Poa meeting

[ROCKETMAN]

Went to a poa meeting last night. Crowd of close 800 and had to use overflow room. President runs meeting like a drill instructor which is good because otherwise with that many people it would get out of control. President reported another golf cart theft that wasn't in the paper yet, was a friend of hers. Also she gets updated by sumter county sheriff and said the robberies may be linked to a cleaning service. Detecties are working on it. Open forum had rich lambrecht a supervisor answer questions about cart lane striping which was killed by a 3-3 vote but he said that a mistake in voting which i didn't quite understand might make it 4-2 for the striping. Speaker talked on golf cart insurence, bottom line check with your agent to see whats covered as far as liability especially. Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when your at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do.

[skyking]

Any discussion of the Tamarind Grove controversy?

[Madelaine Amee]

"Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when you're at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do."

Funny, but very sad to think that he is out there driving around.

Thanks for the great update.

[ROCKETMAN]

yes for the tamarind dog problem that land behind is owned by the developer and he has community watch at $30.00 an hour patroling it. What they said was you can have your dog on a leach walking through the area but not dogs running around like a dog park. That was it.

[ROCKETMAN]

It is sad because the man was serious when he asked the question and i kind of felt sorry for him because there was lots of laughter in the room when he asked the question. On a diferent matter someone asked about orange blossom restaurant but other than guting the place only the developer knows and isn't telling. Also as was reported in the paper el santiago will be rec center. The acc bought it for $325,000 with some thought of getting a restaurant to purchase it but in the fine print the sale document stipulated building or site could not be used for restaurant. Will have a 60000 sq. foot rec center.

[ROCKETMAN]

Sorry 6000 sq. foot rec center

[Madelaine Amee]

"Will have a 6,000 sq. foot rec center.

It may seem 'over the top' right now, but I recently spoke to an instructor for a very popular dance program who said she had to wait for Eisenhower to be built, so I am sure it will get the proper use when it is finished. More and more people need more and more space to do their thing!

[zcaveman]

"Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when you're at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do."

Funny, but very sad to think that he is out there driving around.

Thanks for the great update.

Maybe his question was - what do you do if you are on the cart path trail and the light turns red on the street. Do you obey the traffic light or do you check the traffic and go since you are on the golf cart trail.

I usually go - do you?

Z

[Bogie Shooter]

yes for the tamarind dog problem that land behind is owned by the developer and he has community watch at $30.00 an hour patroling it. What they said was you can have your dog on a leach walking through the area but not dogs running around like a dog park. That was it.

Villages of Lake Sumter, (VLS), when requesting services above and beyond Community Watch normal activities, pays the established Rule Rate for the Community Watch service which includes salary and overhead. There will be a billing to VLS for services.

[KittyKat]

Maybe his question was - what do you do if you are on the cart path trail and the light turns red on the street. Do you obey the traffic light or do you check the traffic and go since you are on the golf cart trail.

I usually go - do you?

Z

Are you talking about the intersection of Rio Grande & Morse Blvd north of 466, going southbound in cart? When I've driven my car by there I've often wondered what a cart is supposed to do since the trail continues straight? Since there could be carts turning left (southbound) onto Morse I would stop. You would definitely stop at the light at San Marino & Morse.

[zcaveman]

Are you talking about the intersection of Rio Grande & Morse Blvd north of 466, going southbound in cart? When I've driven my car by there I've often wondered what a cart is supposed to do since the trail continues straight? Since there could be carts turning left (southbound) onto Morse I would stop. You would definitely stop at the light at San Marino & Morse.

No. The ones that you mention, the carts are in the street with the cars. They should obey the traffic lights. I am talking about the ones at Buenos Ares and Camino Real and Buena Vista and Polo Ridge where the carts are on the multinodal trail and not on the street. Most cart drivers treat them like stop signs. Stop, make sure there is no traffic and go. These are the only two that I know of that have that situation.

Z

[angiefox10]

Went to a poa meeting last night. Crowd of close 800 and had to use overflow room. President runs meeting like a drill instructor which is good because otherwise with that many people it would get out of control. President reported another golf cart theft that wasn't in the paper yet, was a friend of hers. Also she gets updated by sumter county sheriff and said the robberies may be linked to a cleaning service. Detecties are working on it. Open forum had rich lambrecht a supervisor answer questions about cart lane striping which was killed by a 3-3 vote but he said that a mistake in voting which i didn't quite understand might make it 4-2 for the striping. Speaker talked on golf cart insurence, bottom line check with your agent to see whats covered as far as liability especially. Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when your at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do.

Thank you for posting... Good information.

[ROCKETMAN]

The part about the suspects in the robberies being related to a cleaning service was right on the mark. One of the ones arrested in the robberies worked for a cleaning service.

[graciegirl]

The part about the suspects in the robberies being related to a cleaning service was right on the mark. One of the ones arrested in the robberies worked for a cleaning service.



Great reporting kiddo.


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[Warren Kiefer]

"Will have a 6,000 sq. foot rec center.

It may seem 'over the top' right now, but I recently spoke to an instructor for a very popular dance program who said she had to wait for Eisenhower to be built, so I am sure it will get the proper use when it is finished. More and more people need more and more space to do their thing!

You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350.000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

[Advogado]

You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350.000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.
Rich Lambrecht has done a lot for this community, all on a volunteer basis-- including serving as one of the lead plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit against the Developer. He frequently speaks at POA meetings, and what he says has always made a lot of sense.

[ROCKETMAN]

All of the errors made in this purchase are making it look like they didn't even read the sale document or look at the footprint to see what the rec center size and parking would be. I was impressed with rich lambrecht for catching the part in the vote against striping. They will take it up again at the next aac meeting. He remarked he has never seen a topic that no one is against doing except the powers that rule.

[Bogie Shooter]

You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350.000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

This is an example of the inmates running the asylum.

[drcar]

yes for the tamarind dog problem that land behind is owned by the developer and he has community watch at $30.00 an hour patroling it. What they said was you can have your dog on a leach walking through the area but not dogs running around like a dog park. That was it.

FYI Community watch was in Tamarind Grove this afternoon stopping people from walking dogs on a leash.

[Bogie Shooter]

FYI Community watch was in Tamarind Grove this afternoon stopping people from walking dogs on a leash.

Yea!

[Advogado]

This is an example of the inmates running the asylum.

Since the Developer's representative cast (improperly it turns out) the deciding vote, maybe it was the Developer unloading a white elephant on the residents?

[Bogie Shooter]

[quote=Advogado;833201]Since the Developer's representative cast (improperly it turns out) the deciding vote, maybe it was the Developer unloading a white elephant on the residents?[/quote

I stand on my statement.

[bargee]

Demolish the building,pave it over and hire a couple of those high class food trucks that are all the rage in the big city to come in and serve.Problem solved.Drive in golf cart service.

[mickey100]

You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350,000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

$350,000 for a spot of land that doesn't have parking and cannot be used as a restaurant. Brilliant move by AAC, not.

[Warren Kiefer]

$350,000 for a spot of land that doesn't have parking and cannot be used as a restaurant. Brilliant move by AAC, not.

Everyone should read the POA Bulletin left in our driveways today. On page 8 is a very disturbing article. In essence the AAC paid the equalivent of $1,590,909.00 per acre for the El Santaigo 0.22 acre. There is a lot of information in this article so I suggest you read the entire Article #10 on page 5, it contains some very interesting facts.

[graciegirl]

Everyone should read the POA Bulletin left in our driveways today. On page 8 is a very disturbing article. In essence the AAC paid the equalivent of $1,590,909.00 per acre for the El Santaigo 0.22 acre. There is a lot of information in this article so I suggest you read the entire Article #10 on page 5, it contains some very interesting facts.


Correct me if I am wrong.



The folks who lead the POA sued the developer and as a result control of the area north of 466 was given over to residents.( the AAC). The AAC bought a building that was a restaurant that had sit empty for 350K from Sumter Inc. About the cost of a designer home.


There is much arguing now because some residents want it as a restaurant which is not allowed.

[missypie]

Went to a poa meeting last night. Crowd of close 800 and had to use overflow room. President runs meeting like a drill instructor which is good because otherwise with that many people it would get out of control. President reported another golf cart theft that wasn't in the paper yet, was a friend of hers. Also she gets updated by sumter county sheriff and said the robberies may be linked to a cleaning service. Detecties are working on it. Open forum had rich lambrecht a supervisor answer questions about cart lane striping which was killed by a 3-3 vote but he said that a mistake in voting which i didn't quite understand might make it 4-2 for the striping. Speaker talked on golf cart insurence, bottom line check with your agent to see whats covered as far as liability especially. Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when your at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do.



So sad that people would laugh at a question that an elderly man asked. Sometimes people say things in a different way than it was intended.

Sorry to be so incensed about this but I have much compassion and respect for the elderly.

[graciegirl]

So sad that people would laugh at a question that an elderly man asked. Sometimes people say things in a different way than it was intended.

Sorry to be so incensed about this but I have much compassion and respect for the elderly.



That is probably why we get along Missy. I AM elderly.

[missypie]

That is probably why we get along Missy. I AM elderly.

NO WAY! You know exactly what I mean!!!!! LOL!!!

[Warren Kiefer]

Correct me if I am wrong.



The folks who lead the POA sued the developer and as a result control of the area north of 466 was given over to residents.( the AAC). The AAC bought a building that was a restaurant that had sit empty for 350K from Sumter Inc. About the cost of a designer home.


There is much arguing now because some residents want it as a restaurant which is not allowed.

Not exactly but close. Actually $350,000 is more in line with premier homes. The resriction of the old El Santiago building not being used as a restaurant was part of the contract prior to the AAC making the purchase. Sadly the question of any restrictions came up several times during AAC meetings. The answer given to the board was ther are no provisions in the sales contract preventing the use of the building as a restaurant. A building inspector advised against the purchase as did Jo Weber and Rich Lambrecht. The building probably cannot be salvaged and the price paid for the site relates to a per acre cost of $1,590,909 per acre. Check out the very informed article in the recent March POA bulletin, page 8.

[rubicon]

All of the errors made in this purchase are making it look like they didn't even read the sale document or look at the footprint to see what the rec center size and parking would be. I was impressed with rich lambrecht for catching the part in the vote against striping. They will take it up again at the next aac meeting. He remarked he has never seen a topic that no one is against doing except the powers that rule.

rocketman: you have to pass it to see what's in it:pepper2:

[rayschic]

Not exactly but close. Actually $350,000 is more in line with premier homes. The resriction of the old El Santiago building not being used as a restaurant was part of the contract prior to the AAC making the purchase. Sadly the question of any restrictions came up several times during AAC meetings. The answer given to the board was ther are no provisions in the sales contract preventing the use of the building as a restaurant. A building inspector advised against the purchase as did Jo Weber and Rich Lambrecht. The building probably cannot be salvaged and the price paid for the site relates to a per acre cost of $1,590,909 per acre. Check out the very informed article in the recent March POA bulletin, page 8.

Here's a link to the POA bulletin for those that don't get it. Article is on page 8.
http://www.poa4us.org/bulletins_files/bulletin201403.pdf

[mickey100]

$1.59 million per acre. Wow. Sounds like a major screwup.

[graciegirl]

Yeah well.

[Villages PL]

So sad that people would laugh at a question that an elderly man asked. Sometimes people say things in a different way than it was intended.

Sorry to be so incensed about this but I have much compassion and respect for the elderly.

I agree. But it doesn't just happen to the elderly. When I was young (19 or 20?) I went to court to contest a speeding ticket. I was terrified to have to speak in front of so many people. When I finally got my chance to speak to the judge, he asked me why I was going X miles per hour in a Y zone. And I said, "I didn't realize I was going so fast." Well, the entire courtroom erupted in hysterical laughter and that was the end of my "case". I couldn't regain my composure to say what I really wanted to say, I was a nervous wreck.

What happened was a police car came speeding up behind me at night and stayed about a foot from my rear bumper. I thought it was some nut or a drunk so I speeded up to keep a safe distance. When I speeded up, he put on his flashing lights and gave me a ticket. To this day I never speed up when someone gets on my bumper at night.

Don't laugh: Some people just have a difficult time talking in front of a large group of people.