20golf%20cart.jpg
punkpup
11-29-2007, 09:31 PM
I guess I'll have to consider this Hummer golf cart:
http://www.uberreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/h2%20hummer%20golf%20cart.jpg
:agree: :hot: :clap2: 040 Now that's what I'm talking about evil6 1rnfl I bet that custom job costs a fortune!
Cliff
11-29-2007, 09:37 PM
784caroline, I am driving my third golf cart since moving to FL. Each and every time I was asked by the dealer if I wanted a standard motor or a high speed motor (wink, wink) I have only owned the standard which is rated at 19 or below mph. The people here that we are afraid of are getting gas carts and taking off the governor in order to gain speed. The electric carts we are in fear of are the ones where the motor and differential (I believe it is called that) are specially geared to go faster than the normal cart. These carts, not registered to legally drive on the main roadways, sometimes exceed 35mph. That is REALLY fast when traveling on the golf cart paths. It doesn't take a genius to know when someone is coming at you in excess of 19mph. If you currently live in TV, you know that to be true. Today's Observer had a great article on how the Sheriffs Dept has modified it's fight against cart speeders. Forget a speeding ticket for the cart driver. They will charge him/her with driving an unregistered vehicle, report the violation to insurance companies, require the driver to appear before a judge, and, if they are inclined to do so, they can lock up the driver. I can see this happening when you get a speeder who has been at the 2fors at the town centers and is heading home driving like a NASCAR driver. I'm all for the increased enforcement. The life they save may be mine or someone I love. The standard golf cart is not designed to be safe when traveling at speeds over 19mph. Enough said? The only time I want to appear before a judge is when I serve on jury duty.
punkpup
11-30-2007, 10:08 PM
Just as I suspected :yikes:
"Golf courses can be a little rough during this time of the year. Your every day golf cart may not handle the rough terrain. The H2 Hummer Golf Cart will get you around the golf course in style. The 3.75hp Electric Motor is the most fuel efficient Hummer on the market. The golf cart can hit top speeds of 25 mph and comes with an array of features such as Seat Belts - $285.00 or the essential Diamond Plate Utility Box - $585.00. If golfing with your posse is more your style you can get 6 Passenger Limo Version for an additional $3,874.00 or a 8 Passenger Stretch Limo Version an additional $4,974. Base Price: $17850"
Think I'll run right out and get me one, NOT! 1rnfl
nONIE
11-30-2007, 11:29 PM
I wish I knew that my candy apple red golf cart from Discount golf carts would break down 3 days after we bought it. If I had known that Golf Cart connection had such rave reviews, that would have been my choice!
However, they did come out and fix it so we will give them the benefit of the doubt. Barefoot, see what you would have gotten yourself into! >:(
REDCART
12-11-2007, 04:16 AM
There's been so much talk about GCC, that I see thev've now decided to join as sponsors of TOTV. Have to be honest, never considered a Star golf cart until I went to their web site. I'd seen enough of them around with their bumpers and unique logo but just assumed they were Club cars. We find it's cheaper and more practical to rent a golf cart for the few weeks that we're down but we'll be buying one sooner or later. Sponsors shouldn't just assume that everyone already has one.
The Great Fumar
12-11-2007, 05:02 AM
Lightin up Clifford:
All the responses stated that if they have a cart that runs 25 mph (thats miles per hour) they are only interested the legal speed limit, No reason to panic about police cars, judges,jail,traveling to Ocala in a golf cart to go to court and staying the weekend in jail only to be bailed out by your insurance agent......live a little Cliff, ps Have you taken your puilse lately ????? Its only money pal.....I have two carts and they are both hot, My wife always takes the fastest one and leaves me with the slower go'er
yesterday returning from one of the many beautiful golf courses in tv , I actually passed a LEXUS. granted he was backing out of a parking space but it was thrilling......enjoy , enjoy.............
gratton
12-11-2007, 01:44 PM
Fast cars --Slow cars, If you are sensible you will drive sensible, If your a complainer about the fast cars you must always be complaining about the cars on the road too, Look if your cart go's over 20 miles per hour, and you drive it that fast then you should get a ticket, the same as anybody else driving on the highways, But if your doing 15 and a cart passes you why do you give them a dirty look when they pass you because your the one going slow, That your right to go slow but don't get down on the guy who passes you. And as far as I know there is no law here in the villages that even says you have to have a driver license to operate a golf cart on the streets let alone insurance. And how about those who pile a bunch of kids in the golf cart and drive down the road, What about the seat belts that you use in your car that you strap them into, Do you think of that when you put the kids in your golf cart and drive down one of the streets in your golf cart with no protection, I bet some of the complainers are the one who pile the kids in the cart or even let them drive. So lets just drive sensible, Your cart may go 25 and there's nothings wrong with that just keep the speed down and use it when its needed like your regular car.
bamafan
12-12-2007, 03:11 AM
Gratton, Well said :agree:
Bubbalarry
12-12-2007, 05:03 AM
784caroline, I am driving my third golf cart since moving to FL. Each and every time I was asked by the dealer if I wanted a standard motor or a high speed motor (wink, wink) I have only owned the standard which is rated at 19 or below mph. The people here that we are afraid of are getting gas carts and taking off the governor in order to gain speed. The electric carts we are in fear of are the ones where the motor and differential (I believe it is called that) are specially geared to go faster than the normal cart. These carts, not registered to legally drive on the main roadways, sometimes exceed 35mph. That is REALLY fast when traveling on the golf cart paths. It doesn't take a genius to know when someone is coming at you in excess of 19mph. If you currently live in TV, you know that to be true. Today's Observer had a great article on how the Sheriffs Dept has modified it's fight against cart speeders. Forget a speeding ticket for the cart driver. They will charge him/her with driving an unregistered vehicle, report the violation to insurance companies, require the driver to appear before a judge, and, if they are inclined to do so, they can lock up the driver. I can see this happening when you get a speeder who has been at the 2fors at the town centers and is heading home driving like a NASCAR driver. I'm all for the increased enforcement. The life they save may be mine or someone I love. The standard golf cart is not designed to be safe when traveling at speeds over 19mph. Enough said? The only time I want to appear before a judge is when I serve on jury duty.
Golf carts that exceed your 19 MPH are not standard carts they have improvements.
So I agree standard carts should not exceed the 19 MPH. The faster carts have different tires.
Now I don't feel 23 to 25 MPH is all that bad, however above 25 is in my opinion excessive. So when we talk about another 5 MPH were not talking about allot. Besides you can get just as hurt at 10 MPH. Yes you may get a ticket and fined but thats up to the individual who did the crime.
I think the people who drive carts and think they are in cars is more pathetic than this speed issue with carts. Tons of people in carts have no idea how to drive them, regardless of the speed issue. Many don't turn on the lights at nighttime and forget to use the turn signals, and they sneer at you like it's your fault. Many times I feel like I am in France driving for my life with the French. Who in my opinion are the most ignorant drivers in the world.
Maybe someone should start a thread here about who are the worst drivers you have experienced around the world and why.
Finally I understand and agree with you on the speeds of 35 MPH in carts. Those are the ones who should receive the wrath from the Sheriff because that speed is severely in excess not a cart doing 25. Although if caught should be ticketed for speeding thats it nothing more.
chacam
12-12-2007, 11:14 AM
I keep hearing 19 MPH, or 19.5 MPH, or some other number. Can someone cite the legislation that spells that out ? I have heard that it also was a federal standard ? Anyone know ?
784caroline
12-12-2007, 01:41 PM
Talk Host
Glad to see that Golf Cart Connection finally signed on as a sponsor. :welcome: They deserve our business and hopefully will meet everyone's wishes at the point of sale and folllow up service.
784caroline
12-16-2007, 02:37 PM
Chacam
Did anyone ever write you a private note providing the legal "citation" for 19.5 MPH as the max speed for golf carts in TV??
I know, I as well as many, others would probably be interested in seeing this.
Sidney Lanier
12-16-2007, 03:22 PM
For us, the purpose of the golf cart is to get us from here to there--safely--not how fast it can be done. Being insurance-conscious, we headed over to the AAA office in Spanish Springs and had an eye-opening chat with an agent who had nothing to gain (she had already referred us to the Allstate office as we want insurance that would allow anyone we designate to drive our golf cart). She told us about two fairly recent fatal accidents, one involving someone hitting a curb (which is not all that hard to do...), and another accident in which the driver was so badly hurt (think it was nerve damage in wrists and arms) that it'll be months and months of recovery. As with driving a car, I know that I must be conscious not only of my own driving but that of other drivers around me. It shouldn't be any different with a golf cart....
chacam
12-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Florida statute----Title XXXII, Chapter 320 deals with motor vehicle licenses and states the following in subsection 22.
(22) "Golf cart" means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.
Don't know where all this 19MPH bs came from. Lots of misinformation and rumors out there.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0320/SEC01.HTM&Title=->2007->Ch0320->Section%2001#0320.01
JohnZ
12-16-2007, 05:41 PM
Not owning a golf cart, I look at this issue in the context of personal freedoms. I like extra speed ability. When I pass an eighteen-wheeler that's making me nervous with what appears to be an unstable load at 80 mph....I'm not worrying about my cholesterol level. And, I like taking full advantage of my 300 HP high performance screamer at those times. The freedom to purchase a high performance anything is a good thing to have. Golf carts should be no exception.
There are those among us who can handle speed with ease. If hot golf cart performance is want we want, why not have it? Extra power and speed can be used with good judgement. Unsafe drivers who are caught violating the law should be punished. Simple. These unsafe drivers have drivers licenses, do they not? Points? Suspension? Revocation? Law enforcement is key.
I think the issue centers on a balance of common sense and ability. Not heeding shortcomings in both of those areas inevitably leads to catastrophe at some point. Darwin's Theory can be applied at any age. The unfortunate thing is that the Darwin Award contenders sometimes injure others who do possess common sense and ability in full measure.
MikeH
12-16-2007, 07:07 PM
Please read Fl law regarding golf cart type vehicles. Has nothing to do with how fast you drive it. If they can go more than 19.5 mph they are illegal.
chacam
12-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Where is 19.5 mph written anywhere ? ? ?
Golf-Tinker
12-16-2007, 09:24 PM
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/99laws/ch_99-163.pdf
Russ_Boston
12-16-2007, 10:31 PM
You boys are splitting hairs - 20 or 19.5 - Does it really matter?
The point that was made is that it is illegal for Golf Carts to be made that CAN exceed 20MPH (or 19.5 max if you prefer). Most of this thread has dealt with someone's right to drive over that if they want and the point is that Golf Carts are not supposed to be able to do that by law. LSV's can go between 20 and 25 according to the law linked above.
I guess it is possible legally to soup up a golf cart and call it an electric LSV thereby allowing it to go between 20 and 25 but then it is not a golf cart according to the law.
JohnZ
12-16-2007, 11:37 PM
Florida law defines a "golf-cart" as a vehicle that is manufactured with specifications such that it not be capable of exceeding 20 mph? If it does, it is considered a low-speed vehicle (LSV) and must be registered and insured. The limit for an LSV is 25 mph. If someone buys a golf cart from a dealer....and if it is capable of exceeding 20 mph.....can the dealer be held liable if the driver is cited or is involved in an accident? Interesting question huh?
My point is this: it is the responsibility of the driver to use a vehicle safely regardless of its capability. I'm confident that a little research may reveal that most golf cart accidents around here are not speed related. Carelessness and driver skill might play much larger role in my opinion and that applies to automobiles as well.
bamafan
12-17-2007, 03:24 AM
Chacam The 19 and 19.5 is the speed the dealers set the carts to. It is just under the legal limit which as the law states is 20 mph. I am sure it is to relieve them of liability and to help prevent them from being sued.
When I was looking for a cart I noticed that Villages Golf cars had a tag on their cars with the max speed written on it by a tech. Most were 19,5mph. I also encountered dealers that would show me how to turn up the speed, but would not do it for me as they did not want to be liable.
Bubbalarry
12-17-2007, 03:31 AM
Thats it I heard enough you guys win I am now going to change out my motor since it goes at 23 MPH and not 19 or 20.
I AM GOING TO PUT IN A MOTOR TO GO 30+, AND WAVE AT YOU ALL AS I GO BY.
Cliff
12-22-2007, 10:23 PM
I have deliberately stayed away from this thread for quite some time. I figured there was no sense in discussing the legality of breaking the law and exceeding the legal speed limit in a golf cart. If a guy doesn't care whether or not he gets a ticket - they have hospitals for people like that. They also have jails for people like that. Go man, go. If you don't think insurance is necessary - don't hit me because you will wish you had insurance, lots of it too. Yes, people die in golf carts. And, they may not have been exceeding the legal speed limit either. Why take the chance? I don't think that is too hard a decision to make for the person of average intelligence. For those of you that disagree, get a low speed vehicle. That will get you out into the main roads and off the roads which we law abiding citizens want to travel in our legal golf carts. If you drive down my street, pass me with lots of speed, I look at your rear end to see if there is a Florida plate there. If there is, God speed. If there is not a Florida plate there, you are a damned fool and are speeding, breaking the laws as set down to try to protect your sorry bum. Now, have a blast coming up with reasons that you feel you really need to exempt you from traffic laws. I won't try to change your mind anymore. As far as I am concerned, you help pay the expenses of our law enforcement agencies and court systems and that is a good thing.
Bubbalarry
12-24-2007, 04:08 AM
Perhaps you should have listened to yourself and stayed away from this issue period. I find this speed issue silly. People will go and drive the way they want no matter what you say.
Please understand I don't approve excess speeding but I disapprove people making statements of "they have hospitals for people like that." Or people who make silly idle threats.
Please don't try to tell us that during your whole life you never went over the speed limit and that you never got a ticket thats BS.
Maybe what you should do is post your address for all to see so they can either choose to drive by your house speeding or avoid the area and stay away so you don't get so bent. I would definitely be one to avoid it because I would be going by with lots of speed as you mentioned.
First note that I am not specifically bashing you here but it seems you should
just drive your vehicle and stop worrying so much about the speeders. They will pay for mistakes they make, and if you try to avoid them will make life allot more enjoyable. It will also keep you safe.
No matter what you say people in general do go over the speed limit on occasion, sometimes without realizing it. I am one of them because I watch the road and people all around me whether in a car or cart. Thats because my eyes are on the road not the speedometer or all the sites and views around me.
As for insurance in my opinion everyone in the villages who drives on any street other than the designated cart paths and the golf courses should be required to have insurance liability period. Those who don't are extremely foolish.
Again relax, relax, life is way to short so please try to enjoy it and have a great day in TV.
784caroline
12-24-2007, 01:42 PM
Cliff this thread was dead for 6 days until you brought it up again...BAD DECISION on your part. It was going to die as people were "moving on" to something bigger and better. The original purpose of the thread was not to avocate breaking any laws regarding Golf cart speed. However as it developed, I as well as probably many others learned alot about local golf cart dealers, how a golf cart operates, how speed can be altered, and the florida statues that pertain to golf carts and for that I say thank you to all the contributing board participants.
This is a Discussion Board and people voice their opinions. You believe them or not, take them or leave'em, but you should not take anything so personal that it is obviously raising your boold pressure!! If you are taking these chats so serious you may want to stay away not only from this thread but most others. These boards are not only a source of information for many, it is a form of entertainment and socialization for many others. Threats of suing someone if they hit you or implicit comments about a hospital or jail stay were really uncalled for....besides its Xmas Eve....Merry Christmas !!!
golfnut
12-24-2007, 03:56 PM
:agree:, well said bubba and 784, :agree: it's time to let this one go. oh one more thing Merry Christmas
gemorc
12-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Will the moderator please kill this thread?
Bubbalarry
12-26-2007, 02:03 AM
Amen and a Merry Christemas and Happy New Years to all and to all a good night.
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