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jebartle
02-20-2014, 04:30 PM
Third group that my husband has played golf with this week is very unhappy they moved south of 466A.....Sooooo crowded, grocery lines 10 deep, golfing is very very difficult and golf range is impossible....I hope this is just seasonal problem.

indianavette
02-20-2014, 04:35 PM
Very interested in responses as we move to Collier in April. Hopefully it is just because it is all new.

CFrance
02-20-2014, 04:38 PM
Grocery lines ten deep is a gross exaggeration. It could be that these golfers don't know how crowded it is everywhere in TV right now. Tell them to move to North Jersey and then tell us how crowded TV is! Or hop over to the Gulf Coast, or down to Fort Myers.

Geeze.

gomoho
02-20-2014, 04:51 PM
I know they are not talking about Sweet Bay 'cause there are never that many people in there. Now Publix at Colony Plaza does get very, very, very crowded, but they have
almost all lanes open and there really isn't a problem checking out. The problem is finding a parking spot and negotiating the store with ALL those shoppers and the employees trying to keep the shelves stocked. It is seasonal, but with build out seasonal may be the new normal.

Bogie Shooter
02-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Maybe pick a different time to shop?

Ohiogirl
02-20-2014, 05:01 PM
Isn't there another Publix in the works on Powell Rd between 466A and 44? Can anyone confirm and does anyone know if it will be cart accessible?

bike42
02-20-2014, 05:14 PM
Isn't there another Publix in the works on Powell Rd between 466A and 44? Can anyone confirm and does anyone know if it will be cart accessible?

Yes and yes. Plans for the Publix and adjacent stores were shown in a previous post. It's just west of Brownwood/Paddock Square town center. Golf cart accessible. Site work is underway so it should be open in time for next year's snowbirds.

Jayhawk
02-20-2014, 05:18 PM
We are South of 466A and it it AWESOME !!!!!!

Sure there are crowds, some time more than others. But it is vibrant and exciting. So many new folks who love it and are inviting and friendly.

No reason to let a few extra folks cause any heartburn. I don't know about the rest of you, but we were new here once, adding to the crowds :laugh:

DianeM
02-20-2014, 05:21 PM
It's not that crowded. 10 deep at Publix is way wrong. Never ever that bad in the store. At worst 1 person ahead of you.

NotGolfer
02-20-2014, 05:23 PM
IF their complaint has to do since the 1st of the year...well folks it's the seasonal people who make things busy! I would think these folks knew when they purchased that this community was going to be 100k or better at build-out! Where exactly did they think everyone was going to be?? Yes it is busy at Colony but that said Pinellas is now open and their Walgreens is gorgeous and large so lets go over there AND Sweet Bay is a nice store as well that seems somewhat quiet. The very south end is new so it will take time to add some infra-structure (ie. stores, gas stations etc). In another couple of years we all will be amazed with the progress!!

Again....we're all (or mostly) retired here! What exactly is the hurry? Living here is MUCH better than the alternative wouldn't you say??

Lovey2
02-20-2014, 05:42 PM
Grocery lines ten deep is a gross exaggeration. It could be that these golfers don't know how crowded it is everywhere in TV right now. Tell them to move to North Jersey and then tell us how crowded TV is! Or hop over to the Gulf Coast, or down to Fort Myers.

Geeze.

Exactly...we moved up here from Cape Coral (by Ft.Myers) and this is seasonal time there also. That was what kept our restaurants, bars, stores and golf courses open so we could enjoy them during the summer months. Yes, it was a bit of a pain, but I guess we're used to it. It's no biggie, and the story as told is somewhat exaggerated, for sure.

keithwand
02-20-2014, 05:51 PM
We love S of 466A and have quite above neighbors that moved here from other Villages N of 466A.
You want crowds; check out other popular areas like Naples.

gomoho
02-20-2014, 05:56 PM
Went to SweetBay today 'cause they had a $10 off a $40 purchase. Very disappointed in lack of selection and empty shelves. The only reason I went was because of the coupon which has now been offered two weeks in a row so they obviously are trying to drum up business. But until they can meet the selection and quality of Publix they are beating their head against a wall. When I couldn't find a box of frozen spinach I told my husband if they offered me free food I will never go back to SweetBay.

DougB
02-20-2014, 05:56 PM
Nobody goes to Publix at Colony Plaza anymore, it's too crowded there!

keithwand
02-20-2014, 06:17 PM
Doug; if no one goes why is it so busy?

CFrance
02-20-2014, 06:23 PM
[QUOTE=DougB;832705]Nobody goes to Publix at Colony Plaza anymore, it's too crowded there![/QUOTE

You're so bad.:evil6:

Cisco Kid
02-20-2014, 06:25 PM
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janmcn
02-20-2014, 06:27 PM
Went to SweetBay today 'cause they had a $10 off a $40 purchase. Very disappointed in lack of selection and empty shelves. The only reason I went was because of the coupon which has now been offered two weeks in a row so they obviously are trying to drum up business. But until they can meet the selection and quality of Publix they are beating their head against a wall. When I couldn't find a box of frozen spinach I told my husband if they offered me free food I will never go back to SweetBay.


Sweet Bay will no longer exist in a few weeks when they become Winn Dixie. Their stock is being depleted in anticipation of the change over.

CFrance
02-20-2014, 06:28 PM
Went to SweetBay today 'cause they had a $10 off a $40 purchase. Very disappointed in lack of selection and empty shelves. The only reason I went was because of the coupon which has now been offered two weeks in a row so they obviously are trying to drum up business. But until they can meet the selection and quality of Publix they are beating their head against a wall. When I couldn't find a box of frozen spinach I told my husband if they offered me free food I will never go back to SweetBay.
gomoho, the reason Sweetbay is running out of stock is because they are about to be changed over to a Winn Dixie, I think around March. (Winn Dixie bought Swetbay around October.) I believe they are running certain stock out, especially brands and items that Sweetbay stocked that Winn Dixie does not. Although you'd think they would have frozen spinach!

They didn't even have any Valentine cards, and their card shelves were nearly empty (except for leftover Christmas cards). Obviously whoever supplies Winn Dixie with cards is not the same company that stocked Sweetbay.

And BTW, Publix is honoring Sweetbay's $10 coupon.

gomoho
02-20-2014, 06:39 PM
Wow - I wish I knew that before I went to SweetBay and frustrated myself. Don't buy they are running their stock down. Say someone with boxes of chicken stuffing the meat counter. This was an issue before the takeover was ever mentioned. But thanks for the info on Publix.

Cedwards38
02-20-2014, 06:40 PM
We live south of 466A and love it. I really don't notice any difference there than anywhere else during the busy season.

CFrance
02-20-2014, 06:45 PM
Wow - I wish I knew that before I went to SweetBay and frustrated myself. Don't buy they are running their stock down. Say someone with boxes of chicken stuffing the meat counter. This was an issue before the takeover was ever mentioned. But thanks for the info on Publix.

As a matter of fact, the takeover by Winn Dixie was in place before that Sweetbay even opened. We asked why they went ahead with the signage and Sweetbay brands/stock, and they said the building and other contracts had all been negotiated and signed before the sale of Sweetbay to W-D, so they had to go ahead and open as a Sweetbay.

rubicon
02-20-2014, 06:57 PM
Well in m view it is extremely crowded and more noticeable this month (February) than in any month since I moved here in 2006.

I simply don't buy into "it has to be crowded to sustain stores, etc." Business's adjust just like people and more importantly there is an ample fulltime population here and in the surrounding area all year to sustain all the stores restaurants golf courses. I mean if I fill my pool to the top am I really better off if I try and add a half pool of water more?

But Florida is the only state without snow. So for those of you who hate long lines hire TaskRabbit.

nitehawk
02-20-2014, 07:06 PM
it is such a small price to pay for living in paradise

justjim
02-20-2014, 07:37 PM
We were among the first to move into Sanibel---south of 466A. If you want to purchase a new home in TV ---welcome to THE SOUTH!

Most but not all the residents south of 466A are recentl Retirees. Nobody I know has access to age data but just by observation the average age is younger.

As various villages build out and everything completed, fewer workman are in the village and "things" become rather calm and "normal". Additional shopping is on the horizon and will catch up with the building of homes in the near future.

geri317
02-20-2014, 08:02 PM
Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

asianthree
02-20-2014, 08:20 PM
I love it when men talk about how busy the grocery is on the golf course. ..I wonder how often they frequent shopping or was one trip the experience of 10 deep

geri317
02-20-2014, 08:36 PM
Is it really that busy south of 466A, you ask. It is really that busy all over the Villages without exception. This is the season and we take the busyness with a grain of salt. Spring will come, the crowds will go away and then we enjoy ourselves for nine months. That's the way it is!!!

villagerjack
02-20-2014, 09:06 PM
Third group that my husband has played golf with this week is very unhappy they moved south of 466A.....Sooooo crowded, grocery lines 10 deep, golfing is very very difficult and golf range is impossible....I hope this is just seasonal problem.

Gross exaggeration. I am in and out iin the suprermarket in excellent time. Ranges are busy but never more than 5-10 minute wait. We golf Exec courses 3 times a week Tee times almost always before 10AM. Then to lunch at one of the Country Clubs. Hardly wait...at least we don't notice. I am wondering if your hubby may live in a different place. Certainly he is not describing the Villages. Lived South of 466 very close to 466a for 7 years. Very happy.

villagerjack
02-20-2014, 09:07 PM
I love it when men talk about how busy the grocery is on the golf course. ..I wonder how often they frequent shopping or was one trip the experience of 10 deep

Good one.

villagerjack
02-20-2014, 09:15 PM
Well in m view it is extremely crowded and more noticeable this month (February) than in any month since I moved here in 2006.

I simply don't buy into "it has to be crowded to sustain stores, etc." Business's adjust just like people and more importantly there is an ample fulltime population here and in the surrounding area all year to sustain all the stores restaurants golf courses. I mean if I fill my pool to the top am I really better off if I try and add a half pool of water more?

But Florida is the only state without snow. So for those of you who hate long lines hire TaskRabbit.

I seriously doubt that the Villages and surrounding areas would have anywhere near the same number of restaurants if they did not have the great support during the winter months. You can golf on the Champion Ship courses in July for 5 bucks. Try that in February.

VT2TV
02-21-2014, 12:00 AM
Gross exaggeration. I am in and out iin the suprermarket in excellent time. Ranges are busy but never more than 5-10 minute wait. We golf Exec courses 3 times a week Tee times almost always before 10AM. Then to lunch at one of the Country Clubs. Hardly wait...at least we don't notice. I am wondering if your hubby may live in a different place. Certainly he is not describing the Villages. Lived South of 466 very close to 466a for 7 years. Very happy.

Wow, I have no reason not to believe you, but would like to know your strategy about golf. my group of 8 has been shut out numerous times-each person has fewer than 3 points each, and the leaders put their requests in at the first possible moment. I have had so many people tell me that their groups are getting shut out also. So what do you do differently than most of the golfers I know? I would be very interested, seriously.

As far as other comments on the threads.....

As far as crowds in Publix at Colony, we are there at least 3-4 times a week at all different times. I can think of very few times we have gone when trying to find a parking space was easy. The parking lot is frequently at near capacity in the 6-7 lanes in front of Publix, and I would consider the parking to be fairly crowded year round anymore. However, even though it is frequently crowded in the store aisles, we never have a long wait in the stores checking out. I have seen every lane full and extending into the store, but never waited more than 15-25 mins checking out.

My last comment is that not only have I (and other friends) noticed, but have also had both restaurant servers and store clerks say that they never noticed much of a "down time" for the past 2 years-and especially last year. For every snowbird that has come and gone there have been many other residents who have moved into the Villages in the past years. We recently has some construction done and our contractor (who works for the Village) told us that for some time TV was selling approx 500 houses /month. you take that times 12 months which gives you 6000 houses in a year. Figuring on 2 people per house that adds up to 12,000 new people in a year. BTW, these are his figures, not mine. And anymore, it is common for both people in a household to golf. That's going to make it pretty difficult to get a tee time . Now obviously there are all kinds of variables and guessing as far as the numbers go-the actual number of houses sold, and the num. of actual golfers. Even with the new courses that will open, that is going to make it very, very hard to get tee times.


Even with problems, I still enjoy living here and would not want to live anywhere else. But just because you love the place, you can't ignore there are problems that we all need to work to correct, i.e. respect and consideration when driving your car or golf cart, and respecting other peoples opinions. Sorry to have gone on for so long..

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 05:02 AM
We shop generally in the AM and for the most part use Walmart and Sweetbay. No problems for us. Perhaps it is the GROUPS OF EIGHT that is the problem. We golf by ourselves and meet a lit of great people. Anything you want to do ANYWHERE in GROUPS OF EIGHT can decrease your opportunities.

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 05:06 AM
They have NOT sold 6000 new homes last year. Closer to 2500-3000. We also have new Championship course and 2-3 Execs, new rec centers, Regional Rec Center and a New Town.

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 05:11 AM
Another piece of information for you to consider it is that it is the a Snowbirds who are buying a large percentage of homes in spite of the fact that they are the ones who come here only during the times when everyone else says it is crowded. Apparently,they don't feel the same way.

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 05:17 AM
If you want to golf for free 3x a week at 9AM with 8 friends, food shop in the early afternoon when everyone else has the same idea, walk up to a spot at the driving range after a month of rain and cold weather, you can probably do it somewhere, but not for $150 a month.

dotti105
02-21-2014, 05:19 AM
The Villages sold 3900 new homes last year. Being new homes, most are sputh of 466A (if not all). Plenty of inventory to keep the numbers high this year as well.

Just driving around Brownwood it is very obvious that they anticipate dramatic growth there. The Town Square buildings are beautiful and it looks like more store fronts will be available than st Sumter Landing. Until the infrastructure catches up with the growth, yes things will be busy during the high season. Taht is just a fact. The price we pay to live in such a fantastic community.

We actually think that in 4-5 yrs that the section between 466A and Brownwwod will be less crowded than the areas north. There is more more green space, Evans Prairie, Lake Deaton, ponds etc. The density will be lower. Which we like just fine. A big plus for the area south of 466 A. But seriously, there are so many great sections in TV. This place is huge and beautiful!! No complaints here!

jblum315
02-21-2014, 05:50 AM
Doug; if no one goes why is it so busy?

Geez. Keith, it's an old joke. I think originally from Groucho Max.

princesspat
02-21-2014, 07:39 AM
We live south of 466A and really haven't seen the big crowds the OP is talking about. Yes, Publix can be busy but nothing in the Villages is as busy as it is in upstate NY. Hubby actually dreads going to Target or the stores along 441, as that road seems to be bumper to bumper traffic all the time. Sams is always crowded. So to label south of 466A as too crowded doesn't seem correct to us. Besides, we're retired so a little wait in the grocery line (never 10 people) doesn't seem like a big thing! New people buying South of 466A shouldn't be scared off by this thread!

nitehawk
02-21-2014, 07:44 AM
I hope the addition of all the new homes being sold (some as rentals ) and the very crowded conditions everywhere --- does not effect the price of the rentals as i have just bought my third rental. As i will have to lower my standard of the people who i rent to

Russ_Boston
02-21-2014, 07:49 AM
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shcisamax
02-21-2014, 07:51 AM
They have NOT sold 6000 new homes last year. Closer to 2500-3000. We also have new Championship course and 2-3 Execs, new rec centers, Regional Rec Center and a New Town.

Where are you getting your numbers? I am pretty sure they are way over 3,000 a year. When we bought two years ago, I asked my closing agent how many she did a day. She gave me some number and then I asked how many closing agents they had. I figured out they were doing apx. 300 closings a week...that alone would be 3,600 a year...two years ago. For sure they are selling more than 3,600 a year. But what is the number?

If someone is about to close, when they go for their closing, they should just ask how many closings they are doing a day to their closing agent. And then how many agents are working on closings. Voila! It woudl be interesting to know.

Jayhawk
02-21-2014, 08:21 AM
3,254 new homes sold in the last 12 months. This was in yesterday's newspaper.

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 08:21 AM
Geez. Keith, it's an old joke. I think originally from Groucho Max.

YOGI BERRA "Nobody goes there anymore, it is too crowded"

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 08:25 AM
3,254 new homes sold in the last 12 months. This was in yesterday's newspaper.

Thanks..I was close...but 3254 is about half of what the OP said to make her case. Big difference.

TNLAKEPANDA
02-21-2014, 08:25 AM
Maybe pick a different time to shop?

I shop when all the old people have gone to bed like after 9PM.

villagerjack
02-21-2014, 08:34 AM
Where are you getting your numbers? I am pretty sure they are way over 3,000 a year. When we bought two years ago, I asked my closing agent how many she did a day. She gave me some number and then I asked how many closing agents they had. I figured out they were doing apx. 300 closings a week...that alone would be 3,600 a year...two years ago. For sure they are selling more than 3,600 a year. But what is the number?

If someone is about to close, when they go for their closing, they should just ask how many closings they are doing a day to their closing agent. And then how many agents are working on closings. Voila! It woudl be interesting to know.


Closing are posted in the LSL Sales Center.. Also in Brownwood and mist likely in SS but I did not go into SS.

howardandsheila
02-21-2014, 08:45 AM
The closings posted in the Sales Center also include pre-owned. Ours was listed and we bought pre-owned. So if you add pre-owned to the number from yesterdays paper, the "sales" number would be significantly higher than 3000. Statistics can be viewed various ways.
We are south of 466a and love it. Have great neighborhood with active drive way socials each month. Very friendly and nice folks. Traffic bad this year, but I'd rather be with a lot of nice people, than a few grumpy ones that are snowed in!!! (I'm in Michigan right now for a few days and getting grumpier by the snow flake)

123Cookie
02-21-2014, 08:48 AM
Nobody goes to Publix at Colony Plaza anymore, it's too crowded there!

IF nobody goes there anymore ------------inquiring minds beg an answer .......how can it be too crowded???????????????

ROCKETMAN
02-21-2014, 08:49 AM
First of all if you would shop at 9am instead of 12 pm or shop at 5pm or later, even in the busy season would find it okay. Publix has all 12 checkouts working busy times and i have never seen 10 deep and i work there. Will help when new one is built or go to sweet bay when 2 deep is a crowd. As for golf if you consider off site once in a while like today there is a coupon in the paper for twin oaks, 99 bucks a foursome and you get hot dog chips and soda. Went there last week and it is a nice course. The biggest problem here is if you don't have a priority during the busy season you don't get times and courses you want. As for practice ranges i have no clue.

skip0358
02-21-2014, 08:55 AM
First off to the poster that moved here in 2006 the population has probably grown by 40K+ since then, It's February everybody who could possibly be here is here plus guests so yea it's crowded. As for the Golf courses I can't comment as I don't play. Yes you'll wait longer at a restaurant and that's a good thing because crowds are what brings more businesses. As for the Publix in Colony yes it's very crowded and will get much worse with 2200 more homes coming to Fruitland Park area. But I go at 7AM and I'm in and out back home and unpacking in an hour. I don't see the new Publix in Brownwood taking that many people away from Colony. Sweetbay certainly hasn't had that big of an effect on Colony. If your not happy or your surprised with the crowds then all I can say is you didn't do your homework before you moved here period. So grin and bare it April is coming. JMO

graciegirl
02-21-2014, 08:58 AM
I shop when all the old people have gone to bed like after 9PM.



Ummmm. Doesn't Publix close at nine?


I think you said a bad word.:confused:

ROCKETMAN
02-21-2014, 09:00 AM
Yes they do but sweet bay is open until 10 and walmart is open forever.

Indy-Guy
02-21-2014, 09:38 AM
The Love Bugs will solve the problem. Every year when the Love Bugs come the Snow Birds are gone.

The Snow Bird is a very smart bird. It seems that the Snow Bird does not like the taste of the Love Bug so the Snow Bird leaves just before the Love Bug arrives.

I have seen this happen every year that I have lived hear.

You gotta love the Love Bug! They solve the crowding problem.

Just don't drive to fast while they are here. They will sacrifice their life to slow down automobiles.

The Love Bug doesn't seem to know the difference between north or south of 466A it goes everywhere. They even go to Stonecrest!

cquick
02-21-2014, 09:49 AM
Nobody goes to Publix at Colony Plaza anymore, it's too crowded there!

MY FAVORITE QUOTE! :a20:

cquick
02-21-2014, 09:54 AM
If you are still up and dressed and not dancing at the squares, the Publix at Colony is a WONDERFUL place to shop at 8:30pm!

but to be honest, I have never seen the checkout lines very long....they schedule the checkout and bagging personnel according to the volume of shoppers.

kittygilchrist
02-21-2014, 09:56 AM
Sweetbay is open til 11 on 466a

keithwand
02-21-2014, 10:04 AM
Geez. Keith, it's an old joke. I think originally from Groucho Max.

Did not know that. Groucho before my time. Now if the 3 Stooges had said it...

shcisamax
02-21-2014, 10:10 AM
3,254 new homes sold in the last 12 months. This was in yesterday's newspaper.

I don't know what to make of that. Either it was misquoted two years ago or they are not selling as many now as then. Why would they be building at breakneck speed if they are selling less now than two years ago? Puzzling.

justjim
02-21-2014, 11:39 AM
I don't know what to make of that. Either it was misquoted two years ago or they are not selling as many now as then. Why would they be building at breakneck speed if they are selling less now than two years ago? Puzzling.

I heard from a third party that the Developer actually has fewer general contractors, however, since they no longer build "custom homes" they can build them faster.

I don't know if that answers your question or not?

ggomba1
02-21-2014, 11:49 AM
No problem in the village of Pinellas- grocery lines at Sweetbay are nonexistent , and a great group of golfers here! Maybe the groups he has been playing with are ...

getdul981
02-21-2014, 11:52 AM
Why would they be building at breakneck speed if they are selling less now than two years ago? Puzzling.

Their contract for water hook-ups runs out at the end of 2015.

BarryRX
02-21-2014, 11:59 AM
Nobody goes to Publix at Colony Plaza anymore, it's too crowded there!

:a040::a040:

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2014, 12:02 PM
Went to SweetBay today 'cause they had a $10 off a $40 purchase. Very disappointed in lack of selection and empty shelves. The only reason I went was because of the coupon which has now been offered two weeks in a row so they obviously are trying to drum up business. But until they can meet the selection and quality of Publix they are beating their head against a wall. When I couldn't find a box of frozen spinach I told my husband if they offered me free food I will never go back to SweetBay.

Now that is a strong statement...............................and never can be a long, long time.

shcisamax
02-21-2014, 12:07 PM
Their contract for water hook-ups runs out at the end of 2015.

Now THAT is something I had not even thought about. There is always a reason for everything. How do you know about that?

rubicon
02-21-2014, 12:08 PM
I seriously doubt that the Villages and surrounding areas would have anywhere near the same number of restaurants if they did not have the great support during the winter months. You can golf on the Champion Ship courses in July for 5 bucks. Try that in February.



Hi villagerjack: Let me acknowledge that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That is my way of saying we all look at the same thing but draw very different conclusions. It is a fact that Americans can't stand ..standing in line that is why TaskRabbit has such a bustling business.

I have been here since 2006 and believe I am correct in stating that each subsequent off season has shown an increase in population. I still believe we have plenty of people living in and around TV to support businesses. As to restaurants they fold all the time mostly because of poor management.

Yes you can play late in the day for $5 in summer but the championship courses charge more per round in prime season (Oct thru May) than most off campus so in my view it is wash.

I have always been perplexed that a number of people on this forum view disagreement as disloyalty when t comes to expressing concerns regarding TV. I may not like the crowds but it does not follow that I do not like TV Some folks always make that assumption and there simply is no way to correct their thinking


Personal Best Regards

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2014, 12:09 PM
I hope the addition of all the new homes being sold (some as rentals ) and the very crowded conditions everywhere --- does not effect the price of the rentals as i have just bought my third rental. As i will have to lower my standard of the people who i rent to

What does this mean?

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2014, 12:11 PM
Where are you getting your numbers? I am pretty sure they are way over 3,000 a year. When we bought two years ago, I asked my closing agent how many she did a day. She gave me some number and then I asked how many closing agents they had. I figured out they were doing apx. 300 closings a week...that alone would be 3,600 a year...two years ago. For sure they are selling more than 3,600 a year. But what is the number?

If someone is about to close, when they go for their closing, they should just ask how many closings they are doing a day to their closing agent. And then how many agents are working on closings. Voila! It woudl be interesting to know.

300 closings a week????

Bogie Shooter
02-21-2014, 12:12 PM
3,254 new homes sold in the last 12 months. This was in yesterday's newspaper.

I believe you.
You know, you could quote God on this blog and somebody would call you a liar.

JB in TV
02-21-2014, 01:24 PM
...You know, you could quote God on this blog and somebody would call you a liar.

You have just made the post of the month! :beer3:

janmcn
02-21-2014, 02:53 PM
Their contract for water hook-ups runs out at the end of 2015.


Does this just apply to Sumter County water hook-ups, or does it also include Lake County water hook-ups, which is St John's river basin?

yabbadu
02-21-2014, 07:01 PM
:a040::a040:

Go after 6:00 Pm and you will never find it crowded...

yabbadu
02-21-2014, 07:15 PM
Third group that my husband has played golf with this week is very unhappy they moved south of 466A.....Sooooo crowded, grocery lines 10 deep, golfing is very very difficult and golf range is impossible....I hope this is just seasonal problem.
If you think this is too crowded then you should move out of Florida during Snowbird season. We are no different that any other popular spot in Florida at this time if year. Whats the rush ..Your retired!

gomoho
02-22-2014, 09:10 AM
Now that is a strong statement...............................and never can be a long, long time.

You are right Bogie - Never say Never!!!

jebartle
02-22-2014, 09:19 AM
This was only a question to comments that were made on golf course!



If you think this is too crowded then you should move out of Florida during Snowbird season. We are no different that any other popular spot in Florida at this time if year. Whats the rush ..Your retired!

VT2TV
02-24-2014, 12:19 AM
We shop generally in the AM and for the most part use Walmart and Sweetbay. No problems for us. Perhaps it is the GROUPS OF EIGHT that is the problem. We golf by ourselves and meet a lit of great people. Anything you want to do ANYWHERE in GROUPS OF EIGHT can decrease your opportunities.

Unfortunately- for various reasons, it is not always possible to do everything early in the morning. As far as the group goes, I am willing to bet that much more golfing in done in groups of 4-12+ than in pairs. We have a group of 16 that golfs every week, and have never been shut out and never had to wait very long to eat out either.


Another piece of information for you to consider it is that it is the a Snowbirds who are buying a large percentage of homes in spite of the fact that they are the ones who come here only during the times when everyone else says it is crowded. Apparently,they don't feel the same way.


What????? Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say here.


If you want to golf for free 3x a week at 9AM with 8 friends, food shop in the early afternoon when everyone else has the same idea, walk up to a spot at the driving range after a month of rain and cold weather, you can probably do it somewhere, but not for $150 a month.

I only asked you how you were able to able to golf 3 times a week, but you answered that by saying you golfed only in pairs, which I agree that would make it much easier. But again, that doesn't help the majority of golfers who golf in small to large groups. Just because it is easy for you to get a tee time for 2 still doesn't mean that it is easy for anyone else with more than 2. I still think that the parking area at Publix is crowded most of the time, and I never said anything about the driving range.

3,254 new homes sold in the last 12 months. This was in yesterday's newspaper.

Thanks..I was close...but 3254 is about half of what the OP said to make her case. Big difference.

As far as the number goes, that was information quoted to me by a contractor who is employed by the Villages. I did mention that there are always some variables. Are his numbers correct?? I don't know, but if I had to believe someone, I would go with him. There is a LOT of information reported in the Daily Sun that I either don't believe or take with a huge grain of salt. Has anyone ever heard the same numbers quoted more than once for the number of houses sold?


The thing we all need to understand is that the posts on here represent only opinions and experiences. There is not 1 single person who is the final word on anything. No one has the right to say that I am wrong unless I try to say something is fact, and they KNOW me to be wrong 100%. And by the same token, I cannot say anyone is wrong unless I am 100% sure. I did not say for fact that TV sells 6000+/- houses a year, just that I was told that. The rest of what I said has been my experiences, and I stand by what I said. I feel that the Villages are crowded, and are going to get more and more crowded. Obviously, there are some ways to minimize the crowds. But no matter what, I still love living here.

getdul981
02-24-2014, 07:18 AM
Now THAT is something I had not even thought about. There is always a reason for everything. How do you know about that?

I was told this by one of the supervisors on a construction job.

Does this just apply to Sumter County water hook-ups, or does it also include Lake County water hook-ups, which is St John's river basin?

I have no idea, but I believe it is only Sumter County, since that is when the original build out date was based on. This is prior to the purchase of the land in Lake County, Fruitland Park.

2BNTV
02-24-2014, 07:21 AM
Snowbird seasion makes for more crowding, so one must paln accordingly.

Only Gary Morse knows what is going to be built here!!!!! I am confident he has plans to build more businesses, to suppot the influx of more people.
In time, any area will be built up, to accomodate the amount of reidents, in that area.

I'm sure they were areas, that when built, didn't have all the businesses near them as it is today. In time, the businesses, that will come to a particular area will make crowding more controllable, When the snowbirds leave, things will go back to normal.

Patience, grasshopper!!! It will work itself out.

shcisamax
02-24-2014, 08:07 AM
If they are selling 3,200 plus NEW homes a year, presumably they are all in the same NEW areas where they are building which is south of 466A. That accounts for apx. 6,500 additional people yearly. I have been here two years and for sure see a difference with an additional 10,000 - 13,000 people added. If you figure this will be going on for another two or three years, that is an additional 20,000 plus people. Widening of roads is occurring and, in fact, new traffic patterns are emerging along with new golf courses and services...slowly...but the population will feel less crowed after things sort themselves and people aren't rushing down below 466A to view open houses, try new courses, see what's happening in Brownwood to try everything out in the new area. Even Eisenhower is a destination now for visitors. It isn't going to be a sleepy area but it should become less frenetic. That's my opinion..not supported by a darn thing.

Russ_Boston
02-24-2014, 10:50 AM
That's my opinion..not supported by a darn thing.


Can I use that? That's an awesome line! :)

shcisamax
02-24-2014, 12:06 PM
Can I use that? That's an awesome line! :)

Absolutely. Probably a nice little disclaimer here on TOTV.

Mikeod
02-24-2014, 12:42 PM
Does this just apply to Sumter County water hook-ups, or does it also include Lake County water hook-ups, which is St John's river basin?

Wouldn't it be the regional water authority that grants hook-ups?

graciegirl
02-24-2014, 01:52 PM
What's this about hook ups?:pray:

keithwand
02-24-2014, 02:14 PM
More STD rumors.

getdul981
02-24-2014, 05:37 PM
What's this about hook ups?:pray:

Down Girl!!!

ROCKETMAN
02-26-2014, 09:12 AM
The number of new and resales is in the paper about 4 times a week in the add with homes for sale. Last one had 5,397 between both and that number has been pretty consistent the last 2 years, up or down a few every time it's published. That means in the last 2 years on average everyday 7 days a week, about 14 homes are bought.