What do you think of the new rules.

[Talk Host]

Any thoughts on the new New Years eve celebrations rules at the two town squares.

[golfnut]

Where can we find these new rules Jan?

[Skip]

Yea! $30 per space, plus $30 per table. I'm all for spending more money on something that used to be FREE.

NOT!

Skip

[Skip]

Maybe parking meters in the town squares isn't such a far fetched idea after all. We can have the entertainment department write citations for overtime parking too. How about toll booths on Main St., the Morse Bvld. bridge and the Golf Cart bridge. $10 mandatory safety inspection on all golf carts also. A corkage fee for people who bring in their own drinks too. That'll bring in more $$$$ to the poor developer.

With such great ideas, maybe they will hire me.

Skip

[gogond]

Skip, Have you ever lived in NJ ?? Here in the most corrupt state in the country we have all kinds of hidden tax's, we call them hidden tax's, like the one's you speak of.

[Skip]

Who would want to live in NJ? They have mosquitoes there!

Skip

[jadebox]

The area around the stage will be open to all for FREE. What is being sold is where cars were parked. Last year we tried to get a space and got there at 7am on Dec 31. There was a crowd and the area was all taken. I would much rather pay $30 for a space for 8 people then get no space at all. Last year it was so bad an ambulance could not get thru to assist in an emergency. The price is low and it is not the idea to make lots of money for the developer but a way to reduce the mess as TV's grows.
I got to the box office at 8am to find a long line of people already waiting. 15 mins after the box office opened there was very little movement. We were told that if it looked like all spaces were almost gone we would be informed so we could leave. Later we were told there were no lines at SS. I decided to head over there since I was so far back in the line. Of course I got behind people going 25mph instead of 35 and hit every red light. I finally got to SS box office where there was no line AND there were still plenty of spaces left in LSL. I reserved 2 spaces and one table. I think since I did all the work I will charge my friends and go free ;D

[Skip]

I think since I did all the work I will charge my friends and go free ;D


Spoken like a true Morse family member! ;)

Skip

[jadebox]

The area around the stage will be open to all for FREE. What is being sold is where cars were parked. Last year we tried to get a space and got there at 7am on Dec 31. There was a crowd and the area was all taken. I would much rather pay $30 for a space for 8 people then get no space at all. Last year it was so bad an ambulance could not get thru to assist in an emergency. The price is low and it is not the idea to make lots of money for the developer but a way to reduce the mess as TV's grows.
I got to the box office at 8am to find a long line of people already waiting. 15 mins after the box office opened there was very little movement. We were told that if it looked like all spaces were almost gone we would be informed so we could leave. Later we were told there were no lines at SS. I decided to head over there since I was so far back in the line. Of course I got behind people going 25mph instead of 35 and hit every red light. I finally got to SS box office where there was no line AND there were still plenty of spaces left in LSL. I reserved 2 spaces and one table. I think since I did all the work I will charge my friends and go free ;D

I stand by what I said and am not a member of the family.
Hey Gary will you adopt me? ;D

[Skip]

He'll let you be a deckhand on his $27,000,000 yacht!

Skip

[Skip]

Maybe parking meters in the town squares isn't such a far fetched idea after all. We can have the entertainment department write citations for overtime parking too. How about toll booths on Main St., the Morse Bvld. bridge and the Golf Cart bridge. $10 mandatory safety inspection on all golf carts also. A corkage fee for people who bring in their own drinks too.
Skip


Got another one. Fire the gatekeepers and install coin - no, dollar-operated Resident Gates. (That's a double whammy or as the family would say "Win-Win".)

Skip

[tpaladino]

Last year was a mess. There was no room on the dance floor. Everyone set up tables everywhere. It was a free for all and everyone was very rude (very unlike Villagers). There was no order and as mentioned earlier even an ambulance could not get through. I am glad that they have come up with a plan to control last year’s chaos.

[Russ_Boston]

Skip - I'm an outsider with no valid opinion. But i do have a question: Do you live in TV? If so WHY? I would never live in a place that i :edit:about all the time!

Just my 2 cents.

[Skip]

Last year was a mess. There was no room on the dance floor. Everyone set up tables everywhere. It was a free for all and everyone was very rude (very unlike Villagers). There was no order and as mentioned earlier even an ambulance could not get through. I am glad that they have come up with a plan to control last year’s chaos.


How does charging $30-$60 solve that? Wouldn't roping off some areas do better?

Skip

[redwitch]

It does seem like they could have people make the reservations without charging them. I can see renting the tables and chairs, but not the space -- that seems a bit, um, er, greedy.

[jadebox]

How does charging $30-$60 solve that? Wouldn't roping off some areas do better?

Skip

Read my lips---the BEST seats are FREE BUT you better get there really early

[golfnut]

Seems to me if you have to pay to be on the outside where the parking spaces are then the dance floor could get even more crowded from those that don't want to pay, this might not solve any perceived problem but could make it worse (on a side note, good point russ).

[iaudit]

It's amazing. When I was in TV this past summer and fall, it seemed like the sidewalks were rolled up after 9:00 every day but yet everyone stays up on New Years eve. I think on New Year' eve day that I will play some golf, maybe pickleball and/or tennis, sit by the pool for awhile and go to bed around 10:30 or 11:00. If the dance floor is that crowded, I am not interested.

[johnleachjr]

I THINK THE NEW RULES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN MORE MONEY,,, DONT YOU GET IT THE VILLAGES ARE ALL ABOUT MONEY,,, YOURS. SPEND IT OR LEAVE IT. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU,JUST MORE MONEY..SOONER OR LATER YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE THE TRUTH, COSTS OF LIVING HERE IS ONLY GOING ONE WAY,,UP! JUST THINK SOON THERE WILL BE 30.000 MORE HOMES HERE.. ENJOY.

[tpaladino]

How does charging $30-$60 solve that? Wouldn't roping off some areas do better?

Skip

This year there will be no tables on the dance floor. Last year people set up tables for five or six people and took up space where 15 people could be dancing. This year table placement will be limited and controlled. Hopefully isles will be kept clear.

[Skip]

This year there will be no tables on the dance floor. Last year people set up tables for five or six people and took up space where 15 people could be dancing. This year table placement will be limited and controlled. Hopefully isles will be kept clear.


Ju$t a$ ea$ily done with rope$. I $ee dollar $ign$ too.

Skip

[Peggy D]

The area around the stage will be open to all for FREE. What is being sold is where cars were parked. Last year we tried to get a space and got there at 7am on Dec 31. There was a crowd and the area was all taken. I would much rather pay $30 for a space for 8 people then get no space at all. Last year it was so bad an ambulance could not get thru to assist in an emergency. The price is low and it is not the idea to make lots of money for the developer but a way to reduce the mess as TV's grows.
I got to the box office at 8am to find a long line of people already waiting. 15 mins after the box office opened there was very little movement. We were told that if it looked like all spaces were almost gone we would be informed so we could leave. Later we were told there were no lines at SS. I decided to head over there since I was so far back in the line. Of course I got behind people going 25mph instead of 35 and hit every red light. I finally got to SS box office where there was no line AND there were still plenty of spaces left in LSL. I reserved 2 spaces and one table. I think since I did all the work I will charge my friends and go free ;D


That sounds like a fair deal to me. Go for it!!

[Atlanta0744]

I have no doubt the Morse family will drain every dollar from you they can while you are still kicking. Come on people this is your community. You already pay a monthly fee and on top of that a bond and a yearly assessment. And fees on the free golf course for your cart etc,etc. There is no end because even when TV is sold out the homeowners will own nothing so who ever purchases what the Morse family has been selling off will get to charge what ever they want and make the rules, what are the options, Sell?

[Bubbalarry]

Skip, Have you ever lived in NJ ?? Here in the most corrupt state in the country we have all kinds of hidden tax's, we call them hidden tax's, like the one's you speak of.


I live in NJ and always thought they were called perks. I mean thats what the politicians called them as they pocketed them. :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

[Becky]

Could someone please help me understand about the tables? Are these vendors like they have or like card tables that people bring in for NYE? ???

And Donna Lee, why were you running between SS and LSL and the box office? What's there?

Maybe someone could just explain NYE to me as this will be the first one I will be down for and don't want to make any mistakes! ;D

Thanks!

Becky

[sblb]

No one has even mentioned that "townies" who do not live here will pay $50 for a table. Which means that many Villagers may not even get a table.
I, for one, think it is horrendous. It is setting a precedent for the future. Soon every event in the square will cost us money if we choose to "sit".
Does anyone know where this money is going to? and whom we can contact if we want to protest?
Sharon

[Skip]

No one has even mentioned that "townies" who do not live here will pay $50 for a table. Which means that many Villagers may not even get a table.
I, for one, think it is horrendous. It is setting a precedent for the future. Soon every event in the square will cost us money if we choose to "sit".
Does anyone know where this money is going to? and whom we can contact if we want to protest?
Sharon


Sharon:

I just got back from Spanish Springs and there was a group at the office protesting the "sale of space" on the squares for NYE. The Villages Entertainment Department is getting the money. You can complain to Barbara Vesco, Entertainment Director (formerly Barbara Gugino). She is recently married to Paul Vesco, the performer and band leader (Karacter Band and other names) often at Katie Belle's. Not only that, but other performers are now complaining that in order to perform at either town square or Katie Belles, they must use Paul Vesco as their talent agent and pay him a fee. Barbara is also the person that invented the $20 fee for entertainment at Katie Belles. Sounds to me like another little empire being built. Does this sound like a "conflict of interest" to you?

Skip

[ewstanley]

Hi,

I don't understand about the tables.
Like Becky, I am not familiar.
Would someone please explain NYE.

Thanks,
Liz

[redwitch]

NYE -- New Year's Eve

You can rent the space to bring your table and chairs for $30. For an additional $30, you can rent a table and 4 chairs from TV.

[golfnut]

Becky, Donna Lee is gone.

[sblb]

I think that all of us should have a letter writing or phone call campaign, from all the clubs that we belong to, to stop this madness.
This is a town, but also a community that we are already paying for all the amenities. Why are we paying on top of our amenity fees just to have the privilege of sitting in our own town square!
Sharon

[Skip]

Just spoke to my connection inside The Villages. The Entertainment Dept. got a ton of flack today over this from residents. All the space was gone by 9 AM. I also heard that if you don't rent space you can't save a chair. You must occupy your chair. Also you may NOT bring in ANY FOOD OR BEVERAGES of any kind if you don't rent a spot. You will NOT be able to buy the champagne packages offered to space renters either. You MUST stand in line at the bar huts to get a drink all night including bottled water.

So sounds like those FREE chairs are not so good of an option after all.

Skip

[Skip]

This is a town, but also a community that we are already paying for all the amenities. Why are we paying on top of our amenity fees just to have the privilege of sitting in our own town square!
Sharon


This is not a town. The squares are private property, owned by the developer. Your ammenities only go to the recreation part of your lifestyle not to entertainment or restaurants and shops.

Skip

[golfnut]

I would like to ask my question again (see second post), where are the NYE new rules posted, other than anything official all we have at this point is a lot of different opinions. I for one prefer facts.

[Skip]

Check the Daily Rag.

Skip

[golfnut]

Which daily rag?

[redwitch]

It was in The Daily Sun this morning -- front page.

[Skip]

You know two? ;D
Today's Sun page 4D.
Edict by Barbara herself.
Spin something like "at the request of our residents" (not actual quote - since that page is now at the bottom of my bird cage).

Skip.

[sblb]

I really do love living here, but when I have to deal with the politics, it makes me crazy. Can you imagine all the "seats" at the town squares being sold out by 9:00am?
I usually don't even wake up until then. I'm RETIRED for goodness sakes!
When the realtors sell the houses here, they should really let prospective owners know that the entertainment in the town square is by the goodness of the developers heart only, and it can be taken away at any time. That's what all of this says to me.
Sharon

[Skip]

Oh, I love it here too. But you're catching on, Sharon.

Sorry if I mis-led you. The seats are free to use if you stay in them. Tables and chairs require a fee of $30-$60 (for residents). If you don't rent a space (and it's too late now), you can't bring any food or beverage to the square.

If they make a lot of money doing this, then might the "no food or beverage" rule be enforced every night? Who knows?

Skip

[handieman]

Who wants to come to my BYOB NYE party?? I hired "Genie" to dance on the "free" tables
Handie :joke:

[golfnut]

Free tables cool...what's it cost for a chair?

[Autoshow]

The space rental for nye. We know it is $30.
Does any one know the size of 1 space?

[Barefoot]

Who wants to come to my BYOB NYE party??
Handie :joke:


me me me me me

[Becky]

handie, add me to the list for NYE at your place! ;) I'll bring BMOB! Belvedere is not far! Do I need to bring my own chair??? I'll bring snacks! Any other costs? Do I need my own table?? Will you have hats and noisemakers??? ;)

Becky

[redwitch]

Um, Handi -- your place here or in upper NY?

[DDoug]

A lot of complaining, just remember the friendly town will remain friendly for the right price. Everyone is nice when the money is in their pocket. You dont like the party go home.

[ewstanley]

Hi,
I realized that NYE was an acronym for New Year's Eve, just was asking about the the purchasing of tables. It is difficult to imagine because I have not been in TV on NYE. It is quite confusing the prices seem steep and process convoluted. I am an outsider so my opinion is just that of an outsider.
:dontknow:
Liz

[punkpup]

This is very distressing as the TV promotional portfolio says that entertainment on the town squares is free 365 days a year. Sales Reps make a big deal about when they give you the TV tour and Pep talk. I understand the need for crowd control and agree with Skip. If it's that crowded then volunteers could be enlisted to assist in keeping things running smoothly. Have arrangements been made to accommodate persons with disabilities? If not then the organizers are in violation of Title I of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, which took effect July 26, 1992. ??? Can you say AVARICE ??? :realmad:

If someone wants to profit from a NYE function then space should be rented and tickets should be sold for that specific party like some of the clubs of TV. A tradition which started in Boston, MA is First Night: http://www.firstnight.org/ where you purchase a $15 button which gives you access to special indoor venues but everything outside like Ice Sculptures, parade, lots of Street artists and Fireworks are totally free!

[gbronson]

Last nye was my first in the villages and I agree that something had to change, is was chaotic. I talked with people that said they could not get there cart or car home that night because people were parked 4 or 5 golf carts deep around the square. Now I know $30.00 for 8 people sounds like a lot for a poverty stricken community like tv but if spots were free people would be reserving them just to reserve in case they needed. A fee sadly helps control demand.

I will show up at the square again this year (do not have a table as I,m not yet there to get one) and I'm hoping it will be a little more organized.

Galen

[Taltarzac]

And I thought everyone in TV went to bed by 10:30pm. :joke:

[mcelheny]

Who wants to come to my BYOB NYE party?? I hired "Genie" to dance on the "free" tables
Handie :joke:


I want to come to your party! Can I bring my very pretty single 27 year old daughter?
:)

[renielarson]

Since I am still working (unlike my very lucky retired hubby), we cannot move to TV yet. We own a villa and come many times during the year...one time being the week between Christmas and New Years. Our very good friends join us for NYE then stay on renting our villa for the winter months. In the past, we would take the golf cart, packed with food and drinks, and celebrate NYE at the square (picnic style from our cart) and dance the night away. We had plans of doing that again this year although we were going to get there early in the morning and set up a table with chairs on the square. However, it sounds like we lost out renting a space and I'm disappointed :( that we weren't informed of this change ahead of time. We would have tried to reserve a spot via phone or mail had we been notified in advance. I'm sure there are other out of town homeowners in the same predicament as we are now and it would have been nice had TV mailed notices to all the homeowners, whether living locally or at a distance. We always looked forward to NYE at the square and now I'm so sad at what has been done. :'( Are there any other NYE celebrations going on at other locations in TV?

[jtdraig]

We are going to Hilton Head for New Year's Eve. Hell will freeze over before I pay anything for a table at what'ssupposedtobefree for us old retired villagers. Besides, it's crowded and who needs that? Why go somewhere where you can't move...this is THE VILLAGES and not Times Square. So, I elect not to be :edit:..and, frankly, I elect not to care. Like someone said, we are retired. We long ago gave up crowds at New Year's and have for many years had a fantastic dinner party, best wines & champagnes, with good friends..We dress for dinner with tuxedos, etc. Next morning, we all walk on the beach and have a mimosa breakfast overlooking the ocean. :joke: To each his and her own....but we enjoy a little elegance and a nice start to the New Year. ;D

[jerseygirl008]

iaudit: I agree with you. Find something else to do. But if you're upset about the "entertainment" people making rules for everybody, stand together and say your peace, peacefully. Write those letters, make those phone calls. Otherwise, control will be negated to those you push others for it. If I lived there, and I hope to some day soon, I would do as above. Dang, I'd be afraid to go to NYE at the square; sounds like a riot may break out. I'm relatively young and that ---- doesn't sound like a fun night to me at all. Hell would freeze over before I set up tables and chairs the morning of !!

iaudit ~ I live about 30 miles south of Bethlehem right on the Delaware river. It's a small world, for sure. Can't wait to come for my lifestyle preview. Any suggestions about the best time to come?? Love the board. Glad to see Donna Lee back!

[ladykathleen]

To Oshunluva,

About your statement that the Morse "whatever" should intervene for the residents. Surely you have got to be kidding (sorry about being negative to you). However, the developer is all about money, and more and more money and nobody but nobody can stop him. We have been here five years and soooooooooooo much has changed for the negative. Hopefully the Morse family will finish the development and move out.

[iaudit]

jerseygirl008

I will be in Bethlehem until December 25, going to my brother-in-law for Christmas day and then leaving that night to begin the journey to TV. Plan on being there until beginning of May. They are calling for ice and snow this weekend in Pa and NJ.

We just bought our ranch in April 07 and have been there for the summer (very hot and humid) and also the end of September, beginning of October. Much nicer weather then. Would definitely pick anytime but June through September for your preview.

We were in Saraosta last March, decided to take a ride up to see the Villages, spent the day riding around with one of the sales reps (no pressure whatsoever) and put a bid in on a resale the next day. It was accepted and made the decision for my wife and I to retire this year. I stopped working in June and she has two more days to go. Can't wait to get down there.

[opbob77]

Seems like this is THE topic of the week as it's all everyone is talking about. Leadership of various clubs are sending out mass emails, etc. I would be interested in where Skip is getting his info about the squares being owned by the developer. I ask because our government is the CDD's. There must be some lawyers out there that can shed some light on this. Was this approved at a CDD meeting? How can the developer unilaterily charge for space on a public street? It would be like me charging for space in Leesburg to watch the 4th of July parade. Of course, if Skip's info is correct then what I just said is moot. In any case, it IS all about more money...for them. I would suggest everyone just boycott the place, but it's too late for that if it's sold out. I've said this before and I'll say it again, "Pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered!" Maybe we should emulate the Boston Tea Party and dump golf balls into Lake Sumter!

[Hope2b]

Been here nine years----and still love it!!!!!!
Whoever does not like it here should not live here.

[Barefoot]

Been here nine years----and still love it!!!!!!
Whoever does not like it here should not live here.


Hope, I think we all agree TV is the best place EVER!! :bigthumbsup:

After all, that is why we're all here. ;D But .. I don't think it hurts to discuss a few things which occasionally we find absolutely wonderful, or frustrating, or just information worth exchanging. I think we've formed an amazing TOTV community and some of us have become friends. Just because we don't always think everything is perfect, that doesn't mean we should leave TV! I would hate to see this exchange of ideas and information stifled in any way. 040

[villager99]

doubt i'll attempt to go to either event but wonder if they've sold the very few handicap parking spots directly on the square.
the developer does control the cdds that own the squares so anything goes.
many of us knew that when we bought our homes but watching it play out over the past 8 years has been eye opening.

[redwitch]

I love my daughter. I don't like everything she does. I really like TV. I don't like everything the developer does or even all of the people I meet here. So, does this mean I should disown my child or leave here? Personally, I really think it is okay to like or love something and see its faults. It just means I'm making a choice to continue liking or loving no matter the bad points.

[villager99]

i know why i choose to live in tv and i do like it but i also think the developer's committee that planned nye this year may have overlooked some things and i hope most clubs and residents let their voices be heard so future years' events can be improved on.
that's how we all learn and grow.

[Barefoot]

i know why i choose to live in tv and i do like it but i also think the developer's committee that planned nye this year may have overlooked some things and i hope most clubs and residents let their voices be heard so future years' events can be improved on.
that's how we all learn and grow.

Villager99 :agree:
Just wondering .. what do you think is the best way for residents to communicate their thought and comments to the Developer? 024 Do they ever survey residents and ask for input?

Still a Newbie
Barefoot

[JohnM]

11-28-07 THE VILLAGES DAILY SUN:

"On December 31 your guests can visit Lake Sumter Landing Market Square, or Spanish Springs where there will be designated areas for everyone to bring their tables and chairs.
.
Spaces are $30 for residents, $50 for the public, and are limited to four spaces per household.
Tickets went on sale November 28 at the Del Mar drive, and Lake Sumter Landing box offices.
No vehicles will be allowed in the designated areas. Loading time will be 8am to 2pm Dec 31.

The Entertainment Department can be reached at 750-5411 for any additional information on tickets."

[JohnM]

I understand that every February the family sends out a survey to all the residents. Do they take comments to heart? If this program doesn't work, I suspect they will hear about it. This program, however, I hear is designed in part to keep folks from having to set up early in the morning for these events. I also understand that all can still attend (sans table) for free.

[Villages Kahuna]

I went to Starbucks at Lake Sumter Landing last New Year's Eve morning at 7:00 AM to pick up a Sunday New York Times. It was my first New Year's eve in TV. There were golf carts parked all the way beyond Toojay's. I had to walk three blocks to get to Starbucks!...at seven o'clock in the morning!

When I asked what the heck was going on, I was told that it was people staking out their space for the New Year's Eve celebration that night. Later I found out that if you simply went down to the square about 5:00 PM, you'd have had to set up your chairs out of hearing range of Rocky & The Rollers who were performing that night.

I think the new fee that people are kvetching about may be a means to limit the unwieldy crowds that inundate the squares that night. The fee may be a precursor for a major change next year, like the move of the Christmas Parade a couple years ago from the squares to the Polo Field. When the crowds get too big for the real estate to handle safely, some other plan is needed.

Maybe New Year's Eve in TV should be like the Presidential Innaguration Balls...organize as many parties at various locations as the traffic will bear...and that can physically be accomodated.

[Peggy D]

I love my daughter. I don't like everything she does. I really like TV. I don't like everything the developer does or even all of the people I meet here. So, does this mean I should disown my child or leave here? Personally, I really think it is okay to like or love something and see its faults. It just means I'm making a choice to continue liking or loving no matter the bad points.


Red,

Very well put. Thank you.

[octcr]

This will be my first NYE...do I have to buy a ticket for the bands? I am in walking distance to Lake Sumter...I thought we could take our fold up chairs to the square. It sounds like a need a plan "B". Fill me in...wondered when I read at 5:00 could not found a seat in hearing distance. Holly Molly!

[diskman]

:yikes:
Since I am still an outsider I may be reading all these posts on NYE from a different point of view but, as I see it.

THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH TOWN SQUARES FOR THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS.
I think I read that there are more squares under construction and if not the developers probably have a solution in their plans. I know that in our thoughts of TV being in a square several nights a week with a little dancing and mixing with fellow TVers are one of the thing my wife and I are looking forward to.
If you don't want to part with a $buck on NYE make other plans. No matter how many squares there are NYE is always insane no matter where you are.
:beer3: HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OUR FUTURE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS
Larry & Beverly

[Muncle]

Maybe good news.

Like most of you, I've rec'd several emails with various versions of the New Years eve fiasco. I forwarded a copy to a reporter on the Daily Sun, pointing out that the peasants were getting restless and a story with more detail and rationale might be beneficial to all parties. I also mentioned the common misconception regarding the roles of the CDDs and "the developer".

Shortly the gentleman got back to me with the following comment: "Thanks for your email. I’m trying to get more information, but from what I understand, they’re rescinding that and issuing refunds to those who may have “reserved” a table."

[punkpup]

Maybe good news.

Like most of you, I've rec'd several emails with various versions of the New Years eve fiasco. I forwarded a copy to a reporter on the Daily Sun, pointing out that the peasants were getting restless and a story with more detail and rationale might be beneficial to all parties. I also mentioned the common misconception regarding the roles of the CDDs and "the developer".

Shortly the gentleman got back to me with the following comment: "Thanks for your email. I'm trying to get more information, but from what I understand, they're rescinding that and issuing refunds to those who may have “reserved” a table."



Muncle, this news is quite heartening. Please keep us posted as to the official response.
Thank you

[gbronson]

If the lastest rumor is true. The next :edit:will be about losing their reserved space. Can't please everyone and never will. Does anyone really think the pitance the reserved table would bring in would matter to the developer (as filthy rich as everyone says) . New Years Eve is one of the few times the square becomes to crowded. The comment about moving it to the Polo field may have merit.

[ConeyIsBabe]

Just finished reading all 8 pages of this thread..........

Sooooooo....... how did 07 NYE turn out ??

What's going on in TV THIS NYE ? :pepper2:

[aln]

The Squares are 5-9. The Mulberry Rec center and Lake Miona Rec center will have Villages Rec department celebrations past midnight.
Other than that it's restaurants and bowling alleys and many various prices, starting at about $60 per person and rising

[F16 1UB]

Sounds like a night at a Phish Concert. Throw in a little magic in the air. C'mon it's only for one night if it goes off at all. Have fun there or elsewhere and get over it. Y'all live in the "Friendliest Town" so lets get friendlier. Hmmm Not that friendly Handiecast. We only wish we were there to share the excitement with friends.

Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR whether you're in the Squares or elsewhere.

:beer3:

[handieman]

This is the third year that I seem to read the same comments about the lack of a New Years Eve organized event in some manner. It seems that the Villages staff wishes to take a back seat in promoting anything resembling a party, for whatever reasons, I do not know. The squares are open to the public and possibly the Village Staff wishes to abandon the responsibilty. Then again January 1 is not notoriously noted for warm evenings, so maybe the parties held at the rec centers have some merit. In any event, If I were to be there, I would persue the rec center idea.
All this being said lets all make a New Years resolution to make TOTV a more user friendly forum and get out and kiss your significant other on New Years Eve be it at the square, rec center, private party, or roll over in bed and say" goodnight honey"
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Mr. and Mrs Handieman
See Ya'll January 5th weather permitting
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[graciegirl]

If I were there you all could come over and spill stuff on my carpeting.

No need to get your knickers in a hitch over something so NOT important. Who wants to be chilly in the squares anyway?

[drdodge]

It really makes sense

drd

[billethkid]

the new entertainment director had to put het two cents into it.
The squares went on till midnight...people set up where ever they wanted to set up....the dance floor was crowded but isn't that the case at all NYE parties...the squares were crowded but isn't that the case with all NYE parties.
All in all everybody had a good time. If it were put to a vote, I bet a majority would go for bringing it back the way it was.

However, the new generation of management of TV is very litigation sensative (to a fault) and very $$$ sensative (to a fault) and way too responsive to special interest/minority (not race) complaining, hence they punish the majority.

Open the squares the way Schwartz used to allow the people to celebrate. Let the weak, noodle spined management tend to their paper work (instead of the needs of the people of TV).
Too big = too bad....too new = worse because they don't know about the people and THEY DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!

Other than the chicken :cus: approach to NYE I don't have much to compalin about in TV.

Happy New Year how ever you do it.

BTK

BTK

[aln]

BTK - I'm with you 100%
I've only been here for 2 previous NYE and 2006-7 on till midnight was just fine. Pretty ho-hum with regards to anything dangerous (at SS at least).

Their main concern it seems is 'rowdyness'.
Who the heck wants to get rowdy with a bunch of senior citizens?

[SABRMnLgs]

My wife and I don't go out on New Years Eve anyway. We prefer to start the New Year the same way we ended the old year. By spending time with someone we actually care about.
That being said, I still don't understand this renting stuff. I'm not a lawyer type person that knows all the answers. How in the world can anyone or anyplace block off a public street and charge rent for it's usage?
I understand the Palosi fiasco and when they have parades and such. But to tie up public roads for a party and charge monies for a spot on that same public thoroughfare?
Isn't that against the law? Maybe I could close off Morse Ave for a few hours and charge people for a chair and a table to enjoy a sunset or something. Seems like it amounts to the same thing.
But then again ...... that's just my opinion.

:shrug:

[billethkid]

is the time still only to 9 PM?
If yes, why would anybody pay good money to have to go home before midnight?
If it is until midnight then that is the only plus for the whole fiasco AND points out TV' hypocricy for rowdiness.
So, if you don't need to sit down or have a table one can come and roam and enjoy the festivities just like any other time.

While I have strong opinions about any number of subjects there aren't many I am outright predjudiced about....except one. I am extremel annoyed by the latest round of management of TV....so many are too young to have the experience required to be the very best. Too many are totally not in tune with the needs of the residents. And lastly, it must be OK with senior management that their new managers are meeting their business objectives while glossing over the needs of the residents.

Anyway.....is the party till midnight?

How about a march on the squares? Minimum participation 20,000 residents...never mind....:evil6:

BTK

[fizzbyn]

We just moved here two weeks ago and naively planned to cruise up to LSL tonight to see what was happening. Then I read this thread :eek:
In the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Never Mind".