Bold or All caps

[Talk Host]

Bold print or all Capital letters is considered shouting in cyberese (is that a word). Please don't do it here. We don't want shouting, it hurts our aging ears. PLEASE! :bow:

[Taltarzac]

It is hard to read too. :agree:

[nhsnowbird]

Yahoo for the Administrators!

[Talk Host]

I think you should take into consideration that this is a 55+ community message board and is frequented by 55+ folks who may have a difficult time seeing smaller print. Some of those may even be elderly and they are more concerned with being able to read the message than they are that caps are a no no in cyberspace.


Ya right! ;D

[mejahu]

administrator sorry for previously using caps in subject - didn't know it was taboo as i had seen it done before. why would it be harder to read small print than caps? is this "whispering"? it is easier not shifting. saves energy. :joke:

[nanci2539]

Jan is correct. Bold or caps are considered yelling. When I was a novice and started using computers in work; I always used caps. Well, one day an IT guy came to my desk red faced and asked why I was yelling at him!

Now when I see caps in a message, I cringe!

But many folks don't know this type of cyber etiquette. So it's good that you posted this Jan!

[tony]

Here's a way to test the reading ease and comfort of all caps compared to upper and lower case.

Print a one-line sentence in all caps.

Print another in upper and lower case.

Cover the bottom half of the all caps line first with a sheet of paper. Be fair about it and try to make it as close to covering the bottom half of the letters as possible.

Have somebody read that and note the difficulty in being able to discern the words.

Then do the same with upper and lower. Reading will be easier and quicker.

Researchers have found that we read quickly and comfortably by passing our vision over the tops of letters. The tops of all caps are more difficult to discern than the tops of upper and lower. Reading all-caps lines requires we go slowly, and study.

It doesn't matter about the type size. Thats a whole other issue. Its more related to type case: If somebody has poor vision and is trying to read all-caps they will be frustrated.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/aszona/All-caps-reading.jpg

[Taltarzac]

Here's a way to test the reading ease and comfort of all caps compared to upper and lower case.

Print a one-line sentence in all caps.

Print another in upper and lower case.

Cover the bottom half of the all caps line first with a sheet of paper. Be fair about it and try to make it as close to covering the bottom half of the letters as possible.

Have somebody read that and note the difficulty in being able to discern the words.

Then do the same with upper and lower. Reading will be easier and quicker.

Researchers have found that we read quickly and comfortably by passing our vision over the tops of letters. The tops of all caps are more difficult to discern than the tops of upper and lower. Reading all-caps lines requires we go slowly, and study.

It doesn't matter about the type size. Thats a whole other issue. Its more related to type case: If somebody has poor vision and is trying to read all-caps they will be frustrated.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/aszona/All-caps-reading.jpg


I usuallly will not even read a lengthy message that is all in caps. Too hard on the eyes. :agree:

[mejahu]

That is interesting if half of the print is missing but I still think larger over all print is easier to read and I've not had good vision as long as I can remember. (People are still posting with caps in the subject line.) :cop: That is ok by me. I will only yell at friends and family if I can remember the rule. :joke:

[JohnZ]

This tip might be helpful to those finding it difficult to read text on their computer displays. There is a way to increase the size of displayed text using your internet browser. If you're using Microsoft Explorer....simply click on "View" on the menu bar and then select "Text Size" from the drop-down menu box....then click "largest". Text for most, if not all, web pages can be englarged this way. Hope this helps y'all.

[Talk Host]

I wouldn't be writing off those with poor sight and the elderly. They have computers but need to be able to see the letters to read them. I have many online friends, outside this board, who need to use bold print in order to use the computer. Some use all caps for the same reason. I would think that since you are so very concerned with getting and keeping hits on this board that you would understand this and give it more compassion than just an "ya right".


They can use larger font. Bold or all caps is shouting and we don't want it here.

[DENNIS G]

Sorry that i was using upper case when I did my posting. Bad key board, cap locks was stuck.

Dennis G

[Cliff]

How about the excuse that I did not realize that caps were shouting? I did it for emphasis and did not realize it was a no/no. Guess that shows that the people who have been in chat rooms for years are the ones who should be posting on this site. S-o-r-r-y

[REDCART]

Why change the font size when you can hold down the CTRL key and use your mouse-wheel to make the screen image larger or smaller--at least that's the way it works in Windows XP. George

[Talk Host]

:bow: :bow:

[Donna]

Isn't it terrible to get old...

http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/smileyskull.gif (http://www.millan.net)

[JohnZ]

Old? Who is old?

[jjdees]

GR, didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

[Just Susan]

Thanks to both of you, they are both great tips to pass on.

[The Great Fumar]

Donna
To heck with making the text bolder and shouting at each other , I'm having more fun trying to make your picture larger, ha ha

the (eye strained ) fumar

[kar guy]

well just slap me silly. i am the one that always caps everything. who would have known that i was yelling at all of you people. i am sorry. no more yelling from me. TAKE CARE KAR GUY

[Avista]

Regarding Font Size: I change my font size by going to VIEW on the bar, and then TEXT SIZE and making my choice.

[JohnZ]

If you could read this, you've got pretty good eyesight.

[redwitch]

If you could read this, you've got pretty good eyesight.


Shouldn't that be "If you can read this, ...."? Sadly, I have rotten eyesight but with a lot of squinting, I did manage to read it. Wonder what that means.

[chuckinca]

If you could read this, you've got pretty good eyesight.


Or 325 power readers

[EYANKOWSKI]

I ALWAYS USE CAPS SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS YELLING
BUT I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE HARD OF HEARING :beer2: :beer3:

[Talk Host]

I ALWAYS USE CAPS SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS YELLING
BUT I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE HARD OF HEARING :beer2: :beer3:


Please don't.

JLK

[EYANKOWSKI]

WHEN YOU READ SOMETHING IN CAPS DO YOU REALLY SAY TO YOURSELF THAT PERSON IS SHOUTING AT ME GIVE ME A BREAK YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING

[chuckinca]

Yep - shouting

Not PC

[Talk Host]

the so called rule.


The "so called rule" is a matter of etiquette. Just like there is etiquette on the golf course and while visiting someones home. An individual may not wish to observe the customary etiquette. That's up to them. It is then up to others to draw their own conclusions about the person who knowingly and consistently breeches etiquette, just like on the golf course. Life is made up of rules so that we may enjoy some kind of order in society.

You all now know the customary procedure here on Talk of The Villages. You may act as you wish. We all may think about those actions....as we wish.

[bsliny]

I give UP No more using caps But i still think its childish

[kregski]

33 replys about caps? cant we all just get along? GEEZ...

[bsliny]

Very well said

[KathieI]

I agree with Kregski, all these posts because of caps??? Nonsense!
What about the poor folks who have to "hunt and peck" in typing and don't want to be bothered doing upper and lower case??? I really don't believe that it is a big deal.
That's my 2cents.

[SteveFromNY]

I think there are times when it is appropriate to raise one's voice, and I'd prefer to be allowed to make that choice myself when the time comes.

I think it's good to let people know that it is considered shouting when caps are used so they understand proper etiquette, but somewhat inappropriate to tell folks they shouldn't use them. It isn't even like it really hurts your ears, but merely provides a strong emphasis.

I will reserve the right to raise my voice when I think it appropriate.

[Talk Host]

I will reserve the right to raise my voice when I think it appropriate.





I think that you and everybody else should.

[jtdraig]

Amazing that people who use forums don't know that using upper-case is considered bad form, shouting, ill-mannered, etc. I started using email in the mid-1980's when our Company introduced it as a form of communication and even then using upper-case to communicate was considered boorish, rude, and inconsiderate...and said more about the person sending it. As time passed, more than few careers were hurt and people got the idea. Sorry for the perhaps pompous history lesson but in today's rapid paced environment it's important to know how to communicate; how be effective in communication; and what not to do. Excuse me, I think I have a tee time now... ;D

[bsliny]

WoW i wish we could all be as perfect as you

[Irish Rover]

jtdraig - just for the record, email is used as an expedient when you communicating informally. Upper case, lower case or mixed cases are acceptable on the internet. Please note all the abbreviations used in posts (e.g.TV). For a fact, truly boorish people can find fault with anything when they nothing but time on their hands. Hope your caddying job goes well.

[SteveFromNY]

Bold print or all Capital letters is considered shouting in cyberese (is that a word). Please don't do it here. We don't want shouting, it hurts our aging ears. PLEASE! :bow:


Hey Talk Host!!! Was your use of bold in your plea intentional? Kind of funny actually.

[Peggy D]

I think there are times when it is appropriate to raise one's voice, and I'd prefer to be allowed to make that choice myself when the time comes.

I think it's good to let people know that it is considered shouting when caps are used so they understand proper etiquette, but somewhat inappropriate to tell folks they shouldn't use them. It isn't even like it really hurts your ears, but merely provides a strong emphasis.

I will reserve the right to raise my voice when I think it appropriate.

Amen!!!

[Hope2b]

This is the silliest argument so far on TOTV BUT it is rude and crude to use Bold unless you are yelling---so there ;D