View Full Version : where can we walk our dog?seems that dogs are not
david4
02-14-2014, 12:51 PM
Now seems like dogs are not allowed to walk in areas around neighborhood pools. 90percent + owners clean up. Should golfers who don't repair divots or pitch marks be barred from golfing. Let's have some common sense. Developer better put up "no dogs allowed' signs.
clekr
02-14-2014, 01:29 PM
Should golfer who don't repair divots or pitch marks - or rake sand traps - be barred from the course -- ABSOLUTELY!
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 01:53 PM
Now seems like dogs are not allowed to walk in areas around neighborhood pools. 90percent + owners clean up. Should golfers who don't repair divots or pitch marks be barred from golfing. Let's have some common sense. Developer better put up "no dogs allowed' signs.
I was here last summer, and didn't notice any odors by our postal station or pool...except from the pond behind it! (Of course, I don't live in the area that was being spoken of previously, so I can't dispute that.) I have no issue with dogs in that area, and actually love to visit with them. I DO think a lot of non-owners are being unreasonable there, and most dog owners DO clean up. Peoples pets are a fact of life, and they have to take them somewhere to relax and play, as long as the owners are being responsible. I have NEVER tripped over a dog leash, something complained about earlier also. My only issue with the dogs is owners that LET them come up on to MY lawn to do their business. It is MY lawn and I have a right to have an opinion about dog waste, once you're up there. I don't buy owners that say they can't stop them. YOU are holding the leash...STOP THEM. We just need to all be respectful of each other, and this should be a dead issue.
dmorhome
02-14-2014, 02:29 PM
well put i agree.
I was here last summer, and didn't notice any odors by our postal station or pool...except from the pond behind it! (Of course, I don't live in the area that was being spoken of previously, so I can't dispute that.) I have no issue with dogs in that area, and actually love to visit with them. I DO think a lot of non-owners are being unreasonable there, and most dog owners DO clean up. Peoples pets are a fact of life, and they have to take them somewhere to relax and play, as long as the owners are being responsible. I have NEVER tripped over a dog leash, something complained about earlier also. My only issue with the dogs is owners that LET them come up on to MY lawn to do their business. It is MY lawn and I have a right to have an opinion about dog waste, once you're up there. I don't buy owners that say they can't stop them. YOU are holding the leash...STOP THEM. We just need to all be respectful of each other, and this should be a dead issue.
ilovetv
02-14-2014, 02:35 PM
I was here last summer, and didn't notice any odors by our postal station or pool...except from the pond behind it! (Of course, I don't live in the area that was being spoken of previously, so I can't dispute that.) I have no issue with dogs in that area, and actually love to visit with them. I DO think a lot of non-owners are being unreasonable there, and most dog owners DO clean up. Peoples pets are a fact of life, and they have to take them somewhere to relax and play, as long as the owners are being responsible. I have NEVER tripped over a dog leash, something complained about earlier also. My only issue with the dogs is owners that LET them come up on to MY lawn to do their business. It is MY lawn and I have a right to have an opinion about dog waste, once you're up there. I don't buy owners that say they can't stop them. YOU are holding the leash...STOP THEM. We just need to all be respectful of each other, and this should be a dead issue.
Your statements in bold/yellow quoted above have been stated dozens of times by homeowners in other threads, and each and every time, a homeowner and even a dog lover who says that very same thing gets branded a "dog hater" and told "if you hate dogs, why did you move to a 'dog friendly' community?".
Purposely missing the point that private property is private property....
And people CAN keep their dogs off your yard, but they don't want to...apparently they fear the dog's self-esteem might be ruined. The dog rules the owner.
Most people do clean up and don't bother anyone. But there are always a few who spoil it for everyone else.
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 03:08 PM
I don't care if they DO clean up...when it's MY lawn I DON'T WANT THEM THERE. It only attracts other dogs, and the whole dilemma just perpetuates itself. You are right, I know, but I don't really care what "they" brand me. I know I am a kind, caring, respectful neighbor, and if they don't care to be the same, they can then "brand me" to be a people hater, because I will keep asking them to keep their dog off my lawn, and may have to resort to dumping my kitty litter on theirs...who knows? Nah, I wouldn't do that...it would be rude, but imagine if I did. I know...this is an old boring subject, but I just didn't have this in my old neighborhood. People walked their dogs in the street and picked up from there. I knew every dog, loved and petted them all, but NONE of them pooped on my lawn. There's some entitlement going on here that I just don't get. And quite frankly, when I was buying I never heard it advertised that this was a "dog friendly" community, like that was a big selling point. Maybe, I just overlooked that NOT imagining people wouldn't have their pets with them.
Cisco Kid
02-14-2014, 03:16 PM
:doggie:
:popcorn:
:cus:
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 03:37 PM
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened."
AGREED!! Love my kitties, and would LOVE to have a puplet...and a quinea pig...and a duck...and a platypus...and a horse...and a ZOO!!! haha....
jebartle
02-14-2014, 04:02 PM
I've had to resort to very small but very obvious signs that say "Please no pets" (and yes, I know, signs are not allowed BUT which is worse, our yard with brown spots, because our dog has to answer every pee left in our yard)...I'm always amazed when I see neighbors with their dogs, going to another neighbors yard repeatedly that does not have a dog...Why, they don't let their dogs pee in their own yard, I will never know, I guess it is an act of intitlement or just disrespect....and Yes, this subject has been posted many many times but neighbors with dogs STILL don't get the message! It's frustrating! I'm probably also know as the "ole bitty" with the signs and ocassionally I will find a neighbor half-way up our yard that obviously cannot read and has to be reminded!....BUT I'm really a nice gal EXCEPT when it comes to this!
I don't care if they DO clean up...when it's MY lawn I DON'T WANT THEM THERE. It only attracts other dogs, and the whole dilemma just perpetuates itself. You are right, I know, but I don't really care what "they" brand me. I know I am a kind, caring, respectful neighbor, and if they don't care to be the same, they can then "brand me" to be a people hater, because I will keep asking them to keep their dog off my lawn, and may have to resort to dumping my kitty litter on theirs...who knows? Nah, I wouldn't do that...it would be rude, but imagine if I did. I know...this is an old boring subject, but I just didn't have this in my old neighborhood. People walked their dogs in the street and picked up from there. I knew every dog, loved and petted them all, but NONE of them pooped on my lawn. There's some entitlement going on here that I just don't get. And quite frankly, when I was buying I never heard it advertised that this was a "dog friendly" community, like that was a big selling point. Maybe, I just overlooked that NOT imagining people wouldn't have their pets with them.
shcisamax
02-14-2014, 04:33 PM
I don't care if they DO clean up...when it's MY lawn I DON'T WANT THEM THERE. It only attracts other dogs, and the whole dilemma just perpetuates itself. .
Did you ever consider that what attracts the dogs to the lawns is the smell from the irrigation water..which is not at all different than what the dog is doing..so if you are concerned about waste on your lawn, you would be smart to turn off your sprinklers.
jebartle
02-14-2014, 04:39 PM
the dog responds to it's owner very well, when told NO!....Really, dogs are very smart, it's the owner that needs a few lessons!
Did you ever consider that what attracts the dogs to the lawns is the smell from the irrigation water..which is not at all different than what the dog is doing..so if you are concerned about waste on your lawn, you would be smart to turn off your sprinklers.
DianeM
02-14-2014, 04:51 PM
I have two dogs and they use my backyard PERIOD. They should never go on someone else's lawn.
shcisamax
02-14-2014, 04:51 PM
the dog responds to it's owner very well, when told NO!....Really, dogs are very smart, it's the owner that needs a few lessons!
I think it is time to start a thread on why people don't complain about watering their lawn with their neighbors poop. Such a tizzy everyone gets in over this dog poop thing. Really makes me laugh.
Mikeod
02-14-2014, 05:23 PM
I think it is time to start a thread on why people don't complain about watering their lawn with their neighbors poop. Such a tizzy everyone gets in over this dog poop thing. Really makes me laugh.
From the District website. You are not watering your lawn with your neighbors poop.
North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available.
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 05:27 PM
Did you ever consider that what attracts the dogs to the lawns is the smell from the irrigation water..which is not at all different than what the dog is doing..so if you are concerned about waste on your lawn, you would be smart to turn off your sprinklers.
No, I didn't...and I don't...and I won't. The lawn needs water, it doesn't need dog pee, and the owner should be smart enough to keep the dog on a shorter leash.
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 05:30 PM
I've had to resort to very small but very obvious signs that say "Please no pets" (and yes, I know, signs are not allowed BUT which is worse, our yard with brown spots, because our dog has to answer every pee left in our yard)...I'm always amazed when I see neighbors with their dogs, going to another neighbors yard repeatedly that does not have a dog...Why, they don't let their dogs pee in their own yard, I will never know, I guess it is an act of intitlement or just disrespect....and Yes, this subject has been posted many many times but neighbors with dogs STILL don't get the message! It's frustrating! I'm probably also know as the "ole bitty" with the signs and ocassionally I will find a neighbor half-way up our yard that obviously cannot read and has to be reminded!....BUT I'm really a nice gal EXCEPT when it comes to this!
I did just order a sign today... :)
gerryann
02-14-2014, 05:55 PM
I don't care if they DO clean up...when it's MY lawn I DON'T WANT THEM THERE. It only attracts other dogs, and the whole dilemma just perpetuates itself. You are right, I know, but I don't really care what "they" brand me. I know I am a kind, caring, respectful neighbor, and if they don't care to be the same, they can then "brand me" to be a people hater, because I will keep asking them to keep their dog off my lawn, and may have to resort to dumping my kitty litter on theirs...who knows? Nah, I wouldn't do that...it would be rude, but imagine if I did. I know...this is an old boring subject, but I just didn't have this in my old neighborhood. People walked their dogs in the street and picked up from there. I knew every dog, loved and petted them all, but NONE of them pooped on my lawn. There's some entitlement going on here that I just don't get. And quite frankly, when I was buying I never heard it advertised that this was a "dog friendly" community, like that was a big selling point. Maybe, I just overlooked that NOT imagining people wouldn't have their pets with them.
Whew.......all I can say is.....I'm glad I'm not your neighbor.. Seriously though.....this whole "discussion" is not worth the tizzy that this has put you in. Settle.......
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 07:11 PM
Whew.......all I can say is.....I'm glad I'm not your neighbor.. Seriously though.....this whole "discussion" is not worth the tizzy that this has put you in. Settle.......
hahahaha!!
TheVillageChicken
02-14-2014, 07:19 PM
Oh for the good old days when doogie doo turned to a pile of white chalk after a day or two in the Southern sun. I guess it was the 1950s dog diet that caused this. Hit them with the mower and poof...a puff of white powder. If you don't remember this, you didn't grow up in the South and didn't mow lawns as a kid.
gomoho
02-14-2014, 07:20 PM
From the District website. You are not watering your lawn with your neighbors poop.
North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available.
Okay, so unless your neighbor is pooping in the yard I guess that isn't an issue, but what about all the critters, wildlife and birds that are pooping in the water retention areas??? Just think this is much to do about nothing!
shcisamax
02-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Just think this is much to do about nothing!
People have far too much time on their hands and are just looking for things to aggravate themselves and complain about. Maybe they should spend their time doing something nice for others or helping those less fortunate or working to make the world a better place rather than sit around posting their complaints on a forum which isn't going to make a hoot of difference. It is a ridiculous pastime.
gpirate
02-14-2014, 07:38 PM
I think it is time to start a thread on why people don't complain about watering their lawn with their neighbors poop. Such a tizzy everyone gets in over this dog poop thing. Really makes me laugh.
And most of them could care less about cigarette butts all over the streets. Also all the smokers who ruin an evening out by pouring their smoke out for everyone to enjoy. Where are the signs and security for these law breakers.
tommy steam
02-14-2014, 07:46 PM
I was here last summer, and didn't notice any odors by our postal station or pool...except from the pond behind it! (Of course, I don't live in the area that was being spoken of previously, so I can't dispute that.) I have no issue with dogs in that area, and actually love to visit with them. I DO think a lot of non-owners are being unreasonable there, and most dog owners DO clean up. Peoples pets are a fact of life, and they have to take them somewhere to relax and play, as long as the owners are being responsible. I have NEVER tripped over a dog leash, something complained about earlier also. My only issue with the dogs is owners that LET them come up on to MY lawn to do their business. It is MY lawn and I have a right to have an opinion about dog waste, once you're up there. I don't buy owners that say they can't stop them. YOU are holding the leash...STOP THEM. We just need to all be respectful of each other, and this should be a dead issue.
I agree with you. I don't understand why they just don't put up signs at the post office to CURB YOUR DOG and please pick it up. A sign is positive reinforcement . Helps people remember what to do.
boomerbaby
02-14-2014, 08:05 PM
I do not have any pets at this time but I really dont understand why people have to walk their dogs on other peoples property. If you have a dog let him relieve him/herself on your own propertyI would never walk a dog on someone elses property. There is a man at the mailing station in duval that walks his dogs right up to the mailboxes and he gets his mail on top and 3x now we have seen his 1 dog lift his leg and urinate all over the bottom mailboxes. This is disgusting and makes me very happy that my mailbox is on top. I made a comment to him and he pretended he did not hear me. Also we have seen the bags full of waste in the trash by the mailboxes. I do not have to tell you what that smells like in august. Unfortunately the slobs ruin it for the people that do it right.
Lovey2
02-14-2014, 08:09 PM
People have far too much time on their hands and are just looking for things to aggravate themselves and complain about. Maybe they should spend their time doing something nice for others or helping those less fortunate or working to make the world a better place rather than sit around posting their complaints on a forum which isn't going to make a hoot of difference. It is a ridiculous pastime.
and, yet...here you are, too....
shcisamax
02-14-2014, 08:16 PM
and, yet...here you are, too....
Oh yes, but unlike those complaining and upset about something that will not be solved on an anonymous forum, I am not upset. I find this entire tizzy just so silly. And with that, I shall be off to enjoy the rest of this wonderful Valentine's Day.
njbchbum
02-14-2014, 08:18 PM
And most of them could care less about cigarette butts all over the streets. Also all the smokers who ruin an evening out by pouring their smoke out for everyone to enjoy. Where are the signs and security for these law breakers.
What laws are they breaking by "pouring their smoke out for everyone to enjoy"?
tommy steam
02-14-2014, 08:25 PM
I do not have any pets at this time but I really dont understand why people have to walk their dogs on other peoples property. If you have a dog let him relieve him/herself on your own propertyI would never walk a dog on someone elses property. There is a man at the mailing station in duval that walks his dogs right up to the mailboxes and he gets his mail on top and 3x now we have seen his 1 dog lift his leg and urinate all over the bottom mailboxes. This is disgusting and makes me very happy that my mailbox is on top. I made a comment to him and he pretended he did not hear me. Also we have seen the bags full of waste in the trash by the mailboxes. I do not have to tell you what that smells like in august. Unfortunately the slobs ruin it for the people that do it right.
Take a picture of him with you cell phone when the dog is lifting his leg , than tell him your sending it to the post office.
renielarson
02-14-2014, 08:29 PM
And most of them could care less about cigarette butts all over the streets. Also all the smokers who ruin an evening out by pouring their smoke out for everyone to enjoy. Where are the signs and security for these law breakers.
I can't speak for others but I smoke and do not break any laws. I smoke only where it is permitted. And, for the record, I do not, and never have, left butts on the ground. I pick them up and put them in my pocket until I find a receptacle to dispose of them in.
And if your evening is ruined by smokers, then I suggest you don't sit close to where smoking is permitted. Laws are laws and I abide by them and if you choose to sit close to me, then it's not my problem!
njbchbum
02-14-2014, 08:41 PM
I can't speak for others but I smoke and do not break any laws. I smoke only where it is permitted. And, for the record, I do not, and never have, left butts on the ground. I pick them up and put them in my pocket until I find a receptacle to dispose of them in.
And if your evening is ruined by smokers, then I suggest you don't sit close to where smoking is permitted. Laws are laws and I abide by them and if you choose to sit close to me, then it's not my problem!
brightspot01 - The same way a conscientious dog walker scoops the poop into a newspaper sleeve is a great way to protect your pants pockets from cigarette disposal...personally learned that the hard way after realizing too late the butts had been processed by the washing machine!!! :cus: Since that day I always travel with a snack size food saver bag or a snipped length of the newspaper sleeve [knotted on one end] for the purpose of saving my butts! ;)
Mikeod
02-14-2014, 08:53 PM
Okay, so unless your neighbor is pooping in the yard I guess that isn't an issue, but what about all the critters, wildlife and birds that are pooping in the water retention areas??? Just think this is much to do about nothing!
No point in the doggie discussion. Just wanted to make it clear that the irrigation water is not reclaimed from household waste water. The water is still treated, just not to the same level as potable water, but only slightly less.
rayschic
02-15-2014, 11:28 AM
Did you ever consider that what attracts the dogs to the lawns is the smell from the irrigation water..which is not at all different than what the dog is doing..so if you are concerned about waste on your lawn, you would be smart to turn off your sprinklers.
I think you should turn ON your sprinkler system. Get the offender wet. They won't be back. LOL
ditka41
02-15-2014, 12:15 PM
Keep them off of private lawns, period. Do it for the sake of the animal if not for respecting property owner's rights. You never know what may have been put on a private lawn that could be injurious or even fatal to the dog. Could happen either intentionally or by ignorance. The issue is so important that some homeowners could resort to that. Why make your dog suffer / die because you are inconsiderate? If you love them so much, keep them off other's private property, plain and simple.
RedChariot
02-15-2014, 12:49 PM
I do not have any pets at this time but I really dont understand why people have to walk their dogs on other peoples property. If you have a dog let him relieve him/herself on your own propertyI would never walk a dog on someone elses property. There is a man at the mailing station in duval that walks his dogs right up to the mailboxes and he gets his mail on top and 3x now we have seen his 1 dog lift his leg and urinate all over the bottom mailboxes. This is disgusting and makes me very happy that my mailbox is on top. I made a comment to him and he pretended he did not hear me. Also we have seen the bags full of waste in the trash by the mailboxes. I do not have to tell you what that smells like in august. Unfortunately the slobs ruin it for the people that do it right.
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
gpirate
02-15-2014, 01:19 PM
What laws are they breaking by "pouring their smoke out for everyone to enjoy"?
Their polluting the air that you and I have to breath. Of course they say breathing second hand smoke causes cancer if anyone cares about their health.
Parker
02-15-2014, 01:35 PM
To poop or not to poop. I find these poop threads endlessly entertaining.
(Don't flame me, I am aware that sometimes I have no life.)
Lovey2
02-15-2014, 01:35 PM
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
:bowdown: sounds so easy and reasonable, doesn't it??
njbchbum
02-15-2014, 02:02 PM
Their polluting the air that you and I have to breath. Of course they say breathing second hand smoke causes cancer if anyone cares about their health.
I am not aware of any law that defines exhaled tobacco smoke as a pollutant which would make same against the law. Please cite the law to which your post refers - would like to carry a copy around with me. Thanks.
Barefoot
02-15-2014, 02:17 PM
People have far too much time on their hands and are just looking for things to aggravate themselves and complain about. Maybe they should spend their time doing something nice for others or helping those less fortunate or working to make the world a better place rather than sit around posting their complaints on a forum which isn't going to make a hoot of difference. It is a ridiculous pastime.
I guess that complaining endlessly about dogs is a pleasurable pastime for some. Unfortunately there will always be a few rotten apples in the dog-owners' barrel. I doubt the rotten apples read TOTV or care a hoot about people in general.
Unfortunately the 99% of dog owners who are responsible and respectful residents, get lumped in with the bad apples. Sadly, some good people (who always pick up after their dogs) end up being afraid to even take their dogs for a pleasant walk.
Josie70
02-15-2014, 02:17 PM
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
I agree Jersey.....
gerryann
02-15-2014, 03:56 PM
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
This cracks me up. This type of comment is why these threads are worth a good laugh. Does anyone really believe that dogs pee on the mail boxes.....good grief. Show me a picture. I think some folks need to get out and get a little fresh air......Oh no wait...they can't...the air is polluted from all the smoke :laugh: Try to smile all you unhappy people...its really not worth all this stress that you are creating for yourselves.
gomoho
02-15-2014, 04:00 PM
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
I don't believe that is an accurate statement. There are thousands of dogs in The Villages and if what you expect the case to be were true this place would be a pig sty (sp?). :doggie:
ROCKETMAN
02-15-2014, 04:57 PM
I know there must be a good reason but why do people who own dogs walk their dogs everywhere but their back yard to poop or pea.
gerryann
02-15-2014, 05:50 PM
I know there must be a good reason but why do people who own dogs walk their dogs everywhere but their back yard to poop or pea.
They don't "walk" in their backyard. There dog does their "business" in the backyard. When the dog has done his "business" in the backyard.......they take a walk around the neighborhood....maybe to a mail station....maybe to a park.....wherever they want.....it's their daily walk. Sometimes the dog decides that the "business" that was deposited earlier in his own yard just wasn't enough and lo and behold...he's gotta do it again. So.....the owner has a bag...picks it up...and takes it home. Nobody WANTED the pup to make another daily deposit.....nature just called. NOBODY was harmed in this transaction.
Barefoot
02-15-2014, 06:04 PM
I believe this type of dog owner is more prevalent than any of you will admit. The idea that someone would allow their dog's excrement to go all over mailboxes that we touch is beyond my comprehension. It is possible dog owners are going to lose more and more "privileges" due to their abuse of every day considerations? PRIVATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY! I just don't know or understand why dog owners don't get it. KEEP YOUR DOG IN YOUR OWN YARD! PERIOD! Then there would be no need for more poop threads.
Dogs need exercise and have every right to be walked on the road or sidewalks.
This cracks me up. This type of comment is why these threads are worth a good laugh. Does anyone really believe that dogs pee on the mail boxes.....good grief. Show me a picture. I think some folks need to get out and get a little fresh air......Oh no wait...they can't...the air is polluted from all the smoke :laugh: Try to smile all you unhappy people...its really not worth all this stress that you are creating for yourselves.
Gerryann, dog execrement is dog poop. This poster seems to believe that dog owners are backing their dogs up to the mail boxes so the dogs can poop on the mail boxes. :ohdear: Now that's a feat I'd like to see.
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