Real Estate Values near the Villages

[jebartle]

Absolutely beautiful tile roofed home 1800 sq. ft, view of par 3, on Mission Inn Golf Resort in Howey in the Hills, pool with waterfall spilling in lovely pool, 20 foot ceiling, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, built-ins, and an amazing price of $275,000.....I know, I know, it isn't the Villages, but I was amazed what you can buy outside the "circle of love"...

[Madelaine Amee]

Absolutely beautiful tile roofed home 1800 sq. ft, view of par 3, on Mission Inn Golf Resort in Howey in the Hills, pool with waterfall spilling in lovely pool, 20 foot ceiling, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, built-ins, and an amazing price of $275,000.....I know, I know, it isn't the Villages, but I was amazed what you can buy outside the "circle of love"...

But, how fast will it sell if your children have to sell your home! Some of these homes in Florida are on the market for years.

[John_W]

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How about 50 yards from TV's just off Rainey Trail for $168,900. That's masonry with a real tile roof, vaulted and tray ceilings, 2 car garage, 3BR 2BA, built in 2007, no bond, no maintenance, taxes $2200 and homeowner fee of $128 a month covers irrigation, pressure washing and painting.

There is no golf course, just a club house, pool, tennis courts and putting green. That's why the Lifestyle Preview Plan is one of the biggest selling tools, because you can't put a price on lifestyle.

[justjim]

Absolutely beautiful tile roofed home 1800 sq. ft, view of par 3, on Mission Inn Golf Resort in Howey in the Hills, pool with waterfall spilling in lovely pool, 20 foot ceiling, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, built-ins, and an amazing price of $275,000.....I know, I know, it isn't the Villages, but I was amazed what you can buy outside the "circle of love"...

:agree: All you have to do is look outside the TV bubble at homes near by to quickly see you can get much more house for the money and your cost of living is much less than it will be in TV. No bond or maint. Fees, lower taxes, lower water bills, less amenity fee and championship golf at lower prices.

But as OP has already pointed out, good, bad or otherwise, it's not quite the same lifestyle---in short it's not The Villages---without going into all that TV has to offer. As always, it's all about what you are looking for and what you can afford.

[redwitch]

Totally agree -- we don't live here because we can get the most/best out of a house and land but because of the lifestyle. Personally, I'd rather have the activities. A big house just means that much more to clean and a large yard means way more costs in maintaining it.

[Rango]

The 3 most important things in real estate: Location, Location, Location!

[Bogie Shooter]

:agree: All you have to do is look outside the TV bubble at homes near by to quickly see you can get much more house for the money and your cost of living is much less than it will be in TV. No bond or maint. Fees, lower taxes, lower water bills, less amenity fee and championship golf at lower prices.

But as OP has already pointed out, good, bad or otherwise, it's not quite the same lifestyle---in short it's not The Villages---without going into all that TV has to offer. As always, it's all about what you are looking for and what you can afford.

Why would the taxes be lower?

[angiefox10]

Why would the taxes be lower?

If your taxes are assessed on the value of your home, and your home is valued for less by not being in The villages, you would pay less taxes.

[jebartle]

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[jhrc4]

We moved from Del Webb, Summerfield. Probably one of the best if not the best Retirement Community nearby....but...the property values their continue to fall, The Villages as some have pointed out the choice " Lifestyle " vs. a Retirement Community where, unfortunately they do not have the age variation that The Villages has, and like most retirement communities they get very, very tired looking.

Sure you will definitely get more house for the $$, outside of the Villages, but that is as far as it goes. In the case of Del Webb, Summerfield it was promised that shops, various business were going to be present....10 ++ years later Nothing at all, and sadly the property values went rapidly down a short while after build out was completed, plus They " OWN " the roads every inch. Not sure of The Villages?? Compare what is around look at the big picture it is the Lifestyle right here, is it Perfect ? of course not but really a pretty, pretty cool place to be.

[Cisco Kid]

Boy Howdy

[justjim]

We moved from Del Webb, Summerfield. Probably one of the best if not the best Retirement Community nearby....but...the property values their continue to fall, The Villages as some have pointed out the choice " Lifestyle " vs. a Retirement Community where, unfortunately they do not have the age variation that The Villages has, and like most retirement communities they get very, very tired looking.

Sure you will definitely get more house for the $$, outside of the Villages, but that is as far as it goes. In the case of Del Webb, Summerfield it was promised that shops, various business were going to be present....10 ++ years later Nothing at all, and sadly the property values went rapidly down a short while after build out was completed, plus They " OWN " the roads every inch. Not sure of The Villages?? Compare what is around look at the big picture it is the Lifestyle right here, is it Perfect ? of course not but really a pretty, pretty cool place to be.

:mmmm: I think you hit the nail on the head regarding shopping being near. Not to mention what seniors love to do the most----EAT! The Developer of TV made shopping and restaurants an intrical part of The Villages and accessible by golf cart.

As far as age variation, TV still has younger Retirees moving in. Following build-out that will change. I think that is one of the subconscious reasons many want to see TV continue to grow.

Anyway, there is not place quite like this place---and we looked at a lot of them!

[pivo]

I have been looking over a year at the villages and as soon as my house sells I'm on my way down.
But last week I got sidetracked into looking at a house in Stonecrest and the price and amount of house was twice what I would get at the Villages.
The selling point for Stonecrest is it's only 3 miles from Spanish Springs. So unless there is somrthing I don't know about I feel Stonecrest is the best bet.
I don't know all the in's and out's that's why I'm posting this if anyone knows of a negative reason I don't know about I don't know about I would appreciate a comment
Thanks

[Barefoot]

But last week I got sidetracked into looking at a house in Stonecrest and the price and amount of house was twice what I would get at the Villages.
The selling point for Stonecrest is it's only 3 miles from Spanish Springs. So unless there is somrthing I don't know about I feel Stonecrest is the best bet.
I don't know all the in's and out's that's why I'm posting this if anyone knows of a negative reason I don't know about I don't know about I would appreciate a comment
Thanks

How about "The Villages is a golf cart community. All amenities, restaurants and movie theaters within TV are available by golf cart (including entertainment at three Town Squares)"
Or how about "The Villages offers free golf on umteen golf courses".
Or how about "The Villages offers over 100 activities daily".
Or how about .... well, you can read the sales information.

[pivo]

Barefoot- Thank you but as much as I love golf I'm unable to play golf any longer.
As far as outsider such as Stonecrest is concerned I'm under the impression I would be able to say go to Spanish Springs and shop, eat, fish whatever which would be plenty enough for me maybe partake in some owners party's , etc.
I would like to know if that's possible.
Thanks Again

[jhrc4]

I have been looking over a year at the villages and as soon as my house sells I'm on my way down.
But last week I got sidetracked into looking at a house in Stonecrest and the price and amount of house was twice what I would get at the Villages.
The selling point for Stonecrest is it's only 3 miles from Spanish Springs. So unless there is somrthing I don't know about I feel Stonecrest is the best bet.
I don't know all the in's and out's that's why I'm posting this if anyone knows of a negative reason I don't know about I don't know about I would appreciate a comment
Thanks

As I mentioned about " Retirement Communities " before you leap to Stonecrest check out their Reserve Funds and talk with the board members on there concern about the present developer. Try Youtube HOA Stonecrest, if one of there live meetings is still available you may want to re-consider.
Just as a suggestion. Good Luck a big, big decision like all of us have made.

[Bogie Shooter]

Barefoot- Thank you but as much as I love golf I'm unable to play golf any longer.
As far as outsider such as Stonecrest is concerned I'm under the impression I would be able to say go to Spanish Springs and shop, eat, fish whatever which would be plenty enough for me maybe partake in some owners party's , etc.
I would like to know if that's possible.
Thanks Again

Anybody can do that regardless where you live. As a resident I welcome you to come and spend your money that you saved on your house in Stonecrest. It will help our merchants stay in business.

[pivo]

Bogie Shooter-- Thanks for getting back and I'll buy you dinner when I get there.
My main reason for looking at the Villages was golf and from reading totv meeting you nice people . but as I no longer can play the game I love of golf I'm looking for the best buy for my money. but Im sure you won't get the friendliness and helpfulness ax in the villages.

[keithwand]

We moved from Del Webb, Summerfield. Probably one of the best if not the best Retirement Community nearby....but...the property values their continue to fall, The Villages as some have pointed out the choice " Lifestyle " vs. a Retirement Community where, unfortunately they do not have the age variation that The Villages has, and like most retirement communities they get very, very tired looking.

Sure you will definitely get more house for the $$, outside of the Villages, but that is as far as it goes. In the case of Del Webb, Summerfield it was promised that shops, various business were going to be present....10 ++ years later Nothing at all, and sadly the property values went rapidly down a short while after build out was completed, plus They " OWN " the roads every inch. Not sure of The Villages?? Compare what is around look at the big picture it is the Lifestyle right here, is it Perfect ? of course not but really a pretty, pretty cool place to be.

Same thing happened at Del Web Sun City Center near Bradonton. Golf courses closed, very few restaurants, no movie theaters etc.
No one put money into their homes like they do in TV.
We did sell there house when they passed on 2010 and the price was pretty much what they paid in 1992, $180K for 2000sf, double lot on a lake with pontoon boats.
There's always cheaper but not better.

[Bogie Shooter]

Bogie Shooter-- Thanks for getting back and I'll buy you dinner when I get there.
My main reason for looking at the Villages was golf and from reading totv meeting you nice people . but as I no longer can play the game I love of golf I'm looking for the best buy for my money. but Im sure you won't get the friendliness and helpfulness ax in the villages.

I thought I was being friendly...................what is this ax you speak of?

[Barefoot]

Barefoot- Thank you but as much as I love golf I'm unable to play golf any longer.
As far as outsider such as Stonecrest is concerned I'm under the impression I would be able to say go to Spanish Springs and shop, eat, fish whatever which would be plenty enough for me maybe partake in some owners party's , etc. I would like to know if that's possible.

Absolutely, you will be able to go to all three Town Centers in The Villages where they have free entertainment every night. You will be able to go to the movie theatres, eat in the restaurants and shop. All are open to the public. You will be welcomed at the TOTV monthly meeting at Crispers Restaurant.

We chose The Villages because we like the idea of being able to go everywhere in a golf cart. Also because they allow large dogs. We didn't golf for the first five years, but we like knowing we have that option. We mostly hang out with friends rather than using the amenities. But it's wonderful to have the option of visiting (almost) limitless Rec Centers and pools, and attending activities when we choose to do so.

I think Stonecrest is probably also a great place to live.

[jhrc4]

This actually is my 3rd post in trying to help this person and it will be my last. I went ahead and " Googled " SHO Meeting, it was recorded May, 2013 8:43 long, my comments touch the very message that I gave to you. No need to take my word for it, Watch, Listen, very carefully to the Home owners Board Meeting.

Once the developer turns over the responsibility of the community to the HOA, the residents are on the hook for everything....Everything!! So having a solid reserve fund is EXTREMELY important, along with a multitude of other long range plans.

Buyer Beware stands out loud and clear...IMO. Once Again , Good Luck

[jbdlfan]

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How about 50 yards from TV's just off Rainey Trail for $168,900. That's masonry with a real tile roof, vaulted and tray ceilings, 2 car garage, 3BR 2BA, built in 2007, no bond, no maintenance, taxes $2200 and homeowner fee of $128 a month covers irrigation, pressure washing and painting.

There is no golf course, just a club house, pool, tennis courts and putting green. That's why the Lifestyle Preview Plan is one of the biggest selling tools, because you can't put a price on lifestyle.

But....they have the absolute best pool in the area! We lived in the development for five years before moving here. We had a street-legal cart and spent many days partaking of the Villages "lifestyle." Many folks are buying and building there for that very reason. I believe home values will remain staedy and even climb there as building progresses south. JMHO.

[pivo]

Bogie Shooter Sorry type what I meant to type I'm sure I wouldn't get the friendliness and helpfulness somewhere else like I'm sure I would get at the villages.
Thank Bogie for getting back.
I have been on totv for over a year and all I hear are things.

[pivo]

Bogie Shooter Sorry type what I meant to type I'm sure I wouldn't get the friendliness and helpfulness somewhere else like I'm sure I would get at the villages.
Thank Bogie for getting back.
I have been on totv for over a year and all I hear are good things

[pivo]

JHRC4 Thanks I'll check it out

[pivo]

One last question. can you drive a golf cart from Stonecrest to Spanish Springs.

[gomoho]

Pivo - we have been in The Villages for almost 2 years. Our house is adequate, but we thought we wanted more and we were very close to making an offer in Harbour Hills. Beautiful community and more house for the money. When we looked at the options we decided we couldn't give up the feeling of community we have built here and the friends we have made. Decided it wouldn't be very enjoyable to have an awesome house unless you had friends to fill it with. And that is what you have in The Villages.

[Barefoot]

One last question. can you drive a golf cart from Stonecrest to Spanish Springs.

I suggest you do a search for the thread called:
Remember "The Wall"

[Medtrans]

New to TOTV, how do you search a thread?

[Barefoot]

New to TOTV, how do you search a thread?

Look at the top of this page. There is a "search" button.
Hit the button and type in a topic. Happy Searching!

[Medtrans]

Thank you"

[NoMoSno]

One last question. can you drive a golf cart from Stonecrest to Spanish Springs.

Yes, but only with a street legal cart, at this time.

[lynn22]

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How about 50 yards from TV's just off Rainey Trail for $168,900. That's masonry with a real tile roof, vaulted and tray ceilings, 2 car garage, 3BR 2BA, built in 2007, no bond, no maintenance, taxes $2200 and homeowner fee of $128 a month covers irrigation, pressure washing and painting.

There is no golf course, just a club house, pool, tennis courts and putting green. That's why the Lifestyle Preview Plan is one of the biggest selling tools, because you can't put a price on lifestyle.

Is this not a conjoined home or a duplex? It is referred to as a condo/townhouse in the mls listing, and is there not a second fee for the clubhouse ?

[JourneyOfLife]

I suspect most people can come up with many reasons, that were important to them, that support their personal decision to buy a home in a particular community.

[jbdlfan]

Is this not a conjoined home or a duplex? It is referred to as a condo/townhouse in the mls listing, and is there not a second fee for the clubhouse ?

I believe it's $50 for the card if I remember correctly. Workout room, pool tables, rec room and the absolutely gorgeous pool!

[2BNTV]

New to TOTV, how do you search a thread?

I found going to Google, and typing the thread name will bounce you to TOTV thread you need, better than the search function. The search function leaves a lot to be desired, for finding something.

You can also go the directory the thread was posted on and scroll down to find the thread you are looking for. If it's a really old thread, you might spend a lot of time finding it, with this method.

Good luck!!

[2BNTV]

You will get more house for your money at Stonecrest. If you are sedentary, it might be a good choice. You can visit the restaurants, movies and squares for entertainment but you won't have access to everything.

TV is made for active people who want to jump in their golfcart, and get almost anywhere in TV, (there's 90 miles of golfcart paths). It's made for people who like other people and most people like to be in the middle of the action, whatever that may be.

Only you can decide what you are looking for. Not everyone plays golf, but there are so many other activities you can enjoy. The developer keeps TV beautiful, and that means a lot to me.

Basically Stonecrest is not golfcart accessible, as the one path to TV, was closed off by the developer. At least, that's the latest I heard.

[gpirate]

How about "The Villages is a golf cart community. All amenities, restaurants and movie theaters within TV are available by golf cart (including entertainment at three Town Squares)"
Or how about "The Villages offers free golf on umteen golf courses".
Or how about "The Villages offers over 100 activities daily".
Or how about .... well, you can read the sales information.

Not necessary free when you add in CDD, amenity fees, fire fees, etc.

[2BNTV]

Not necessary free when you add in CDD, amenity fees, fire fees, etc.

Non existent, no. Amenity fees are nominal, compared to what you get for the money. IMHO

[manaboutown]

I thought this to be a real find. 7792 East County Road 466, The Villages FL - Trulia (http://www.trulia.com/property/3072648606-7792-E-County-Road-466-The-Villages-FL-32162?ecampaign=con_day_propertysearchforsale_bk&eurl=www.trulia.com%2Fproperty%2F3072648606-7792-E-County-Road-466-The-Villages-FL-32162)

[memason]

I thought this to be a real find. 7792 East County Road 466, The Villages FL - Trulia (http://www.trulia.com/property/3072648606-7792-E-County-Road-466-The-Villages-FL-32162?ecampaign=con_day_propertysearchforsale_bk&eurl=www.trulia.com%2Fproperty%2F3072648606-7792-E-County-Road-466-The-Villages-FL-32162)

This home would make you the neighbor of Gary Morse and the rest of the family. Actually, it's a good price and recently reduced from $1.2m.

[Bogie Shooter]

I believe it belongs to Mark's brother. The brother built a new home in Bridgeport at Laurel Valley.
Right Gracie?

[graciegirl]

I believe it belongs to Mark's brother. The brother built a new home in Bridgeport at Laurel Valley.
Right Gracie?


I am told he is very private.

[janmcn]

I believe it belongs to Mark's brother. The brother built a new home in Bridgeport at Laurel Valley.
Right Gracie?


Mark Morse doesn't have a brother. It is Gary Morse's brother, Richard Schwartz's, former home. He now lives in Laurel Valley.

[Barefoot]

Not necessary free when you add in CDD, amenity fees, fire fees, etc.

I thought that the home referred to in the first post was a detached condo, and subject to a monthly condo fee for maintenance of the grounds, etc. I'm probably incorrect.

Gpirate: I agree that living in TV isn't inexpensive. But I thought that once you're a resident, Executive Golf courses are free (if you walk the course). I'm probably wrong about this also. Say goodnight Bare.