Home Invasion/Robbery - suggestion

[Madelaine Amee]

With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

[JB in TV]

Great ideas!

[TheVillageChicken]

I have .357 on speed dial.

[mixsonci]

With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

Love these ideas, thank you

[Madelaine Amee]

Love these ideas, thank you

I'd like to "claim" them of my own, but I can't - they came in one of those emails and these stayed in my memory, much else does not!

[Sable99]

My Mom heard about using the panic button on your key fob and mentioned it to an elderly friend that lived alone. Luckily, the friend was listening! A few days later her doorbell rang at midnight and she hit the panic button which was on her nightstand! She saw a someone dressed in black running from her house!

This didn't happen in TV but in our town of about 25,000 people!

[keithwand]

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?

[Midvale]

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?
Golf club.

[graciegirl]

Some of our villages are armed. We certainly have a lot in our village. I used to be shocked, this was entirely new to me, now I think.....hmmmmm.

[MikeV]

My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

[Madelaine Amee]

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?

You raise an interesting point! If the intruder is not a Wasp, a Hornet or a Yellow Jacket there is a very good chance that you are in the middle of a home invasion, and for this you need to take a different tactic.

First ask the intruder if he minds being sprayed with a lethal blast of Bug Spray that will probably blind him for some time - you need to ask him first because you really do not want to p..s him off at this point in the invasion, then you proceed to spray the h..l out of whoever it may be before you beat him to death with your marble rolling pin. Hopefully it's not a friendly neighbor looking for help.

Does this answer your question?

[Abster]

Much like many other fellow Villagers, I don't need my car keys or wasp spray. We each have loaded .38s and know how to use them.

[graciegirl]

Does WASP spray work on us Catholics?

[ugotme]

On me they would have to use WOP spray !!!!

:a20:

[tommy steam]

With so much talk about the robberies and thefts occurring in TV I thought this information might be useful.

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.
Great idea about the car keys. :BigApplause:

[tommy steam]

I was just thinking. I understand some of the bad guys use remotes to try to open up the garage doors. I really don't know this to be true or not but I was thinking to just unplug the motor that runs the door when I go away for a extended period.

[CFrance]

My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

Let's hope you don't wake up in the middle of the night some day and shoot yourself in the ear.

[NoMoSno]

Many (most) home invaders bring their own firearm.
I'll save the wasp spray, for the wasps...

[buggyone]

My Kimber .45 is right next to my car keys. If the car horn doesn't deter the burglar then the muzzle flash should do the trick.

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/possessing-a-gun-makes-you-less-safe-not-more-safe)

[NoMoSno]

Happened just the other day:
Mom opens fire on home invaders in Detroit to defend children - WXYZ.com (http://www.wxyz.com/news/mom-opens-fire-on-home-invaders-in-detroit-to-defend-children)

[missypie]

Oh just come in our home and try to rob us......Surprise!!!!!

[ditka41]

A well-placed bullet (or more if required) would do wonders for adjusting the attitudes and ambitions of lots of the low-life criminals. Even our local paper with its "daily dose of only sunshine news" could not ignore that story!
Recent conversations I've had indicate about half of us are very prepared to help the creeps with that "attitude adjustment" if the opportunity presents itself in our homes. "Be Prepared" is still a good motto to remember. See you at the range!

[MikeV]

Let's hope you don't wake up in the middle of the night some day and shoot yourself in the ear.

What the heck are you talking about?:22yikes:

[MikeV]

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/possessing-a-gun-makes-you-less-safe-not-more-safe)

Yeah right! What koolaid flavor do you like?

[dillywho]

I was just thinking. I understand some of the bad guys use remotes to try to open up the garage doors. I really don't know this to be true or not but I was thinking to just unplug the motor that runs the door when I go away for a extended period.

No need to unplug. The control on the wall has a lock position and the door cannot be opened until you put it back on unlock. Just don't do what we did....accidentally locked it and couldn't get back in. Thank goodness our dog sitter was home and we were able to get her key to the front door since we were in my son's car and didn't have our keys.

[Bonanza]

Keep your car keys on your bedside table. If you are at home, or in bed, when someone enters your home press the panic button on the key ring, it will alert the car and the noise "may" help to get rid of the intruder. It's got to be worth a try.

Also, keep a can of wasp spray handy in the house. Should someone attempt to get into your home you can use this spray as a deterrent. If you don't think it would work try pressing the little red button and see how far that spray goes! Better than mace.

I saw that same suggestion regarding your car's remote on Facebook a while back. The problem with it is that most bedrooms are too far from your car and if your remote does work, chances are your car is in your garage and the sound to a neighbor would be muffled.

The problem with wasp spray is that your efforts could be sabotaged and the insecticide could be used against you. Chances are, the intruder is stronger than you and faster because you've been asleep and he's ready for anything.

Go to a marine supply store and buy an air horn. If you press that button, I can pretty well promise you that in an enclosed room, no one would be able to function with that noise. It's louder than a house alarm and neighbors will definitely hear it.

Hopefully, none of us will ever need any of this stuff!

[happy employee]

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/possessing-a-gun-makes-you-less-safe-not-more-safe)

What absolute BS. Firearms can, and do, prevent many crimes. Our founding fathers considered it important enough to include the right in the Bill of Rights. I, and others, have handled and possessed firearms most of our lives without ever having one of those guns jump up and shoot someone "accidentally". I have raised 5 children in my home and each of them were taught at an early age to respect, and use, firearms.

The Liberal need to disarm the public will be the downfall of our nation.

as far as breaking into my house... bring it on!

[keithwand]

Does WASP spray work on us Catholics?

Yes but then you have to ask for forgiveness.
Golf club probably is the best method for WASPs as was suggested.
WOP spray. Good one too!
:thumbup:

[Lark7]

A defining moment for my Glock 19.

[buggyone]

Yeah right! What koolaid flavor do you like?


My preference is grape.

[DaleMN]

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

[vlm790]

I too will protect myself and my property should someone be stupid enough to enter my house wanting to hurt or steal from me. I have worked long and hard for what I have and no one will take it from me unless I want to give it to them. My persuader doesn't even require me to aim.

[NoMoSno]

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

I don't think anyone has this desire.
However things happen:

Suspected Burglar Shot in the Groin by Homeowner | WBBJTV West Tennessee's News Channel | Local News (http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Suspected-Burlgar-Shot-in-the-Groin-by-Homeowner-246256061.html)

[buggyone]

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder. :ohdear:

...also, this is a good possibility when trying to use a firearm against an intruder:

Homeowner shot with own gun during Kingsburg robbery : News (http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/kingsburg_recorder/news/homeowner-shot-with-own-gun-during-kingsburg-robbery/article_f37aa9e2-4ad6-11e2-b968-001a4bcf887a.html)

http://www.guns.com/2013/09/28/dallas-cops-shoot-kill-homeowner-shot-killed-man-breaking-house-video/

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/orting-homeowner-killed-during-burglary/ndT4d/

[eremite06]

The point of all this is anything can happen in a stressful situation. But the intruder has no idea of what awaits him and many are prepared.

I've got bear spray that marks him head to toe in orange, a .38 round and now my car keys. Thanks for the tip.

[Steve9930]

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

[MikeV]

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

[TexaninVA]

:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

Amen.

[twinklesweep]

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/possessing-a-gun-makes-you-less-safe-not-more-safe)

Happened just the other day:
Mom opens fire on home invaders in Detroit to defend children - WXYZ.com (http://www.wxyz.com/news/mom-opens-fire-on-home-invaders-in-detroit-to-defend-children)

Both these articles make valid points. Rather than responding emotionally, naming one view or the other as groundless and untrue, I am curious what would be the numbers of the first quoted article in relation to the numbers of the second one. That is, how many instances of firearm shootings and deaths for the various reasons cited in the first article (for example, accidental shootings, domestic violence, suicides, mass murders, and so forth) versus how many instances where a firearm successfully thwarted a burglar or robber. I'm not talking about law enforcement but rather ordinary citizens. I tried researching and was unsuccessful. Maybe someone who's more Internet-savvy could find this info, as it would be pretty revealing.

[twinklesweep]

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

:agree:
Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

I agree too--finally some common sense rather than non-thinking emotional reaction. However, unless I'm missing something, I fail to see any "condemnation" in the posting or, for that matter, throughout the thread.

[billethkid]

setting aside the non value added discourse of possible negative isolated incidents stories....get back to the reality of the thread.

Keep in mind the following:

If an intruder consciously makes a decision to enter a premisis KNOWING someone may be inside, what do you think they have in mind if there is an encounter?????? They are obviously stupid (considered brave by some) or they are ready to deal with the encounter....what ever that may mean.

The car key fob is a good idea unless you have one of the newer cars that sounds more like the road runner than a panic! The air horn is a good idea as well. Each however mean to be prepared for the next reaction, if they decide not to flee. Remember they came in knowing you are there!

The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!

Sounds harsh, cruel, inhumane, violent, et al.....most intruders will definitely flee, however......ANY intruder who procedes when hearing the VERY WELL KNOWN SOUND of a shotgun racking has no good intentions for your well being.

Home defense is not for anybody not prepared or trained to respond.

[buggyone]

"The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!"

So, this loaded 12 gauge shotgun is under your bed or standing in the corner of your bedroom? Hopefully, if there are grandkids who come to visit, the shotgun will be disassembled.

You are not home and a burglar enters the house. He takes your loaded shotgun.

You wake up from a deep sleep, hearing a sound, still a little cobwebbed, rack the shotgun, and accidently shoot a family member.

All very possible situations. You could be in the right all the way and still have tragic results. Who knows?

[billethkid]

:a20:"The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!"

So, this loaded 12 gauge shotgun is under your bed or standing in the corner of your bedroom? Hopefully, if there are grandkids who come to visit, the shotgun will be disassembled.

You are not home and a burglar enters the house. He takes your loaded shotgun.

You wake up from a deep sleep, hearing a sound, still a little cobwebbed, rack the shotgun, and accidently shoot a family member.

All very possible situations. You could be in the right all the way and still have tragic results. Who knows?

And your gas tank on your car could start leaking and when the furnace kicks on it could ignite the gas and burn your house down.
Or you could have a short in the electrical system that causes a surge and the next person to turn on the light draws all the voltage.
Or you could be a passenger on an airplane that makes an unscheduled STOP.

All very possible situations...... tragic results.

[buggyone]

Maybe it is just me, but I would not be "roflmao" at the possibility of a grandchild finding a loaded shotgun under the bed or the possibility of accidently shooting a family member.

'Nuffsaid on this topic. Next, please.

[billethkid]

Maybe it is just me, but I would not be "roflmao" at the possibility of a grandchild finding a loaded shotgun under the bed or the possibility of accidently shooting a family member.

'Nuffsaid on this topic. Next, please.

The point being ignored is the anecdotes presented to make a point are about as likely to happen as counter examples presented.

I agree the merry go round is gaining speed...I am off it as well!

[dmorhome]

12 gauge 00 buck they will leave faster then when they came in ,and they can pick them up outside.:crap2:

[janmcn]

With all the gun enthusiasts living in The Villages, and with over 12 home evasions and at least three golf carts stolen, how come no one has gotten a good clean shot at one of these perpetrators?

[graciegirl]

With all the gun enthusiasts living in The Villages, and with over 12 home evasions and at least three golf carts stolen, how come no one has gotten a good clean shot at one of these perpetrators?



A legion of guardian angels?

[Abster]

Possibly the gun owners are a little bit more cautious re safety/security. I keep a couple loaded guns in our home. I carry when I'm out alone. However, I am also the first to lock up the car and house, draw the blinds and turn a few lights on. When my dog barks at night I'll reach for a pistol and listen out for anything. It certainly is reassuring to know it's there and that I've trained to use it.

[Steve9930]

I've read a hundred posts on guns, to have, not to have, more trouble then they solve, on, and on, and on. Lots of people claim they will shoot someone that has entered their home. Here is something that will happen if you ever are faced with such a situation. Once you pull that trigger your life will change forever! To quote a Clint Eastwood flick:" When you kill a man you take away all they ever were and all they will ever be" Can you live with that fact the rest of your life? If you cannot live with such an act, do not buy a gun. Its far better to take steps to prevent a break in. A firearm is the very last line of defense. And yes I own a firearm and yes I conceal carry. I pray every day I will never have to use it!

[patfla06]

You have all given us a lot to think about.

I would like to add:
Keep jewelry in a safe deposit box @ the bank.
Keep your cell phone on your night table.
LOCK your bedroom door at night while you're sleeping
(1 more door to have to get through).

[Steve9930]

You have all given us a lot to think about.

I would like to add:
Keep jewelry in a safe deposit box @ the bank.
Keep your cell phone on your night table.
LOCK your bedroom door at night while you're sleeping
(1 more door to have to get through).


All very good suggestions. Vigilant all times.

[PennBF]

Almost got scammed by a well known Home Security system. I think a lot of Contractors who deal with The Villager's think we are either "brain dead or senile". This happens to have been a Dealer for the Company. Once we changed and dealt with a Corporate Rep. it was an totally different experience. :confused:

[buggyone]

Almost got scammed by a well known Home Security system. I think a lot of Contractors who deal with The Villager's think we are either "brain dead or senile". This happens to have been a Dealer for the Company. Once we changed and dealt with a Corporate Rep. it was an totally different experience. :confused:

Excellent post!

I would also wonder somewhat about the depth of a security company's background checks on their employees. These people are looking all around the interior of your house and checking on it's weak spots. If you decide not to go with that company, they still have all the information about your house.

Remember that the golf cart thief/burglar worked for a company that went into homes, too!

[graciegirl]

Excellent post!

I would also wonder somewhat about the depth of a security company's background checks on their employees. These people are looking all around the interior of your house and checking on it's weak spots. If you decide not to go with that company, they still have all the information about tour house.

Remember that the golf cart thief/burglar worked for a company that went into homes, too!



VERY good things to think about.


That serial killer in the Midwest with three letters? BTK? I can't think of his name, worked for a security company. I know that is a reach, but still.


http://www.bing.com/search?q=btk+killer+worked+for+security+company&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=btk+killer+worked+for+security+company&sc=0-13&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=df6dccaf95514f7390b55385295dca7e





Here I am aiding paranoia.

[LI SNOWBIRD]

What if the intruder is not a a WASP?

haha funny

[Alvinfisher]

What if the Wasp Spray does not work? Wasp spray can reach approximately 10 to 12 feet. If the element of surprise works, and the intruder is hit in the eyes with the spray, the intruder would have to be treated in a medical facility to terminate the effects of the wasp spray. This information comes from an article that was published in the newspaper that I used for a weekly Security presentation.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Wasp Spray is known to be a good cheap alternative to pepper spray but a Glock is much more effective if they are that close to you! Most will turn and run if they are looking at the barrel of a gun so you don't have to shot if you don't want to.

[NoMoSno]

Wonder why police officers don't use wasp spray? :shocked:

[billethkid]

Wasp Spray is known to be a good cheap alternative to pepper spray but a Glock is much more effective if they are that close to you! Most will turn and run if they are looking at the barrel of a gun so you don't have to shot if you don't want to.

If you happen to be in the house if/when an intruder enters, go to a bedroom unless you are already in it and put yourself with as much of the bed between you and the door as possible......and I might add you don't have to aim much with a shotgun. A tactical type 18 inch shot gun with 5 shells = significant deterence. Keep it loaded without one in the chamber thus having to rack the slide to put one in the chamber. It is a well known fact that sound alone will cause most intruders to flee.

And for those who always bring it up...of course we do not have children in our house and of course we know what to do with a loaded gun of any sort if there are visitors in the house and so on.

[buggyone]

If you happen to be in the house if/when an intruder enters, go to a bedroom unless you are already in it and put yourself with as much of the bed between you and the door as possible......and I might add you don't have to aim much with a shotgun. A tactical type 18 inch shot gun with 5 shells = significant deterence. Keep it loaded without one in the chamber thus having to rack the slide to put one in the chamber. It is a well known fact that sound alone will cause most intruders to flee.

And for those who always bring it up...of course we do not have children in our house and of course we know what to do with a loaded gun of any sort if there are visitors in the house and so on.

Ah yes, the infamous tactical shotgun under the bed. Once again, the burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied. The burglar enters when you are gone, finds the infamous tactical shotgun and now HE has it and YOU do not! Good move - we now have an armed burglar. :ohdear:

[billethkid]

Ah yes, the infamous tactical shotgun under the bed. Once again, the burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied. The burglar enters when you are gone, finds the infamous tactical shotgun and now HE has it and YOU do not! Good move - we now have an armed burglar. :ohdear:

makes a good story for somebody I suppose and not unexpected! I hate to ruin the story but that just is not at all how it is done.

"burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied."
to that point:
28 percent of burglaries involve people at home: good doors-windows prevent violent crime (http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/09/30/28-percent-of-burglaries-involve-people-at-home-good-doors-windows-prevent-violent-crime/)

And yes the number in TV is significantly smaller.

[JourneyOfLife]

After reading some of these posts... I fear for the helpful neighbor that might show to help due to the panic alarm.


:22yikes:

[buggyone]

makes a good story for somebody I suppose and not unexpected! I hate to ruin the story but that just is not at all how it is done.

"burglars do not seem to be coming in the homes that are occupied."
to that point:
28 percent of burglaries involve people at home: good doors-windows prevent violent crime (http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/09/30/28-percent-of-burglaries-involve-people-at-home-good-doors-windows-prevent-violent-crime/)

And yes the number in TV is significantly smaller.

Yes, very significantly smaller. I believe there was 1 reported burglary at 3am when a home was supposedly robbed when the owners were home. All the rest of the burglaries were during times when no one was home. Hence, the greater possibility of your loaded tactical shotgun being stolen. :boom:

'Nuff said:ohdear:

[billethkid]

greater possibility of your loaded tactical shotgun being stolen. :boom:

'Nuff said:ohdear:

Also not unexpected and also even more wrong and untrue than the first anecdote.

Making fun of something one does not understand does not make a point, hence must provide comfort or rationalization!

I know from experience this won't be the last word, but it is mine!

[manaboutown]

One of these might do the trick! http://www.sleepsafe.com

Although some appear light enough for a burglar to walk out with and take home I have seen some very good looking and much heavier bedside nightstands holding handy pistol safes at guns shows.

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

So many on this post suggest the solution is a loaded weapon next to their bed to use against an intruder. So many I'm sure have one. For a certified, properly trained individual, this may be indeed true. We are talking about a retirement community with single seniors, senior couples trying to live the rest of their lives in happiness and peace. Do we really want these seniors arming themselves and trying to use deadly force against an intruder? Do we really want to live with a loaded weapon next to our bed to feel safe? Do we want the intruders stealing and using these weapons? The Villages is a very affluent retirement community, and not exactly the cheapest place to live. Would it not make sense to possibly have the Districts or the developer hire some trained, possibly retired police officers to patrol assigned area, if for no other reason, to show a presence in the community? This may be all that is needed to put an end to the crimes before they balloon out of control. I've heard many suggest alarm systems and cameras. This may give you a sense of security, but from my own experience, if you are targeted and the criminal wants to break into your home, they will, and the alarm system will not do what it was intended to do. They will break in, grab, and run before authorities arrive. Criminals are great at disguise, and do not fear cameras. Hopefully these events are short lived, and all Villagers will be able to live their retirement years secure and peacefully.

[manaboutown]

Somebody just sent me a link showing how thieves can break into a garage in 6 seconds and another link on how to keep it from happening. Simple and cheap fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDw8DOblGB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSO_HTBHLFI

[Sail41]

However you plan to confront this situation, wheather you are home or not, Make a PLAN, discuss it between yourselves and practice it monthly. If you are familiar with your plan, should something happen, you at least have a plan and can implement it.

[Carl in Tampa]

Wonder why police officers don't use wasp spray? :shocked:

Liability.

1. Federal law prohibits the use of any pesticide "in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." You will find that warning on the can.

2. It is poison. Although a person is unlikely to die from being sprayed, there may be state laws that could result in the person spraying the wasp spray to be charged with some level of attempted homicide.

3. Mace, and similar products, are designed, intended and approved for self defense, within the constraints of state and local laws.

:police: :police: :police:

[billethkid]

So many on this post suggest the solution is a loaded weapon next to their bed to use against an intruder. So many I'm sure have one. For a certified, properly trained individual, this may be indeed true. We are talking about a retirement community with single seniors, senior couples trying to live the rest of their lives in happiness and peace. Do we really want these seniors arming themselves and trying to use deadly force against an intruder? Do we really want to live with a loaded weapon next to our bed to feel safe?

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is that some of have been armed most of their lives for one reason or another. And they do not do any differently now that they are seniors.
Their are very many retired law enforcement individuals in TV. Very many of them carry to this day because they did most of their lives. In addition some of the law enforcement folks may have some individuals from their past they hope they never meet....hence they "carry".

So it is not as though some have just made a choice to have a weapon for what ever reason.

Others who elect to have a weapon for home defense or who elect to carry a concealed weapon.....guns draw a negative reaction from the uniformed. Most of the population knows about guns what they see in the movies and television. And in recent years guns just happen to be the choice of producers to incite and portray violence. Why can't the view of guns be just like any other magnified, sensationalizing subject encounter?

It is no different than the thought process of why folks have insurance. You buy it hoping you never have to use it. Those who choose to be prepared whether with a gun or martial arts or what ever else.....should be viewed no differently.

And by no means none of what I present is intended to change anybody's views on guns. Just appreciate and respect the others choices.....which too many will not do just because the subject is "guns".

[Steve & Deanna]

Say hello to my little friend(s)...Smith & Wesson.

[elizabeth52]

Does anyone know of an incidence of a home break in that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun? I have read of many robberies and home break-in's and wonder how many times a homeowner has been successful in stopping the crime.

This is in no way an indictment of those who choose to defend their homes in this manner. I firmly stand behind your right to do so. Just curious.

[buggyone]

Does anyone know of an incidence of a home break in that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun? I have read of many robberies and home break-in's and wonder how many times a homeowner has been successful in stopping the crime.

This is in no way an indictment of those who choose to defend their homes in this manner. I firmly stand behind your right to do so. Just curious.

Let's bring the previous post closer to us. Instead of a general "incident" anywhere in the country, make it one in The Villages that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun.

Thanks.

[elizabeth52]

Let's bring the previous post closer to us. Instead of a general "incident" anywhere in the country, make it one in The Villages that has been thwarted because of the homeowner being armed with a gun.

Thanks.

Yes, in the Villages is what I meant. Thanks for helping to clarify.

[TexaninVA]

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is that some of have been armed most of their lives for one reason or another. And they do not do any differently now that they are seniors.
Their are very many retired law enforcement individuals in TV. Very many of them carry to this day because they did most of their lives. In addition some of the law enforcement folks may have some individuals from their past they hope they never meet....hence they "carry".

So it is not as though some have just made a choice to have a weapon for what ever reason.

Others who elect to have a weapon for home defense or who elect to carry a concealed weapon.....guns draw a negative reaction from the uniformed. Most of the population knows about guns what they see in the movies and television. And in recent years guns just happen to be the choice of producers to incite and portray violence. Why can't the view of guns be just like any other magnified, sensationalizing subject encounter?

It is no different than the thought process of why folks have insurance. You buy it hoping you never have to use it. Those who choose to be prepared whether with a gun or martial arts or what ever else.....should be viewed no differently.

And by no means none of what I present is intended to change anybody's views on guns. Just appreciate and respect the others choices.....which too many will not do just because the subject is "guns".

Excellent post ... not much else to say after you've said it so well.

[Bonanza]

I agree too--finally some common sense rather than non-thinking emotional reaction. However, unless I'm missing something, I fail to see any "condemnation" in the posting or, for that matter, throughout the thread.

Condemnation?" Sorry, but condemnation of what?
The bad guys? If that's what you mean, it's pretty obvious that's a given derived from all the posts.

Guns? That will always be a debatable topic.